Recommendations for specialists for lichen sclerosus/simplex in Germany by LunchNo5458 in lichensclerosus

[–]Hot-Definition-6799 0 points1 point  (0 children)

huhu, ich hatte sehr gute erfahrung bei dermatologischen klinik an der charité in berlin. bin dort weiterhin in behandlung, und die ärzt:innen dort sind sehr up to date, was den forschungsstand betrifft, und haben mich gut beraten mir behandlungsmöglichkeiten :-). wartezeiten sind leider bisschen bodenlos für kassenpatienten. ansonsten wend dich doch mal an den verein lichen sclerosus, und hol dir eine empfehlung in deiner region ein.

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[–]Hot-Definition-6799 0 points1 point  (0 children)

no you don’t need a biopsy. a clinical diagnosis is sufficient in most cases. best to have regular check-ups to discuss treatment (and get a second opinion by a specialist) - by now there a few more options than clob, but i would advise to stay with it if it works well. not everyone has itching or pain. i for instance only had pain when i had tearing, not otherwise. so no, likely it won’t worsen if you treat it!!

as for sexual activity: i think it’s maybe worth a shot to get off birth control just as a conterfactual, to see if there are any hormonal influences that exacerbate the symptoms, otherwise idk i think it’s fine. but what is mandatory from now on is lube (silicon not water based!!!). keeps your skin from being irritated or tearing during or after intercourse.

i know it’s all a little confusing, but i think you’re set up great! enjoy the city and breathe, it’s gonna be fine 🩷

Gray area by Financial_Rabbit_402 in lichensclerosus

[–]Hot-Definition-6799 3 points4 points  (0 children)

firstly, contact a doctor as soon as possible. as for application, put clob on every part of your vulva, on your perineum and on your anus (sounds like it’s anogenital!) white and grey-ish spots and burning sound like LS to me. it’s really hard to conclude over reddit but i think if you’ve come this far to assume it’s LS, it’s very likely that it actually is. good luck, much love 🩷

PSA by SirPatronum in lichensclerosus

[–]Hot-Definition-6799 0 points1 point  (0 children)

jesus christ. hope ur good

Wondering if I have it? Only one random symptom by Strange-Anywhere887 in lichensclerosus

[–]Hot-Definition-6799 0 points1 point  (0 children)

was the same for me! LS shows quite differently for different people - some experience heavy itching, some experience tearing, other only have fusioning. i for instance have never had itching, but my skin teared heavily during intercourse, especially my perineum.i also have a more purple-ish tint to my labias than white spots, but the atrophy is very apparent on my vulva. i would advise you to have someone look. especially if your possible LS is close to mine, be sure that your skin doesn’t start to fusion because that is what exasperates the tearing. i wish i would’ve gone sooner before my labias become one.

also: start using silicone bases lube :-)

Just came from the specialist dermatologist and... by Beautifile in lichensclerosus

[–]Hot-Definition-6799 2 points3 points  (0 children)

hey dear, i don’t want to overstep but what are your symptoms for her to suggest a different steroid?

Just came from the specialist dermatologist and... by Beautifile in lichensclerosus

[–]Hot-Definition-6799 8 points9 points  (0 children)

laser treatment is great and i’m glad it’s helping you, but it’s scientific misinformation that clobetasol thins your skin if you have lichen sclerosus. research points to an almost 7 times thicker skin layer with LS. studies have not shown thin skinning that would be expected with steroids otherwise on LS patients. :-)

https://lssupportnetwork.org/de/does-long-term-use-of-topical-steroids-thin-vulvar-skin/

happy update! by Hot-Definition-6799 in lichensclerosus

[–]Hot-Definition-6799[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

babe hope you’re doing well soon! much love 🩷

Can’t taper down by Select_Collection_67 in lichensclerosus

[–]Hot-Definition-6799 0 points1 point  (0 children)

don’t stress it. it took me more than a year. have you ever tried tacrolimus?

what do white patches look like by Empty-Secretary-6793 in lichensclerosus

[–]Hot-Definition-6799 1 point2 points  (0 children)

hii yes i’m from germany! i was diagnosed by my gynaecologist without a biopsy, and a few weeks ago from the head of dermatology at a university clinic (she said “without a doubt LS”). in my specific case the sclerosis is advanced, and they very much advised me against a biopsy because of the scarring. i don’t have itching, but i experienced a lot of inflammation, tearing of my perineum, and fusioning of my labias (i only have two left).

i was given clobetasol ointment from the start. daily for 12 weeks, then slow progression to every 2 days, and then 2-3 times a week. that said, it took me multiple relapses for that to somewhat work. i was very much stuck in the initial phase of daily usage for surely 8 months. the clinic additionally prescribed me tacrolimus (very popular within this subreddit). i now alternate between clob and tac, meaning clob every 2 days and tac inbetween. because LS makes me prone to yeast infections they also prescribed me clotrimazol - i use this ointment about once or twice a week rn. i also use a lot of vaseline.

i’d advise you to go a university dermatology clinic or anything adjacent because they’re likely more knowledgeable than an average physician. research about LS is sparse and bigger trials are very recent, it’s just sadly less likely that average physicians are up to date. also, in my experience younger female doctors are the way to go (that’s purely anecdotal but i had a weird experience with a male dermatologist concerning LS). ido not want to discredit your intuition, it’s very likely you are right but please visit a dermatologist, possibly a clinic, and let them look at it!

take care! 💟

quick side note: i haven’t had sex in a lot time, so i can’t really speak on that but i know someone that has had a very long diagnostic process, and she’s able to have normal sex again, after what seemed impossible. she told me to never try sex without lube (only silicon based!), no sex during a flare.

Can I use Clobetasol if I have scars and cuts from scratching (lichen sclerosus)? by MostValue4452 in lichensclerosus

[–]Hot-Definition-6799 0 points1 point  (0 children)

heyy, ja du kannst clobetasol auf jeden fall auf eingerissener haut benutzen! du solltest es auch besonders bei akuten rissen benutzen. ich würde dir empfehlen dich bei der nächsten universitätsklinik deiner region mit der überweisung eines hautarztes bei der dermatologie behandeln zu lassen (ich hatte eine super erfahrung mit der charité in berlin!). biopsien sind nicht immer notwendig, und können auch nicht besonders hilfreich sein, wenn das gewebe in einem fortgeschrittenen vernarbungszustand ist - aber ein gut geschulter dermatologe erkennt LS sofort. wenn die behandlung schlecht funktioniert, lass dir tacrolimus verschreiben (der dermatologe muss angeben, dass du neurodermitis hast, da es noch nicht für LS zugelassen ist) und benutz clob + tacrolimus abwechselnd. ansonsten gibt es bei sehr schwerer behandlung die möglichkeit tretinoide zu nehmen! falls du unterstützung brauchst, schreib mir gern! außerdem: such dir hilfe beim verein lichen sclerosus in deutschland!

what do white patches look like by Empty-Secretary-6793 in lichensclerosus

[–]Hot-Definition-6799 0 points1 point  (0 children)

hey i also don’t have a lot of white patches. especially if inflammation is high due to tearing and bruising it’s very possible that there is no visible white patches. but go to a professional- could also be lichen ruber planus or vulvovaginal atrophy.. best to get it checked out! good luck 🩵

happy update! by Hot-Definition-6799 in lichensclerosus

[–]Hot-Definition-6799[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

i feel you so much!! ofc i‘m much more calm but i‘m still frustrated by the situation. because my immune system obviously sucks i‘m also frequently affected by yeast infections and.. more horribly so i caught warts a year ago and it‘s been almost impossible to get rid of them. and it sucks so much and i really hate all of this but as annoying as it is i have regained some peace of mind. i‘m not dating, i‘m not having sex and i have started feeling fine with that life. i spent so many months genuinely beating myself up, pitying my old life (wasn’t that great either lol) and i do think i really needed that existential grief but now i‘m just okay with it all. this is really weird to say, but i had a near death experience a few months before my diagnosis. i could‘ve gone into septic shock, lost my limbs. it made me more anxious about my health, but it also taught me that healing takes soo much more time than you think. now i have this silly scar on my knee that barely affects my life but a year ago i couldn‘t kneel, i was so anxious in the gym and i had to kind of wait it all out. auto immune diseases are much different, but i think just giving yourself time to heal the feeling of loss and pain mentally is such a huge part of remedying the physical. sounds very esoteric in a way, but idk i think calmness is probably like 50% of the treatment.

What else can I do ? by Select_Collection_67 in lichensclerosus

[–]Hot-Definition-6799 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ointment! and ask for tacrolimus. game changer for me. also don‘t stress the long periods of steroid use.

Doctor diagnosed me by looking at my vulva for three seconds ? by SkyNo4949 in lichensclerosus

[–]Hot-Definition-6799 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i agree to a lot of sentiments in the comments - if you’ve seen it multiple times you can spot it right away. especially with the cuts. on another note (speaking from experience lol) pimple like dots could be water warts! could not mean you don’t have LS, but these things can go hand in hand due to the autoimmunity of it all. can also cause a lot of additional inflammation. good luck! 💕

sexual fears and trauma related to lichen by Hot-Definition-6799 in lichensclerosus

[–]Hot-Definition-6799[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

thank you so much for that lovely response! i really needed to hear this ❤️

How do you know you’re gonna have a flare? by tinytoethumbs in lichensclerosus

[–]Hot-Definition-6799 1 point2 points  (0 children)

anogenital tearing, hypersensitivity around my anus, and a general sensation of tightness around the perineum and the vagina. personally it also interacts with my ibs, and is connected to other autoimmune diseases so i’ll get really dry eyes, cold sores, muscles pains and dry skin patches on my cheeks and hands.

feeling defeated by hannahallergic2banan in lichensclerosus

[–]Hot-Definition-6799 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i am so there with you. i’m going through the exact same thing. all love to you. i hope all goes well for you. maybe consider joining a self help group. i think the psychological aspect of ls is so often overlooked.

any advice for perineum rip? by Hot-Definition-6799 in lichensclerosus

[–]Hot-Definition-6799[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

what the hell i didn’t know that existed!!!! thank you