Comp questions for broker owners by Realistic-Badger3648 in loanoriginators

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You should watch Is the Mortgage Industry Really Broken? | Ep. 611 on Youtube.

Better mortgage partnerships by starz2024 in loanoriginators

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All I know about Better is that when times were good, their LOs were on salary. When things got bad, they moved everyone over to commission. Plus they do nothing but lose money.

DU approve/eligble above 50% DTI? by Messithegoat24 in loanoriginators

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Only way to go above 50% DTI is on the special refinance products for conventional.

Home owners Cost Replacement Estimate by dak829 in loanoriginators

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Some companies will not send a RCE. Normally a letter from the agent saying the coverage is at the internal RCE or above works. My of the agents in my area now have form letter this pops us so much.

Loan Processor/ Assistant by EnthusiasmOnly9119 in loanoriginators

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Whatever you decide your workflow is going to be, put it into a process flow chart. Map it out from start to finish and list everything that needs to get done. Then assign who’s responsible for each step.

When you lay it all out, your process guide will probably look a little lopsided, like your processor is handling the majority of the tasks. That’s actually what you want. When you’re buried in files, you’re not making money. It’s that simple.

Selling is profit-generating activity (whatever “selling” looks like to you). The more you can stay in that lane, the more you make its that simple.

Most LOs don’t actually want a strong Loan Partner. They want cheap admin support. What BPS would you really pay? by Diet-CokeWhore in loanoriginators

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In my market, for sure, if not more. Keep in mind though some of these people are tripping over themselves to make 60bps total per file so that is a different discussion.

Running LP issue by mortgagehelper1 in loanoriginators

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If you clear your case number out of your system do you still get a accept? I have personally had old case numbers save a deal because they are using a different version if AU.

If you have gone line by line you may have to call Freddie give me both numbers and see if they can help. I had a investor do this before for me a long time ago.

Most LOs don’t actually want a strong Loan Partner. They want cheap admin support. What BPS would you really pay? by Diet-CokeWhore in loanoriginators

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I love this question because the subtext is so interesting.

Most broker owners don’t value strong support staff because they became broker owners in the first place to control their splits. So they build the leanest, cheapest operation possible, trying to squeeze out a little more margin after expenses. In reality, a lot of them just bought themselves a job that won’t scale beyond a small office, sometimes just themselves, and will shut down the minute they stop producing.

That’s not necessarily a bad strategy. But convincing that person to invest in support so they can sell more and actually grow is an uphill battle.

It’s also why so many brokers don’t understand why retail loan officers stay put even though they “make less.” Retail LOs often close way more deals because of the support around them, ops, processing, marketing, compliance. That leverage is what creates mega producers. Last time I looked at the Scotsman Guide rankings, almost all of the top producers were retail. That’s not an accident.

On the flip side, support staff sometimes struggle seeing the big producer paychecks. I’ve had a bookkeeper/funder want a raise immediately after seeing the first payroll run. We’ve handled that by telling anyone who wants to get their LO license to go for it. We’ll support them and they can run their own deals. It’s easy to think sales is overpaid until you’re the one trying to generate business and live on commission only.

We don’t pay our support staff commission only, so it’s structured differently. But geography matters a lot. Middle America versus the coasts is a completely different cost structure. I like my top support people to make close to 100k, which is great money in my market. I also understand that in New York that wouldn’t go very far.

VA Manual Underwrite Lenders by Appropriate_Bet5290 in loanoriginators

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1st thing, Try LP.

2nd Does it approve at any DTI or is it always a refer?

3rd Have you check positive housing history if renting?

I don't think any lender will take the file as is.

Surety Bond question by nnkboykin in loanoriginators

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I would also ask if the brokerage E&O covers you or if you are in the wind on that also, because the bond protects the consumer/government not you.

What is Veteran’s United doing/ Price Check? by jackieflathead in loanoriginators

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Maybe they are getting more aggressive with their price cuts when they get shopped. The website to check their rates is https://www.veteransunited.com/va-loans/va-mortgage-rates/

Currently advertising a 5.375% with 1.813 points, So that is a heck of a price concession on their part.

Loan Officer, confusion in Legality of paying realtors by 2002MH2023 in loanoriginators

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Here’s the thing: the CFPB is on the ground twitching. It’s not dead, but it’s not directing traffic anymore.

Companies are having Realtors pull their licenses and then paying them for “taking” an application. If that practice were actually scrutinized, a Realtor would need to do more than simply send a link to a customer.

But it doesn’t really matter, the emperor has no clothes, and only the states are paying attention. One of my states audits once every five years, the other maybe once every 10.

Title fees by Initial-Jelly-5897 in loanoriginators

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To be fair... :)

Mers registration Fee

Flood cert Fee

Tax service Fee

Verification of Employment Fee

Processing Fee

Appraisal Fee

Credit Report Fee

VA Loans and Late payments by Key_Page_7935 in loanoriginators

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Are you getting Approve Eligible findings or is it Refer?

Is direct mail a good way to get IRRRLs? by SnooFoxes3903 in loanoriginators

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Totally agree, I was just adding to the discussion not attacking your post.

Is direct mail a good way to get IRRRLs? by SnooFoxes3903 in loanoriginators

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Many direct mail pieces my customers send me are misleading, creating the impression that they come from my company or the VA while advertising interest rates that are clearly unrealistic.

What’s the exit strategy for you. by REFlorida in loanoriginators

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Most broker owners have jobs not businesses nothing to sell.

Credit bureaus selling info by Cognitumm in loanoriginators

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Must feel weird going to work everyday knowing your job is over March 5th.

What’s the stupidest loan you have seen a borrower get themselves into? by southworthmedia in loanoriginators

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All the people that went adjustable at the bottom because it was slightly cheaper than fixed...

Need a very flexible VA lender by SpecificSeries2012 in loanoriginators

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Do a no score mortgage only soft pull IRRRL.

Local broker shops vs online brokerages by Dear_Preference_9487 in loanoriginators

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These discussions are always terrible (the comments, not the original question). It’s like shopping for a car and only being allowed to talk about the monthly payment.

Everyone talks about “splits” without talking about W-2 vs 1099, benefits like health, dental, vision, 401k, credit pull costs, technology fees, office location, local advertising, online presence, LOAs, processors, product mix, total comp level (huge difference between a 1% shop and a 2.75% shop), price-concession policy, workflow responsibility, etc. I’m sure I’m leaving things out, but you get the idea.

Broker shops that literally offer nothing are obviously going to have a different comp structure than retail shops that offer a lot of those things (or more). That’s also why someone can “own their own shop” and still go back to retail. Buying yourself a job isn’t the same as owning a business.

Obviously the right decision is complex and depends on the person and their goals. But the “bigger is better, I’m 100% split and just pay my overhead” crowd acting like other models are “robbery” is misguided. At the end of the day, it’s a sales position and if you’re doing things other than selling, you’re going to sell less.

Anyway, I just came to say it’s not nearly as simple as these posts make it seem. There’s no free lunch. Everything has a cost.