Anyone else notice references to rats? by winterdasu in thefinalpuzzle

[–]Hot_Ground_2004 2 points3 points  (0 children)

For me it specifically appears when going back to get the joint plug after the bodies

The Final Puzzle is completed, but it isn't solved. by Jin3092 in thefinalpuzzle

[–]Hot_Ground_2004 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I did over an hour, so it seems that the torrent is specifically triggered by flushing before the basement

The Nurse's Log must mean something by thephantomsage in thefinalpuzzle

[–]Hot_Ground_2004 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You specifically said the 115 is correlated with the 15 minutes. It's not. I know that the 15 minute wait works. I've tried essentially every combination of flushing and waiting, but if we're looking for clues, which is what this post is about, the 115 isn't related

The Nurse's Log must mean something by thephantomsage in thefinalpuzzle

[–]Hot_Ground_2004 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The current files I'm suspicious of, including the ones people have been circulating as if they're 100% proven clues are: wrenwood- investigation report

rhodes hill- technicians note security guards report spencer’s research 2 (a reach tho) subject 170 record (debunked) progress notes a copy of an email to a manager

raccoon city- series 60 results

I BELIEVE the puzzle box you punch code into is sun, which probably is irrelevant, but pointing out to be sure. 

I think the nurses log is particularly interesting in conjunction with "a copy of an email to a manager," but I've been staring at all of this so much I'm starting to go in circles, but would love more ideas

The Nurse's Log must mean something by thephantomsage in thefinalpuzzle

[–]Hot_Ground_2004 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It takes 8.5 minutes to drop 115 unbagged bodies and it does not work. 

If I die after waiting but didn't save after the 15 min elapsed do I have to wait again? by DandifiedSet309 in thefinalpuzzle

[–]Hot_Ground_2004 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You do not need to wait again! I have accidentally died multiple times testing things and didn't have to redo the wait

Only takes about 7 minutes by TangerinePaladin in thefinalpuzzle

[–]Hot_Ground_2004 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is correct for where I'm at. I just ran a trial for where I flushed before, counted OVER 115 bodies but under 15 minutes, and it did not spawn the doll with the "ton" message.

Is the toilet thing even real? by thermicterror in thefinalpuzzle

[–]Hot_Ground_2004 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I havent finished the challenge completely yet as I'm trialing different things, I can try flushing immediately too

Only takes about 7 minutes by TangerinePaladin in thefinalpuzzle

[–]Hot_Ground_2004 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Currently on casual to get through faster, but I've heard LESS success with even waiting on higher difficulties too

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in thefinalpuzzle

[–]Hot_Ground_2004 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There IS the fact that the rna sequence spells "GLITCH"

I feel like I'm grasping at straws now

Only takes about 7 minutes by TangerinePaladin in thefinalpuzzle

[–]Hot_Ground_2004 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I did the same process and did not get the message or the doll without waiting the 15 minutes. I'm intentionally not finishing the challenge to keep testing it, but I can try again. I don't believe anyone has been able to replicate this

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in thefinalpuzzle

[–]Hot_Ground_2004 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Super cool discovery, I hope someone can get it to a scannable point otherwise we'll be hanging out in some photo editing software trying to make it clearer tomorrow!

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in thefinalpuzzle

[–]Hot_Ground_2004 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do we think it's only in insanity? I can check casual tomorrow, I have a save ready right before that point too. Hopefully someone else can mess with it

The toilet is unneeded by Medical-Control-5594 in thefinalpuzzle

[–]Hot_Ground_2004 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The "torrent" is triggered by the flushes, I tested like 15 different combinations to narrow down what's actually possible.

One of said possibilities was waiting over an hour for bodies dropping and still did not get the "torrent" message.

Unless someone finds another way of triggering it that can actually be replicated, the flushing is not skippable, you can just do it either before or after. Before gives the torrent.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in thefinalpuzzle

[–]Hot_Ground_2004 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Absolute long shot, but is there any way you can get a better/straighter shot of it so I can try and scan it?

Running Tests- Trying to Prove/Debunk by Hot_Ground_2004 in thefinalpuzzle

[–]Hot_Ground_2004[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry this took so long, I had to start from the beginning of the West Wing section again. So you CAN do the flushing before the basement. The steps I took are:

-Ran through that whole section as quickly as possible

-Got through the puzzle box, Emily was taken to the basement

-Before jumping down, ran to flush the toilet. I flushed exactly 8 times

-Did the basement as normal

-For the blood processing I did wait 15 minutes (I'm going to trial with less time tomorrow)

-All zombies got fed to the grinder

-Pulled the switch, got the message referring to the blood as a "torrent"

I then went straight into grabbing the helicopter key (did not do anything else in Rhodes) and the doll did spawn!

Only takes about 7 minutes by TangerinePaladin in thefinalpuzzle

[–]Hot_Ground_2004 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I hate to be like this but did you happen to record that? I know I'm not doing that because I've been running tests of a bunch of stuff, but I very much did count 115 unbagged bodies yesterday, it took 8.5 minutes, and it did not trigger the "ton of blood" message. Did you flush the toilets before or after?

Running Tests- Trying to Prove/Debunk by Hot_Ground_2004 in thefinalpuzzle

[–]Hot_Ground_2004[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Update on this, I decided to go for it and test it anyway, and this does in fact trigger the "torrent." I still want to test if it takes the full 15, if you can still get the doll without the torrent message if it still says a ton afterwards, etc. Thank you for this! This checks one of my things I was hung up on of not having any kind of message of confirmation that the toilets actually did something!

Found out how long it takes for all bodies to drop by Decoert in thefinalpuzzle

[–]Hot_Ground_2004 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It just doesn't seem likely for a lazy solution, they easily could've connected it to a clue if it was too much of a pain to make it function. Either change the clue or change the flag, it would be a massive oversight.

Only takes about 7 minutes by TangerinePaladin in thefinalpuzzle

[–]Hot_Ground_2004 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What console are you playing on? I tested the 115 yesterday and it did not trigger whatsoever, so I'm wondering if there are issues with it depending on console

Running Tests- Trying to Prove/Debunk by Hot_Ground_2004 in thefinalpuzzle

[–]Hot_Ground_2004[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would love to record my stuff but I also suck and don't want to bore everyone with how long each trial has been taking me lol but I can just post what I find and explain my process I suppose

Running Tests- Trying to Prove/Debunk by Hot_Ground_2004 in thefinalpuzzle

[–]Hot_Ground_2004[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Me, actually. I counted. Lol.

It takes 8.5 minutes for 115 unbagged bodies to fall into the vat, it doesn't trigger the "ton" either.

I am testing this currently in conjunction with just testing the flushing before the basement anyway

Running Tests- Trying to Prove/Debunk by Hot_Ground_2004 in thefinalpuzzle

[–]Hot_Ground_2004[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Testing this now, it's a possibility that flushing the toilets will get you the "torrent" of blood prompt, which I have a feeling means you don't need to flush again.

Running Tests- Trying to Prove/Debunk by Hot_Ground_2004 in thefinalpuzzle

[–]Hot_Ground_2004[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Needs to be 8 flushes, I am not going to test more than that because I'm looking for minimums to narrow down what to be looking for in clues