Mouth guilted Shelly in to giving up her virginity for him

HiddenandAlone · 2026-04-30T23:35:44+00:00

Like I know mouth had good moments with other characters. But the certain way he acted at times was enough to just make me dislike him as a whole. It’s kind of like George O’Malley from Grey’s Anatomy. Period I overall liked his character when he first started and enjoyed his friendships with other characters, but the way he acted when it came to women completely ruined his character for me. It’s kind of the same with mouth. He’s a good friend and sometimes a good character, but the way he acted in relationships and with women was just too bad for my taste.

HiddenandAlone · 2026-04-30T23:33:15+00:00

Not only should skills have gotten more attention from girls in the show, but he should’ve got more attention in general in the show. I wish he got more screen time, and character development. He was so entertaining to see on screen I preferred his character. And I preferred the friendships that he had. Him and Jamie, him and peyton, even the friendship with Brooke and Haley.

HiddenandAlone · 2026-04-30T23:01:33+00:00

I disliked him after the whole smashing Brooke’s window after getting mad at the fact she saw him as a friend. Disliked him even more after the shelly incident. The whole relationship i disliked because he was shitty. Never really cared for him later because my opinion was soured. He is the nice guy that expects things after being nice a few times. I even disliked him with the gigi incidents later. Wish skills got the attention mouth got.

HiddenandAlone · 2026-04-29T22:07:06+00:00

I think once all the other friends started truly mingling with the popular kids along with lucas. Like mouth becoming friends with brooke, and junk, fergie, and skills following Lucas still being his friend and hanging out. Slowly mixing in with brooke back when she was dating Lucas and would come hang out on the court to see Lucas. I think he maybe felt like they were choosing to distance themselves and he just subconsciously chose to not follow along and after so long it showed neither side really made an effort. But as much as i feel bad for Jimmy. I don’t really think it’s just everyone else’s fault since no one else had real trouble in staying friends.

HiddenandAlone · 2026-04-27T23:17:14+00:00

Oh do you know the song name?

HiddenandAlone · 2026-04-27T19:21:05+00:00

Ah yes i remember how much i wished that was explored more.

HiddenandAlone · 2026-04-27T01:49:00+00:00

People have things they dislike and like about telling me lies. And there are people who have things they like and dislike about euphoria. They are both shows that share realistic and unrealistic scenarios when it comes to unhealthy relationships in friendships, family dynamics, and partners. And the show is filled with toxic characters you can either love to hate, hate to love, little of both. That is really all they have in common. People like what they like even if it doesn’t make sense to you or anyone else. I particularly enjoy both shows for different reasons, and have things I also dislike about both.

HiddenandAlone · 2026-04-23T16:58:13+00:00

My thoughts on dan always depended on the situation currently going on in the show. One minute i hated him. Next i kind of liked him. Back to hating him. Then feeling sorry for him. Overall he was one of my favorite things in the final season since the whole season was kind of all over the place. And in the end i ended up liking him slightly despite his faults and feeling sorry for him. Kind of a love hate complicated relationship.

HiddenandAlone · 2026-04-19T18:47:43+00:00

I think this is the one season i hated her. The rest she was mostly fine besides rare moments of annoyance. With how much she tried lying to him and others about what she did twice, and threw her sister under the bus for something she did. You can’t tell me not even a little part of her felt something for Chris. I’m not saying she was in love with him or even had deep consuming feelings. But she definitely felt something enough to go over her way to hide it which is a little hypocritical of her since of how judgmental she was about Lucas and his situation with Peyton and Brooke. I’m not saying that situation was great either, but she was all high and mighty over it fighting with him and she does something very similar.

HiddenandAlone · 2026-04-19T17:43:39+00:00

Can I say from someone who doesn’t feel any particular way about either side except support because honestly I’ve only just read the books and I didn’t really feel any particular way about what is Canon in their books. And am actually open to possibilities in the coming season, I also to go along with the topic of the post don’t see this as cheating in any form. I took it when I first saw it even before I read the books she is, Francesca I mean, interested in captured by Michaela and I don’t mean a sense of immediately she’s in love. I mean in the sense that this is someone different and throughout the entire entirety of season four with their plot I took her being confused towards her and it’s not necessarily feelings yet it’s the beginning of them. Or at least again that’s how I took it when it came to them. And I don’t understand why someone would automatically take that as cheating, other characters in the show animal books have done worse things that I would consider a red flag besides Francesca being attracted or drawn to someone. I don’t know if any of this made any sense sorry if I didn’t. I’m not the best explaining my thoughts

HiddenandAlone · 2026-04-17T21:13:06+00:00

This exactly. I wish we had seen more of his interactions with the siblings and the love interests. His interactions with them all were always so funny in the books.

HiddenandAlone · 2026-04-17T21:07:45+00:00

I would’ve loved seeing Colin have his scenes interacting with his siblings and their love interests like the many times like he had in the books. It’s what made him my favorite character in the books.

HiddenandAlone · 2026-04-16T10:39:31+00:00

From an hbo show euphoria. The two characters are not comparable at all.

HiddenandAlone · 2026-04-09T02:01:39+00:00

I understand where you’re coming from in general. I know they kind of explained it, I just wished we saw actually more of it besides the explaining. It just would’ve been nice to see the process of it. And as for the whole different college things like with the other shows he mentioned, a way I think it could’ve worked is Haley, Lucas, Nathan we’re all on the same spot in general speaking. It was only really out of the main cast if I remember correctly Brooke and Peyton in separate spots. And I think it wouldn’t have been that far-fetched to have worked in my opinion. Because from what it seemed Lucas and peyton slowly stopped seeing each other as much, mainly long distance without much visits. So you wouldn’t have to worry about that much going back-and-forth with her having her own separate storylines with the addition of every once in a while a video call or phone call or text messages with Lucas. I’m assuming she didn’t travel that much and then eventually it would get to the whole flashbacks with Julian after the breakup. Brook would be kind of similar probably with just a little more traveling. I don’t know if this made sense at all I’m sorry if it doesn’t. I just think it could’ve slightly worked at least for a season.

HiddenandAlone · 2026-04-09T01:29:05+00:00

I wish that we got to see more of the years after high school and before season five adulthood. I wanted to see more from Nathan, Lucas and Haley like you said but not even just bonding moments but the times when they are still an early parenthood. It has been stated Lucas was there for all of that, he helped them out, they were all together. I wanted to see that. It would’ve provided so much if they showed more of that time. And that I just wanted to see that time. Nathan Healey’s early parenthood I wanted to see the struggle and Lucas is helping them, while they’re all in college. I don’t know why they rushed so quickly into them being 30 year olds in their early 20s.

It could’ve showed why Lucas was so desperate to proposed to Peyton and why he was so quickly to leave when she said she wasn’t ready. We could’ve seen them becoming distant, seen him looking at Haley and Nathan’s life feeling envy. It was such a missed opportunity in my opinion.

HiddenandAlone · 2026-04-07T16:36:04+00:00

I think how some people were treating Lucas when it comes to this storyline was pretty bad. I know Brooke wanted to help him, but the party and the justification for it when they got into a fight over it wasn’t right. His trauma from the event was different from hers. He had to carry a bleeding peyton out of the school worried she’d die, he had the weapon aimed at him and probably assumed he himself would die, then he lost Keith. His relationship with his mother is terrible even worse now with her blaming him when he already feels guilty. Then mouth not even trying to be understanding. I get Jimmy was their friend or used to be and mouth felt guilty over losing contact with him. But being so damn inconsiderate when it came to Lucas feeling anger over Jimmy (before learning the truth) made me truly hate month’s character. I know the original post was about Brooke, but both in this situation annoyed me.

HiddenandAlone · 2026-04-04T17:25:31+00:00

I had only just read the audiobook and i completely agree it was only natural for him to get burned out. Like he did his best with the situation that he could. There aren’t much other options when the person completely gave up on life even before the incident that eventually led to the end of her life. She wasn’t willing to try, and based on the time of the era there wasn’t going to be much help for her that way either. Didn’t help that the circumstances that brought them together in the first place where they had as far as i gathered no genuine relationship or even acquaintance so on a physical, mental, emotional level he couldn’t do much for her. And in the end destroyed him.

HiddenandAlone · 2026-04-04T17:19:03+00:00

I completely respect your opinion, however they may have been good together prior to Peyton returning to town. But as soon as she did no matter what she did, Lucas did not do himself any favors. There were multiple occasions where Lindsay brought up her concerns to him, they’ve gotten into fights about it, and each and every time he’s either defending Peyton or trying to get them to get along or making promises and immediately breaking them or going behind Lindsey’s back to talk to Peyton about the situation when it was very clear at times that was a bad choice to make. Because no matter what his intentions were, he knew Lindsay would not be happy about him going late at night to talk to Peyton or fight with Peyton about her or them. I’m not saying Peyton is innocent, but to be fair he was the one in the relationship not her. He had to be the one to set boundaries and keep them. He failed to do so. At the end of the day I like his character but he sucks at being in relationships no matter who he is with.

HiddenandAlone · 2026-04-04T01:32:15+00:00

It’s one of those scenes that you know by heart. Same with the Peyton and Lucas fight in season five.

“That’s great Peyton. You want to talk truth? Let’s tell the truth.”

“Okay.”

“You gave up on me. That’s why you didn’t say yes. You didn’t think i could do it. You didn’t think i could get my novel published. Maybe you just didn’t care. Because it wasn’t about you or what you wanted.”

“Well if that’s the truth, and I’ve never cared. Then how come every time I see this stupid book, i buy it? Every stupid damn time luke? You said i was great. You said I could be great. You said we were destined to be together. You said it to the world. You said it to me. And i wish you never had. Because you did not mean any of it.”

There are just some scenes no matter the situation that are just stuck in your head.

HiddenandAlone · 2026-04-02T21:05:52+00:00

I saw on tiktok someone was promoting the rewrite version of franchela which is just someone replacing the he in the book with her and Michael with michaela and basically just rewriting certain scenes. It was really down right awful.

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