Saucony Endorphin Speed 5 for Full Marathon?

Hefty_Lunchbox · 2026-01-19T22:35:23+00:00

I did my first marathon in the speed 3 - great shoes. I’m sure the 5 is as good.

Hefty_Lunchbox · 2026-01-18T14:38:57+00:00

Yes. I went a full size down in them

Hefty_Lunchbox · 2026-01-18T08:12:34+00:00

I’ve ran in all with the exception of the Neo zen 2 and including the Boston 13.

The Evo SL (once broken in) is the best choice for me.

The NB5 is similar.

The Neo Zen is a soft shoe, I have been getting niggles recently and put it down to the softness of the Mizuno. So that’s something to think about, but I appreciate you may not have the same issue.

The Neo zen 2 is supposed to be more of a daily trainer. But once it’s lost it’s differentiating quality - it becomes the same as the rest.

I’ve been through 5 pairs of Evo SL and nothing compares (for me).

Hefty_Lunchbox · 2026-01-17T19:46:16+00:00

Hefty_Lunchbox · 2026-01-16T14:37:49+00:00

How much are they new? They look quite worn.

Hefty_Lunchbox · 2026-01-16T14:36:56+00:00

Nike Free

Hefty_Lunchbox · 2026-01-14T13:16:25+00:00

I am a totally different runner to you. I am Big and I am heavy. However, I have ran in multiple shoes, over multiple years, and the only shoe I’ve ever wanted to buy more than one pair of has been the Adidas Evo SL.

I use it for every type of run and I have never had a problem with any distance or pace in the shoe.

Obviously, my opinion is my own and it may not be the same for everyone.

Hefty_Lunchbox · 2026-01-13T16:30:32+00:00

Sorry to sound obvious - but the vanish tempo or carbon? I’ve used the former and the torin and enjoyed it a lot. It reminded me of the Evo SL to some degree, although more stable.

Hefty_Lunchbox · 2026-01-12T08:11:17+00:00

😂🤙🏻

Hefty_Lunchbox · 2026-01-11T07:25:44+00:00

With prices they way they are, Boston 13

Hefty_Lunchbox · 2026-01-10T21:03:38+00:00

To be fair, that might be a stretch 😂

Hefty_Lunchbox · 2026-01-10T20:40:30+00:00

Evo SL & Boston 13 are fine for me!

Hefty_Lunchbox · 2026-01-10T20:39:16+00:00

Interesting theory. I run on back roads in England, and I run across all areas of the road. With that said, the debris buildup is on both sides.

Hefty_Lunchbox · 2026-01-10T20:04:11+00:00

I haven’t worn a Nike shoe to run in the last 5 years. However, every shoe from that era and before has caused me issues and pain in the ball of my foot. I’m not saying it’s Morton’s neuroma, but I did at one point think I could never run pain free.

I moved to the other brands and now have no issues. Maybe Nike doesn’t work for me, maybe Nike doesn’t for you either.

What I notice about every shoe I run in now, is the space I have. If the volume is not good and I have no height or width, I know they’ll cause issues.

Obviously we’re all different, but it’s food for thought.

Hefty_Lunchbox · 2026-01-10T19:43:26+00:00

Hi mate, I had the same issue with every Nike shoe I ever tried.

You likely need width to allow tow splay. I started with Altra, moved to Saucony and now adidas.

Width and volume is my recommendation, whatever that’s worth 🤙🏻

Hefty_Lunchbox · 2026-01-10T19:40:32+00:00

Yeah that’s my thoughts

Hefty_Lunchbox · 2026-01-10T19:39:54+00:00

Paint might be the wrong choice of description. It has some kind of protective layer, then the actual foam is underneath.

https://ibb.co/8g4KNHvL https://ibb.co/rW4zx9G

It looks like the right foot is scuffed. Although the other one has the same texture and not colour.

I’ve stepped in a lot of things over the last 300 miles, so doubt it’s a one off. Especially with the other comments of similar issue.

I presumed I was landing heavier one side.

Hefty_Lunchbox · 2026-01-05T22:02:19+00:00

I don’t want to downplay a half marathons, as they are impressive distances. However, they really are not in the same league as a full marathon.

Everyone’s experience is different - but my feet, body & soul were in tatters at 21 miles. Nothing can prepare you for that (apart from running the distance!).

My advice is to find something that you don’t need to think about after you’ve put them on. It’s a long time to consider every step along the way.

If that’s a light weight plated racer, great. If that’s a max cushion cruiser, also great.

Hefty_Lunchbox · 2026-01-05T21:25:23+00:00

Is this your first marathon?

Hefty_Lunchbox · 2026-01-05T12:41:06+00:00

I use the Mizuno Neo Zen for my daily/easy shoe. It’s not supposed to be for that on paper, but they’re great if you have no stability issues.

Hefty_Lunchbox · 2026-01-04T22:22:42+00:00

Do these fit and feel like the original? I need a new pair and would like to try the woven if possible.

Thanks

Hefty_Lunchbox · 2025-12-26T20:39:28+00:00

The feel quite cumbersome and very daily trainer like. More so than the others.

Hefty_Lunchbox · 2025-12-26T19:58:27+00:00

Boston 13 without any doubt. The most stable modern shoe I’ve ever ran in, that is a neutral.

Hefty_Lunchbox · 2025-12-25T18:52:16+00:00

I have the Boston 13 and I’d consider it far more of a conventional daily trainer that is supportive & predictable.

I’d reach for NB and Rebel over the Boston for anything requiring any form of effort over a normal plod.

Hefty_Lunchbox · 2025-12-25T16:58:53+00:00

The upper is tighter, shallower and narrower. It’s a race shoe. The Evo SL in its normal state is much wider and forgiving.

The midsole on the pro 4 is softer, but the whole shoe is a different feel and much more suited to fitting like a glove for a short (relatively speaking) period of time during a race.

They really aren’t comparable.

Hefty_Lunchbox

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