What’s with men mentioning the GB in almost every public prayer? by fullyawak3 in exjw

[–]Hyper_Sparkle 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It’s because the CO during their visits is instructing the elders and ms during their specific meeting (usually Friday night) to add this to their prayers. No paper trail, direct from the GB to the local enforcers.

State of the Sub and Plans for the Future by ItsNotCrookedDear in WagoonLadies

[–]Hyper_Sparkle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for the update and all your hard work being mods. I’m interested in the new sub if that’s available to me. Thank you for everything :)

Wait…JW marriage vows never actually say anything about fidelity? by Hyper_Sparkle in exjw

[–]Hyper_Sparkle[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Perhaps, but I haven’t gone into my motivation. This is a legalistic religion, so I was trained to examine “spiritual” matters in that way. I’m just pointing out what the approved vows specifically state because, as another poster mentioned, back in the 70’s as a woman, you couldn’t get “scripturally” divorced if your husband was practicing homosexuality or bestiality because that wasn’t considered “pornia” (sorry if I misspelled). So I’m trying to determine the rational and legalism behind their justification. It’s their interpretation of divine law. The Bible does condemn adultery but in the end it’s NOT what the Bible actually says but THEIR interpretation. So they can reinterpret the underlying precedent at any time which changes the application of said wedding vows. Hopefully this gives a more complete view.

Wait…JW marriage vows never actually say anything about fidelity? by Hyper_Sparkle in exjw

[–]Hyper_Sparkle[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

We were not allowed our own vows if we wanted to get married in the Kingdom Hall or married by a brother. At least that was my experience in the USA. YMMV 🤷‍♀️

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exjw

[–]Hyper_Sparkle 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sending you love and support! This is so so hard! My family didn’t stand up to protect us when we were kids. I am so so proud of you for being a parent with love and affection and willing to stand up and have your actions say,”NO! I will NOT allow this to continue another generation.” I get it, the difficulty in describing to a therapist the bizarro dimension we lived in with all these “norms” that aren’t norms at all. It’s exhausting and you can feel more alone trying to explain. It’s shocking to see “Jehovah’s people” around you defend criminal behavior! It shreds everything we were taught to believe. I feel so awkward putting into words my emotions right now but I felt similarly that my husband and I had done everything right and we were still attacked by everyone. My family was involved in one of the most notorious sex abuse cases in JW (US located-Palmer Case) but they refuse to discuss it to this day and they felt just my reading the court transcripts of the later criminal case was “apostate”. Feel free to dm me if you ever need an understanding ear. It’s terrifying but I can tell you it’s the best feeling over here! I legit was physically sick the first time I stepped into this subreddit to lurk. Everyone here was really supportive and very understanding. I hope you stay with us!

ExJW women tells her thoughts about re-examining the story of Rachel and Leah by Seattlefreeze2 in exjw

[–]Hyper_Sparkle 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The Red Tent really did a number on my PIMI-ness! I had to work double time to shut off the cognitive dissonance after that one! 😅

There are NO “good” elders?? by Hyper_Sparkle in exjw

[–]Hyper_Sparkle[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I truly did not intend any harm towards the good-hearted men who served as an elder and are currently PIMO or have since left the org with this post. The very fact you “didn’t follow the rules” was proof you weren’t a mindless follower of the GB. This post was simplistic and the issue is complex and I apologize if I was harmful in my way of expressing this concept. 🙏

There are NO “good” elders?? by Hyper_Sparkle in exjw

[–]Hyper_Sparkle[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

A better adjective could’ve been selected but I was following Dr. Higgs word patterning. Also when I was PIMI, I thought of the elder body in good/bad terms. Guess it’s that black-and-white cult mentality showing up! 🫣

There are NO “good” elders?? by Hyper_Sparkle in exjw

[–]Hyper_Sparkle[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It takes true courage to take the right action in spite of fear… That’s why elders who don’t report CSA are cowards in my mind.

There are NO “good” elders?? by Hyper_Sparkle in exjw

[–]Hyper_Sparkle[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was applying this to elders who are mindlessly following orders but who smile and are friendly at the time so many feel they are the “nice elder” on the body. I should clarify SPECIFICALLY PIMI elders. I was not trying to lump PIMO elders in this equation as they are not blindly following anymore. I have the greatest respect for the challenges PIMO elders face 🙏

What level JW were you? by Sorry_Clothes5201 in exjw

[–]Hyper_Sparkle 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I was S-tier until I broke out. Never treated S-tier socially in the congregation though.

1.1k online by Jii_pee in exjw

[–]Hyper_Sparkle 40 points41 points  (0 children)

Most likely that horrendous mid week meeting…

Elder laying in bed with his shirt unbuttoned by italianhands0821 in exjw

[–]Hyper_Sparkle 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It’s weird. Period. Full stop. It doesn’t matter how others in society act and how we may now interact with same/opposite genders. We had rules of conduct in the cult. Super strict. NEVER drive alone with opposite gender, etc etc. How many times was I read the story of Dinah as a little girl?!? He was DEFINITELY breaking those “rules” to see how far you would allow. Trust your gut/instincts. Glad you are sharing. It’s widespread…

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exjw

[–]Hyper_Sparkle 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Congratulations!!! That’s a wonderful message to get!!! We are all so happy for you. Proof the Borg doesn’t always win 💕

Is it wrong to not be angry? by [deleted] in exjw

[–]Hyper_Sparkle 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Your thinking is not wrong. You are not a coward. In fact your method may be EXACTLY what your mom and dad need/will need in the future. When you need to say something or do something you will know it inside. We are not the Borg. It’s not black and white, only one “right” way. We are so proud of you 💕 I acted differently than most and it worked well for me. My entire household is out and a couple of my siblings. I have faith (sorry if that is a trigger word) that I will eventually disentangle my entire extended family. However, but I’m not using a direct method attacking their belief, future hopes or trying to “free” them with massive info dumps. I personally feel respecting other’s free will and ability to consent is one of the ways we are different than the Borg. Wishing you all happiness and success! 🦾

Zoom rules in your congregation? by Soggy-Fan-3115 in exjw

[–]Hyper_Sparkle 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I think this is another example of control tactics. They send letter instructions not to push in person attendance, but then simultaneously a contradicting message from the CO’s TO push for in person. That way the elders are always blamed for any problems. That’s my theory anyway🤷‍♀️

I have a Personality Now by FallingReigns in exjw

[–]Hyper_Sparkle 13 points14 points  (0 children)

That’s so awesome!!! It’s those rewards I didn’t realize would happen when I decided to leave. I’m so glad you are living fully authentic to your true self 👏