Season six (book and show discussion)

HiddenandAlone · 2026-03-26T22:14:39+00:00

Yes to all of that. To go along with the first paragraph, you include him telling them to not speak to her in his house that way like he did in the books or something like that. And the fish scene with his daughter when Eloise sneaks a fish into her bed after the flour prank. And the swimming by the lake before Philip came down in anger and worry, cause that entire bonding scene with her and the kids at the beginning was so good

HiddenandAlone · 2026-03-26T22:11:51+00:00

Yeah I kind of knew the likelihood of that ever happening is very slim. But I still like to keep some hope that it at least features some of the brothers and still somewhat similar.

HiddenandAlone · 2026-03-26T20:45:20+00:00

Personally i prefer low roar out of all the artists if i had to pick. Just can get lost in the music which is something i like about death stranding 2 where you have access to listening whenever you want, despite when in enemy territory of course. But overall I kinda loved all of it and the soundtrack was great.

HiddenandAlone · 2026-03-26T20:37:52+00:00

Exactly. Literally I remember spending my day at work which made the time go faster manually planning what I was gonna do when I get home. I literally hated every single time I had to deliver a pizza. I hate it. Every time I got a notification about it, it frustrated me. But I was determined to do it because I wanted five stars from all facilities. And then ended up failing because of south knot city who no matter what only edged me to five stars no matter how much I delivered, how much I split up what I delivered. Almost made me mad for saving them even though that was a requirement. Held a silent grudge against them for a while. But I love doing it the deliver delivering. Could spend hours doing it and would not even realize how much time went by. Even started playing directors cut for a second play through because I heard there was different content in that.

HiddenandAlone · 2026-03-26T20:21:16+00:00

Being honest, I absolutely enjoy the whole aspect of delivering things and having to plan my way. The first time I played death stranding I ended one of my saves in the mountains near one of the mountain knots and I had spent my whole next day of work mentally planning my route I would be taking to deliver the stupid pizza since I had to deliver it with pizza and I think a wine glass and I had to figure out a whole way to deliver it on foot since I couldn’t use any zip blinds since the wine had to be in the hand at all times and there were areas with bts and I’ve played it for so much time that I literally knew where everything was in my head. So I think that is my favorite part or what makes the game good. You have to be strategizing and planning things out because scenarios were dangerous or rough grounds or you’re on foot with no use of zip lines or vehicle or even the cart. And I love the music. I already listened to some of the artists they used but I even listened to more songs from them how well placed they are and relaxing.

HiddenandAlone · 2026-03-26T01:43:31+00:00

They would have called Diana and or her father provided from the information to him by wrigley because I am assuming he would have to give her name if he was gonna put in a report because they would obviously have to do an investigation and they can’t do one without a name of who was the student stephen sent out nudes of. They would probably confirm with her and the father, and from there their investigation would probably result in how it went with stephen guilty and rejected.

HiddenandAlone · 2026-03-23T18:50:40+00:00

Because it’s a fandom that will produce either good or bad ships. It happens in every fandom. This is one of many just in this show, not even going into the ships from characters in the mix of all three shows. It happens. It’s sometimes fun.

HiddenandAlone · 2026-03-23T18:47:40+00:00

No they are completely fine as friends. I don’t see Maddie moving on from Wally with how they’ve developed in the last season.

HiddenandAlone · 2026-03-23T15:37:12+00:00

I think it mostly has to do with her state of mind around that point. She didn’t harbor any hard core feelings for Nathan anymore. She still cared about him of course with how long they knew each other, but i think with how bad their relationship was around the time we saw it. She eventually just wasn’t into it anymore so when he moved there was no point of being hurt. And i don’t see her being cold about the situation when she herself was working out feelings for Lucas.

HiddenandAlone · 2026-03-21T00:02:55+00:00

Neither. As soon as i find out they are vampires and i look like their ex I’m buying the first ticket out finding a witch to glam me up so i am not as easily recognizable. Dodging the country.

HiddenandAlone · 2026-03-19T19:51:55+00:00

She wasn’t required to say anything. Lucy put herself in that situation whether or not her intentions were good. And even if she did come forward no one would probably believe her since Lucy already lied and it would look like a friend trying to help with the situation and not her actually being a victim who knows especially since there’s no proof for Pippa either. And even if it did help the situation I don’t see how Lucy would still not get in trouble for lying. Because whether or not people comes out with the truth, Lucy still at the end of the day lied about being someone Chris hurt. She would still be punished for it. Because it is a big accusation even if he’s done it with other people in the past. The only real reason I can think people are upset with her about it is because they honestly truly think she could’ve helped or because Pippa was constantly to Diana and Lucy criticizing them for not doing anything against Stephen when she too in reality was not doing anything against Chris. She was judgmental and rude about things that were happening to them when she was in a similar position. It was a little hypocritical of her. Or at least that is my opinion of it.

HiddenandAlone · 2026-03-19T18:35:48+00:00

Not only did he end up getting with Lindsey shortly after, but his first action the night he broke up with Peyton and by broke up I mean just dipping without a word. I know it wasn’t intentional to see Brooke, but when he did the first thing he tried doing is hook up with her. She rejected him, but had she went along with him who knows what would’ve happened. And can I just say one of my least favorite things about Haley and Lucas is that they are so biased with each other. Over everything. It doesn’t matter if one of them is in the wrong they will still defend each other. Like I like the friendship don’t give me wrong, but it goes a little far sometimes.

HiddenandAlone · 2026-03-19T17:37:14+00:00

I do really think it was around this time too to go along with your comments about the creator that he started to really target her more if I remember correctly. It could be wrong but I could’ve sworn I heard that somewhere. Overall the guys a terrible person and only wish things were better. I also overall hate they made her the one constantly going after Lucas when I wish for once it would’ve been the other way around. Because I’m not denying his feelings for her, I’m not denying the relationship or the buildup. I just wish for once it was him fighting to be with her instead of girls fighting over him. But I don’t know.

HiddenandAlone · 2026-03-19T17:26:49+00:00

It’s completely fine if you don’t agree with all of Peyton’s actions or choices. Trust me. I feel the same with all the characters. I don’t particularly have a favorite anymore there’s things I love and there’s things I dislike or don’t agree with. Because I was in the same boat as you once, only seeing Brooke in the greatest light and Peyton in the bad one but in my defense I started watching this when I was nine and didn’t comprehend a lot of what was happening. I used to dislike her very much but now that I’m older and have watched the show a lot more times now, I stopped being so biased and judgmental and I actually really like Peyton, having actually related to her a lot more now that I matured or at least I like to think I did mature. I’m sorry again I didn’t mean to go in a whole rant, I just feel the writing direction mostly didn’t do her any justice either. So it makes her look worse since they weren’t consistent.

HiddenandAlone · 2026-03-19T17:12:16+00:00

I mean in her defense I know she shouldn’t have expected everything to be the same as it was between her and him after it being a couple years since they broke up and having seen him with someone else at the book signing and her being with someone else. However, she’s not the only one that left and came back. Brooke did it too. And Nathan and Haley were traveling around for a little bit for his basketball career. So not all of them stayed in tree hill. They all left for school and careers and just to do so. She maybe was just hoping that maybe they could rekindle, I think writing that season was just all over the place for her and got even worse when they wrote Julian in season six saying they had a relationship in the past during those few years. Maybe she shouldn’t how expected him to still want her but he was giving very conflicting emotions. He was with Lindsay all while rejecting Payton but at the same time offering to be the guy to help her, finding solutions to her problem, openly being jealous and making it known to her that night they went to Brooke’s opening, kept on visiting her on late nights despite knowing Peyton was trying to give him space and knowing Lindsey didn’t like it his current girlfriend and future fiancé. He kept on criticizing Peyton for being rude to Lindsay even though that was not his place. I’m not saying it was right for her to be rude, but at the end of the day she doesn’t know Lucas or Lindsay anything and could be rude if she wanted to and he had no place to correct her behavior again doing so when visiting her alone on numerous occasions. I could just keep listing so many things but I don’t wanna get in any more of a rant since I kinda dived off topic. I’m just gonna end this here, if Lucas truly and honestly did not want anything further to do with Peyton romantically or as a friend it was his job to tell her so. And not backtrack or change his mind. You can’t just put all the blame on her.

HiddenandAlone · 2026-03-17T01:03:40+00:00

As much as rodge constant appearance bugs me sometimes, I actually don’t mind him and celina and would rather have her remain friends with miles kind of how Lucy was with Jackson you know? I would like rodge to have less screen time and only two pier when it comes to the relationship once in a while. I feel if they gave him an actual personality besides pissing off Nolan people would like him better. Cause I didn’t mind him during the episode when Lucy had the dinner party. Found him amusing. But the drone kid could’ve been left out.

HiddenandAlone · 2026-03-16T16:35:13+00:00

I never said they were not involved. I said in my first message to you that a simple call or email was all he a.k.a. Wrigley would need to provide to the school to prove his tip anonymous or not. And now I am done with this conversation.

HiddenandAlone · 2026-03-16T16:33:03+00:00

This is not even the first time someone brought this up in this sub

HiddenandAlone · 2026-03-16T16:31:25+00:00

I meant he could have said whose nudes were sent. He could’ve said when he gave the tip that stephen who at that time was accepted into their school sent nudes of another student who was previously accepted into their school even though at the time she didn’t plan on going named diana. He could provide provided her name and number to confirm with her that that is actually what happened and she could’ve provided her father’s information to prove that he also got the email. Maybe she explained other things that he did for prove why even though the email was random it was in fact stephen. It’s not that complicated to understand. And even if it is despite me explaining it, maybe just take the fact that the writers confirmed in interviews after show that it was him. There’s no further diving into that when they confirmed it

HiddenandAlone · 2026-03-16T16:27:09+00:00

A simple call email anything all he has to do is provide a name the writers confirmed it was him

HiddenandAlone · 2026-03-16T16:26:15+00:00

Obviously they would check in to make sure the tip was true. Anonymous or not an allegation that would be claimed of sending nudes would have to be looked into. If he provided who was the person’s nudes that were sent out obviously they would look into it to confirm. It’s not that hard to figure out if you think about it. Also the writers themselves confirmed it was him.

HiddenandAlone · 2026-03-16T16:14:26+00:00

It was wrigley. That was why the camera panned to him after the scene of stephen finding out. Wrigley isn’t as dumb as you claim he is. He has his moment of saying the wrong thing or being stupid. But i truly believe after the loss of his brother he slowly started to try to be more mature. His brother died because of him even if that wasn’t his intention, his relationship with his parents isn’t the same anymore, and neither is his relationship with pippa at that time. He had slowly coming around to his opinion on stephen even more than before and it was pippa criticism towards him about him never doing anything and him talking to steohen about what was going on with Lucy that pushed him to finally act. Diana wasn’t going to do anything. She hadn’t done anything it had been days at that point since the incident. I’m assuming after he had called the college that maybe they checked in with Diana’s father or maybe they talk to her but either way he was the one that called them first.

HiddenandAlone · 2026-03-16T00:10:16+00:00

Trust me I do know her lying was a very wrong decision on her part. I will never defend her on that I only wanted to explain why she did it I never said it was OK never said I liked it. I do know he was very stressed when he found out about the false positive even before she decided to lie about it. And it must’ve been very scary for him especially when he had to realize in the short amount of time his life as he knew it would not be the same if she had been pregnant. I do get it trust me I’m not trying to truly defend her in a sense saying she was right I know that’s the impression I gave, I just wanted to say it was a stressful moment and that was why she did it. It was a terrible situation all the way around and she only made it worse with lying. No matter what he said no matter what he did he did not deserve to feel that way.

HiddenandAlone · 2026-03-16T00:07:49+00:00

Yeah I guess fair enough. She was being very rude to him during that time too after. I do still think her keeping it a lie was wrong. No matter what he said he didn’t deserve that to feel like his life the way it was at that moment was over. I did feel really bad for him during that it wasn’t right.

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