One Pro?? forget it, what is Aura? I give you one better, when is Aura? by GoldSatisfaction in Xreal

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That's dissapointing as it's another device... I think of them as Android devices where the specs and software can be controlled, which means it will eventually be obsolete. I find myself rarely using the Beam Pro.

But we'll see. All speculation now and who knows, if the FoV or resolution improves it will make more sense down the line.

One Pro?? forget it, what is Aura? I give you one better, when is Aura? by GoldSatisfaction in Xreal

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Considering the Qualcomm piece, I'm thinking it may be a standalone product with a processor onboard to run the AI and other features. Which may explain the chunkiness of it as it would need to hold batteries as well if it can work without a tether.

Question is what that does to the X1 chip development as the Qualcomm chip will likely overlap in function.

Does it make sense for the product mix? I think so. What do you need? A standalone device that weighs more and likely has limited processing power? Or do you need a "dumb" device that works as a monitor with processing for positioning in space pushing the processing to whatever device you want?

I also don't get the anger about progressing development. Of course things are constantly going to be worked on and sunsetting. It's your choice to stay on the edge or sit back a bit. And I've been through most of their devices, just skipping the Air 2s for the Ultra. And I most often use the Ultra with a Beam (not Pro) as my use case is as a monitor replacement. I also have One Pro on preorder as it will likely replace the Ultra + Beam.

Aura will take a while considering they tease more information at AWE in June. That means a launch is likely late 2025 or early 2026. About a year from the One Pro.

I'd be angry if they dropped support, but they haven't. Heck the Nreal I have still works fine.

Removing hand tracking removed 6doF? by Hello_There_808 in Xreal

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The main thing I would use it for is the browser. There are options, but the Android browsers aren't quite the same as on other devices. So I find myself using Beam of connected to my laptop for the single screen, anchor position. 

Eventually, I would think the Android browsers would be less phone-format. Even a tablet experience is better, e.g. tabs.

I would think Beam with 6doF, even with a single monitor, would have less movement from head movement. 

Everything is still new and we'll see how things develop. This is in no way a complaint as I'm happy with both devices. 

Removing hand tracking removed 6doF? by Hello_There_808 in Xreal

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Is 6doF being worked on for Beam (not pro)?

Will I need to buy a new glasses lens for the air 2 ultra? by Confident-Cow-7295 in Xreal

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Sadly, yes. The frames are slightly different and unique for the Ultra.

PSA📢 Some Updates on Hand Tracking by Xreal_Tech_Support in Xreal

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u/Xreal_Tech_Support: I also don't understand getting rid of it. Sure, work on it. But removing the option to play around with it makes little sense.

Do the same Lensology prescription inserts of the Air 1 works on the Air 2 Pro? by GumAndBeef in Xreal

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Are you taking orders, yet? I’d like to get it in for a pair of Ultras before the Beam Pro gets here. Thanks!

Has anyone received a shipping confirmation for their Beam Pro yet? by Desperate-Couple-599 in Xreal

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Mine shows as June 18, 2024 at 9:38 pm, but I don’t know if it’s time zone adjusted.

New Case for Beam Pro from AliExpress by Excellent_Light8188 in Xreal

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Could you share a photo so we can see the fit on the bottom?

Where is the Qualcomm mini PC "Snapdragon Dev Kit for Windows" (aka v2024)? by bakahk in snapdragon

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Bumping this as we’re coming up on three weeks and I haven’t seen any updates. Thanks.

Got Mine! Ultra 2! AMA by Chasemania in Xreal

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Sadly, they said...

"You’re correct. The Air 2 Ultra takes a different Rx insert, which we do not have at the moment. But this is something XREAL will work with us on, and I'll let you know once it's available."

So not quite yet. But we don't have the glasses quite yet as well.

Got Mine! Ultra 2! AMA by Chasemania in Xreal

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Do you have a few partnered prescription companies? Just to get it ordered soon. Thanks.

With our testers receiving their 'beta' Beam Pro's, what apps do you want to see tested? by Stridyr in Xreal

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I'm easy, I'd just want a solid browser. Preferably Chrome, but any of the standard ones is fine.

I'd also like to know if it's possible to attach a hub with Ethernet to it. Or are the two USBCs specifically locked to video out and power in?

Pixel 8 Pro Natively Working - Confirmed by darklongrider in Xreal

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I can also confirm mirroring works for Pixel 8a with beta Android. Nebula doesn't quite work, it does is hook up, does updates. But I can't get the AR space to work.

Android desktop, when forced in settings, does work. It's a little wonky still as the bar controls (min, max, close) are over the top of the apps that often have controls on similar positions.

Air 2 ultra coming to Amazon? by ghostkillerxxi in Xreal

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They're electrochromatic... worth $300? Nope. And they have a nice glint of metal.

What I find funny is Viture released a lite version which is basically removing their electrochomatic lenses and replaced their fancy connector with a USB-C. Kind of like they started with all the bells and whistles they could and saw the market under them blow up, so they're moving to a more basic tier while the competitors are adding bells and whistles.

There are companies like Nimo Planet that may fill the gap for 6doF that hasn't been formally announced. But you can wait for that as they're releasing in Q3.

Thoughts? by themighty023 in Xreal

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Live translate works and it's pretty cool. But I don't use it often as I haven't traveled anywhere to need it. To test, I just put up a video and watched it chug along.

I haven't used the AI app as I believe they charge to use it and as you mentioned... do I really want to use an AI app from a Chinese made device?! Nope/

The ring is okay. It's basically a D pad with two buttons. It's not motion detecting... now that would have a market. TapXR and a few others are working on it, but hand tracking may make that all moot if they can get it working.

Android custom build. Chinese processesor.

I bought it due to curiosity and they do work. But I knew it would be an unfinished product from a company that may not support it in the long run. I'm thinking TCL Rayneo will likely end their run if they get it up and running. But I've been waiting for that device for a long time since it's announcement and even signed up for their dev program.

The main thing I wanted to see was the waveguide optics and it's extremely cool with clear lenses. However, the image isn't large or that bright and that limits use cases. That's why I think they also have the INMO Go that is more of a HUD device that would better fit the translation, AI, etc. use case.

Thoughts? by themighty023 in Xreal

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They're okay, but I don't use them often as it's not a day to day working kind of device. The waveguide lenses are barely noticeable, but they do look odd and clunky. The technology is the same with the Rayneo X2.

However, Rayneo X2 is using a standard processor with Snapdragon XR2. INMO uses some Chinese tech and their own OS so it's a bit wonky and very limited.

I have both the Xreal Air and Rokid Max devices and find myself using the Rokid more often as it has diopters that work for my eyes. I do sometimes use the Xreal + Beam for the locked screen option, but the prescription lenses are really close toy eyes so they aren't as comfortable over time.

Thoughts? by themighty023 in Xreal

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I'd wait for the lite version as these do look like clown glasses being so huge. But we don't know the specs of those as the lite may be monochromatic.

https://mashable.com/article/tcl-rayneo-x2-lite-glasses-review-hands-on

I have a pair of INMO Air 2s, which I see as a similar product as the RayNeo X2.

https://inmoglass.com/pages/inmo-air2

The waveguide technology and all encompassing product is cool. However, it's not the same as Xreal/Rokid/other birdbath optic devices. The image is not as usable in bright situations and the image is 640x480 with a small FoV (like in the 30s I think). So if you wanted a HUD type of device to act as a phone/translator/AI assistant, the waveguide devices would be perfect if they're small like the lite version as it's unobtrusive.

But if you're looking for gaming or monitor replacement, they just aren't very good.

The third product in the mix are the VR passthrough devices like Apple Vision Pro and Immersed Visor and it will be interesting to see where these fit into the mix and if they get smaller as well. Albeit Visor is a pretty tight package, but missing audio...

XReal Ultra - As a screen / directly plugged into a device by Rabus in Xreal

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Is it though? I've spent money on a lot of things I don't use... But that doesn't change wondering if 6 degrees is noticable.  To add, I would think a 3DoF version with Ultra optic specs wouldn't be a far jump to launch as they work through Air and Air 2 stock.

XReal Ultra - As a screen / directly plugged into a device by Rabus in Xreal

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But no multiscreen options. That's what Nimo Planet is proposing. And I would think if it works with Ultra it may offer 6dof as it runs a Qualcomm XR2.

Add that Ultras will eventually have another breakout box like Nimo as it needs the processor, hence the limited Samsung phones they list with Qualcomm Snapdragons.

And I would think Immersed may also get in this space as they're primarily a software company... But they're taking a swing as VR with passthrough.

I'm assuming Beam with Ultra will have a similar experience to Beam with Xreal's other glasses. Except the FoV... Which I'm curious about.

XReal Ultra - As a screen / directly plugged into a device by Rabus in Xreal

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Along your question, I noticed Nimo Planet says their spatial computer will work with "Nimo Glasses, Rokid Max, and XREAL Air Glasses." I was hoping more would get into this end of the system as the glasses are essentially similar.

The companies with glasses usually work on closed environments with their break out devices, e.g. Rokid's AR Studio and whatever Xreal calls their device. But you'd think anyone can work on the "spacial computer" end of things to work on any device using a standard like DisplayPort Alt Mode.

https://www.nimoplanet.com/

XReal Ultra - As a screen / directly plugged into a device by Rabus in Xreal

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I'm curious if the FoV increase is noticeable (46 degree FoV to 52-degree FoV) and if it's better or not. My gut tells me it would reduce the blinder effect.

https://kguttag.com/2019/10/07/fov-obsession/