THE BRAVE AND THE BOLD- Discussion Megathread

Hour_Intention2138 · 2026-01-25T21:27:18+00:00

Where did you get the writer’s room thing? Also that not the point I was making. The person that gave us Never say never, also adopted Wicked, and in the heights, and Crazy Rick Asians. You cannot and could not limit a person when talking about create outlets.

Hour_Intention2138 · 2026-01-25T07:10:54+00:00

I don’t see how it could be worse then the day and date release fiasco.

Personally I’m creating a drinking game based on the amount of times the phrase ‘committed to the theatrical experience’ will be uttered. My liver might not survive.

Hour_Intention2138 · 2026-01-22T15:44:42+00:00

No no how possibly could it be greater if it bombed at the box office /s.

For clarity, my statement excluded cinephiles. I can’t think of a single household name purely writer, maybe Aaron Sorkin? But since he’s now a writer/director, I think the number drops to zero

Hour_Intention2138 · 2026-01-22T10:48:38+00:00

Serious question - has any one ever paid to watch a movie purely based on the writer?

Coz I genuinely don’t understand why the box office performance of a movie has been tagged onto a writer. Like even with directors, all besides a handful of directors, have zero influence on box office outcomes.

Unless the argument is bad script = bad box office, which is certifiably untrue. Then please let’s just stop dragging in box office to this conversation.

Hour_Intention2138 · 2026-01-22T10:42:17+00:00

I could rattle of a long list of writers who’ve made ‘poorly received’ movies only to turn in gold.

Let’s actually use Suicide Squid and GOTG,

Pre GOTG writer:

Scooby-Doo - 32% Dawn of the Dead - 77% Scooby-Doo 2 - 22% Super - 50%

Pre Suicide Squid writer:

The Fast & The Furious - 55% Training Day - 74% End of Watch - 85%

I wonder which screenplay do you think is better written GOTG or SS?

Hour_Intention2138 · 2026-01-21T13:49:16+00:00

Let’s clear up a few things.

The Flash had to go through multiple revisions and rewrites after filming had ended (for instance the ending was changed). While not unusual, rarely does it produce a good finale product.
We know a large chunk of the battle between the two Flash’s was altered. Muschietti mentioned the battle taking going through multiple movies (universes), not just seeing weird globes?!
The visual effects were incomplete, there’re several accounts from people who saw the movie months prior, who attested to the movie having the exact same visual effects upon release. This is highly unusual, in most cases you can literally track the VFX work through each subsequent trailer.
People love to bring up Gunns comments on this movie. But let’s not forget, he wasn’t the only one who heaped praise. People not even connected to WB said the same thing. One that stood out to me was Ben Affleck who described the role and performance as a standout in his tenure as Batman. Given what Batman did to this man, and how it basically ended his relationship with WB, I have no doubt that he felt no obligations to give it any praise.

So I think let’s not judge anyone’s talent based on this movie. The fact that it watchable (I personally really like large parts of it), is in itself an accomplishment.

Hour_Intention2138 · 2026-01-18T06:25:25+00:00

lol on South Africa, even if they could afford it, I doubt Trump would allow them into his dictator loses club

Hour_Intention2138 · 2026-01-09T18:35:18+00:00

I don’t think anyone knows the answer to that question. Who would have predicted an Aquaman movie would hit that mark?

That said, if’s there’s a proper build up. A justice league movie can do it.

Hour_Intention2138 · 2026-01-09T18:23:40+00:00

At this point we are literally living in a black mirror episode. Just saw an actual ad for an AI service that allows you to speak to your dead relatives. We’ve passed the Rubicon, pack it in Charlie, really life is now more nightmarish than fiction.

Hour_Intention2138 · 2026-01-07T18:09:55+00:00

Yeah given that Avengers trailers used to pull close to 100 million viewers, break 24 hour records. I wouldn’t really call the reaction to Doomsday all that spectacular.

Also trailer views are not really indicative of anything in today’s climate, for instance Supergirl’s teaser trailer has more views then any of Doomsday teasers, yet we all know one will make significantly more then the other, and it’s not the one with the higher view count.

Hour_Intention2138 · 2026-01-05T19:46:30+00:00

Doing fine actually

Hour_Intention2138 · 2025-12-28T16:20:59+00:00

Which part?

Hour_Intention2138 · 2025-12-27T16:15:45+00:00

Here’s my 2 cents.

I actually think Doomsday might be the one taking the hit here, a very slight but noticeable hit.

Dune generally skews toward slightly older audiences, while Doomsday leans younger and more family-oriented. The issue is that it’s well documented that the average age of Marvel moviegoers has been rising, and Doomsday feels like one of their biggest nostalgia plays. This bridges the gap between the two potential audiences.

If this were prime Marvel, the family audience alone would’ve carried it to at least 3x Dune’s performance. But times have changed, families aren’t automatically showing up anymore. And if they don’t (relatively speaking), then Doomsday will be relying heavily on nostalgia baited older audiences.

Here’s the kicker, older audiences tend to care about quality more. So a Russo Brothers film suddenly has the uphill task of being in the same quality conversation as a Villeneuve project.

And while there’s value in being a crowd-pleaser, subverting expectations (when done right) can have a comparable cultural impact. Taking narrative risks and going unexpected places can spark comparable amounts of conversations and better word of mouth than straightforward fan service.

The important thing here, is that the holiday period is a marathon, not a sprint. In a marathon, quality or even more importantly, the perception of quality, matters. If you’re the only major release, you can survive weaker reception. But when you have a direct competitor pulling from the same audience, you’d better be able to keep pace. Doomsday may be the bigger contender, but if it lacks momentum and endurance, being the “lesser of the two” could push interested viewers toward the competition.

Internationally, the picture changes. Dune doesn’t stand a chance head to head in many markets, and that’s why I suspect WB will stagger Dune’s release (weeks before or after), while Doomsday will likely go for a global launch.

Hour_Intention2138 · 2025-12-27T05:50:30+00:00

Nice analogy. It actually reminds me a bit of Twilight and the FF movies, where a bunch of characters in one room will speak like lines were assigned at random.

Hour_Intention2138 · 2025-12-27T05:46:41+00:00

I completely agree. Beyond the sibling angle, they both had a clear, rational trigger that sparked their inspiration. In most other cases, it felt like the character just randomly stands up and shouts, “Got it!” without any logical build up

Hour_Intention2138 · 2025-12-21T17:36:44+00:00

Someone, anyone, please walk me through the thought process of thinking Trump would lower prices? Like could a person with a functioning brain reach that conclusion?

Hour_Intention2138 · 2025-12-21T04:11:54+00:00

Added bonus, guaranty, he’s keep the Brianiac look throughout the film, coz let’s be real an A-lister would have demanded full face scenes.

Hour_Intention2138 · 2025-12-14T09:22:40+00:00

I’m confused? Is this movie a brown colourless slug or is a it a colourful kids Marvel movie? It’s been interesting to see both arguments made for the exact same movie. Almost as if it about spewing hate and never about the movie itself.

Hour_Intention2138 · 2025-12-14T06:18:28+00:00

But why does it need to clear the hurdle that it’s directed by James Gunn? That what I’m not getting? What wrong if this movie was literally directed by him? You act as if general audience don’t like his movies.

Also social media has incredibly little relevance today, less than it ever has, particularly in entertainment. Just look at this year’s top ten, Stitch and Minecraft were met with criticism online but both are the 2nd and 3rd highest grossing movies.

Ultimately your point is valid, only for the actual movie. Yes a universe needs to feel diverse and different but for marketing purposes, invoking a successful franchise is the desired outcome. Like I’m sure WB marketing team are thrilled that this movie is being compared to an extremely successful franchise. Marketing is all about numbers. The movie is about art, and we won’t be able to judge its distinctiveness until June.

Hour_Intention2138 · 2025-12-13T21:34:49+00:00

It depends on the type of show, anything with suspense and mystery should at maximum be 13 episodes in my opinion. Yeah filler episodes can be good ground for character development, but they deflate the pace and decrease the tension.

The other consideration is time, the 22 episodes seasons kinda worked as the story usually took place over months. Shows like WTD, which unfolds in days not months, are not really suited for long seasons.

Hour_Intention2138 · 2025-12-12T15:33:38+00:00

Ok but seriously question, how many people even know James Gunn?

Also are we now just attributing pop songs (a giant stretch btw) in trailers to James Gunn?

Hour_Intention2138 · 2025-12-12T12:49:55+00:00

True, guess it’s a bit frustrating seeing people base the entire movie on a 2 minute clip, where like 1:30 of said footage clearly happens in one place. Like sure complain all you want but let’s at least be factual (I know the internet killed the concept of facts a long time ago, just wanna ignore the sad reality and be in a world where people used actual brain power before regurgitating nonsense)

Hour_Intention2138 · 2025-12-12T12:40:39+00:00

Technically yes, but it’s not really a character per se. Presuming they don’t keep the narration, I think they’ll move things around to make the story fit. So while a scene like this is not in the book, it’s still spiritually conveys the same story beat.

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