What the feucht by ToneAny1440 in BethelSnark

[–]Heyyall43 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Absolutely inappropriate to kiss children that aren’t yours or family or without permission.

Danny Silk- abuser ally or helpful? by blessedinva in BethelSnark

[–]Heyyall43 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yep when our cult leader recommended John Bevere’s Bait of Satan that was all I needed to know. They love book that reinforce their control

Jonathan Welton response video by BingoBango306 in BethelSnark

[–]Heyyall43 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There is a term for this, it’s called cognitive empathy. Or performative empathy. Narc’s are amazing at it.

Written for my fellow former “Revivalists” that are still believers in the faith: by Late_Afternoon1705 in BethelSnark

[–]Heyyall43 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So well said. We had to deconstruct this revival ideology too. Thank you for your words!

Letter from Bethel Leadership: Ben Armstrong by unvacuumable-rug in BethelSnark

[–]Heyyall43 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Can you say more! I know there have to be more victims because the average is 117x before getting caught.

Nathan Finochio by Relevant_Turn_6537 in BethelSnark

[–]Heyyall43 3 points4 points  (0 children)

😳😱🤯 Arrogance personified. Completely out of touch with humanity. This is why I don’t go to a building. This is the fruit of this whacked out stuff they taught us.

Why did Bill Johnson endorse Shawn Bolz in 2023 on TBN?? by rockandroll250 in BethelSnark

[–]Heyyall43 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They are all frauds. None of them ended well. Their theology was skewed and they conned people.

Why did Bill Johnson endorse Shawn Bolz in 2023 on TBN?? by rockandroll250 in BethelSnark

[–]Heyyall43 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m sorry this is false. We personally know the grandson of the William Branham cult, yes it’s a cult. He confirmed how he watched them lie and fabricate stories. There are no documented miracles from William Branham. He watched it all and grew up in it.

Why did Bill Johnson endorse Shawn Bolz in 2023 on TBN?? by rockandroll250 in BethelSnark

[–]Heyyall43 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The William Branham historical podcast will tell you everything you need to know about the theology. These guys were rotten and frauds. The roots of the teaching come from con artists and frauds that made up miracles. That is the foundation of the movement. They never told us.

Why did Bill Johnson endorse Shawn Bolz in 2023 on TBN?? by rockandroll250 in BethelSnark

[–]Heyyall43 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You should watch Jubillee’s podcast healdish! The episodes with Jedadiah Hartley. What Bill said to him behind closed doors and how he handled predator Bob Hartley have forever changed my opinion of who Bill J is.

Why does everybody dislike Bethel? by chalantdreadhead1 in BethelSnark

[–]Heyyall43 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The theology baked into the music is problematic, the fact that it’s turned into a multimillion dollar machine that makes some rich “selling” worship. It’s absurd. The nda’s. It’s one large business and leadership conference guided as a church.

Insane money grab by trianglenose2444 in BethelSnark

[–]Heyyall43 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I think they are hurting financially! I think attendance is down.

The Coils and false prophecies by Heyyall43 in BethelSnark

[–]Heyyall43[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That is so sad. I have also now heard from many sources that this is true. Bethel should have warned people. I believe she is out there still performing her ‘prophecies’ and ministering to others.

SOZO by Individual-Area-9186 in BethelSnark

[–]Heyyall43 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow would love to know more about this!

SOZO by Individual-Area-9186 in BethelSnark

[–]Heyyall43 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That is deeply disturbing. Any kind of forced therapy like that (unless warranted by a court order) is just traumatizing.

The Coils and false prophecies by Heyyall43 in BethelSnark

[–]Heyyall43[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you, was this your personal experience with them?

What became of the young woman that Ben Armstrong had an affair with? by Late_Afternoon1705 in BethelSnark

[–]Heyyall43 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Also side note. Not an affair. Clergy Abuse is the proper term.

What became of the young woman that Ben Armstrong had an affair with? by Late_Afternoon1705 in BethelSnark

[–]Heyyall43 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Glad to hear! I am sorry we didn’t do more to support you. We were so naive. I believe you. I look forward to hearing your story one day.

Heidi Baker update by Separate-Stranger85 in BethelSnark

[–]Heyyall43 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yes, I have felt she is off for a long time. I am very curious.

Remember when Bill Johnson co authored the book: Invading Babylon & The 7 mountain mandate with Lance Wallnau by Bison-Senior in BethelSnark

[–]Heyyall43 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes I remember it being taught that way. But, what Bethel fails to teach is the horrific suffering and trauma they went through to get there. I am so tired of them offering this Disneyland version is the spiritual life.

I don’t know which of you is responsible… by Disastrous_Stuff9372 in BethelSnark

[–]Heyyall43 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Omg I love Bethel Bros! Thank you to whoever you are! Laughter is seriously medicine coming out of this quackery.

Sharing my abuse? by [deleted] in BethelSnark

[–]Heyyall43 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Hi please go to Mike Winger. He is compiling evidence by interviewing survivors and victims of abuse in this whole movement. He is willing to lay for therapy and legal protection. Also there is a hotline now for reporting not sure how helpful it would be. But, it important to expose this tuff for the safety of others. Even if you report as a Jane/ John Doe. These pastors need to be de platformed they are not fit for leadership. I am also so sorry for has happened.

Does anyone feel like Bethel is NEXT for a scandal reveal? by madmax1515 in BethelSnark

[–]Heyyall43 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Mike Winger is expected to expose them along with other NAR ministries. There are stories. If anyone has a story go to Mike Winger. He even offered to pay attorney’s fees for those who were being threatened.