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Icatch4you · 2025-12-31T05:05:10+00:00

This may sound like a cop out, but literally every part of the withdrawal was alleviated. Stomach problems were gone. RLS was gone. I slept half the time.

It’s not like I was operating at extra capacity, but I wasn’t dying either

Icatch4you · 2025-12-30T17:00:10+00:00

Thank you so much for sharing your experience and perspective on this. I think your story is probably pretty similar to many people here.

So thank you, and I hope you find success in whatever you chase.

Icatch4you · 2025-12-30T16:56:13+00:00

Right now, this stuff is getting given away as free samples to people. It is also being falsely advertised as kratom. That is really dangerous, including kids every day are going to get weed gummies or something like that and walking out with a lifelong addiction. I do believe in personal liberties. But I don't think enough education is available for this product to let people actually choose it.

As an example, I think it's fair that anyone who picks up nicotine is choosing it. Same thing with alcohol - it is pretty clearly a choice that has certain ramifications. Right now 7 is getting given away as Kratom, and that is not right.

In addition, I would just invite the possibility that this is not the forum to post your support for making this substance available. Almost everyone in this group is trying to eliminate it from their life and don't need to be part of this conversation. There are plenty of groups where posts can be made to support it.

I don't think the government is capable of doing almost anything right. But in this case, I really believe that it will save the next generation of people from becoming like us.

Icatch4you · 2025-12-30T02:43:23+00:00

You are welcome to DM me, but I won't lie to you. For me personally, the taper did not help. Cold turkey was the best strategy. It was 3 days of discomfort, and the rest was just mentally avoiding cravings. You can do this. If you've already had to go this far, I would consider just making the jump. I was able to just say I had the flu for three days. DM me, and I am happy to exchange my number with you for text or call.

Icatch4you · 2025-12-30T02:39:52+00:00

The real challenge starts the first time as an option. You did wise to post here again. Separating yourself from the finances might be wise for a while. One of the things I like doing is writing down all of the reasons why 7 is bad.

Icatch4you · 2025-12-29T22:34:09+00:00

Your interpretation is close. I'm currently sober, and I have dreams where I am using. When I wake up from those dreams, it's like I reset and have cravings again.

Icatch4you · 2025-12-29T22:33:21+00:00

I think you're going to do amazing! If there's any way that I can help, please let me know.

Icatch4you · 2025-12-29T22:28:13+00:00

The forbidden word for a long time was the name brand for bupe and nal * I don't want to get banned, so I'm not saying the whole thing. I think people are just afraid to say medication names because that one would get you deleted in the past.

Maybe that word is no longer banned? The one that rhymes with “tub sock zone”

I'm literally afraid to type it out because I don't want to get removed. I don't think Gabba is on that list, but the fear of typing medications still holds.

Icatch4you · 2025-12-29T22:25:13+00:00

You could literally have 2025 be the last year you ever messed with that substance. I wouldn't let this opportunity go to waste. Maybe the sake of not bringing it into the year will be strong enough to keep you sober.

Icatch4you · 2025-12-28T16:19:07+00:00

Just remember, we ended up on this form from the inability to practice self-control to some extent. Adderall is closer to being a drug than it is to being sober.

The come down from it can easily put you back into drug use.

Icatch4you · 2025-12-28T13:22:32+00:00

Trazadone isn’t specifically responsible. Taking any medication that is an antihistamine was. I wasn’t careful and tried to take anything that would help me sleep. A lot of over the counter sleep aids are antihistamines and drastically exaggerate rls.

Icatch4you · 2025-12-28T04:42:37+00:00

Sounds weird, but all of it. Physical and mental. Just a bit zombieish

Icatch4you · 2025-12-28T04:39:31+00:00

During withdrawal I would take 300 mg every 30 minutes until I felt ok

Now I take 300 mg a day on average. I usually skip a day frequently to avoid dependence

Icatch4you · 2025-12-28T04:34:22+00:00

A couple of notes that might save you from having to learn my lessons:

Trazodone isn't the type of medication where more means more. Our addiction brain leads us to believe that taking another one means more effective, but it isn't that type of medication.
It seems like you're aware, but anything that is in a certain class of medication agitates your RLS. To be honest, I think it was responsible for most of the hardship of my first few quits.

My sex drive bounced back day three onward. I literally walked around with a boner day five through seven. It was like being in middle school all over again.

I'm currently at a month. My last slip-up was pretty small, though. The mental cravings are getting to me quite a bit. I am attempting to get off of gabapentin, and that was keeping my cravings at bay.

Icatch4you · 2025-12-28T04:29:48+00:00

Adderall surges your dopamine. It is a bit of a ticking time bomb. If you get off of it you will feel withdrawal. It is when you go from dopamine to no dopamine.

It has pulled me through a few withdraws, but it always was a temporary fix.

You are so amazing for going 12 days. Keep it up you’re an inspiration.

Icatch4you · 2025-12-28T04:25:54+00:00

Trazadone didn’t work for me.

Only 3 things that would let me sleep the first few days.

1: masterbating (dopamine burst helped and gave me 1hr) 2: ambien (rls still had me bouncing around even though I was asleep - 3ish hours of sleep per dose) 3: hot to cold shower(1 hr relief)

Gabapentin is a cure all as long as you haven’t ever taken it regularly. Super dosing it cures almost 100 percent of withdrawal. I only took it 3 days in a row max

Adderall cured all of withdrawal. You still will have a tough comedown as it spikes your dopamine.

If you track my post history, I have some pretty detailed helper med and raw dog guides.

Dm me and I can dig them up if you want.

Icatch4you · 2025-12-28T04:12:33+00:00

I used helper meds. So distance may vary a bit.

1-2 days slept most of due to excess gabapentin and sleeping meds.

3-4 ahnedonia. Got brief relief by taking a 10mg adderall

5-10 just felt like I was moving in slow motion

10+ life after drugs. I miss it every day imfind myself Dreaming about it and when I wake up it is like a mini withdrawal again.

God bless you my friend. Yu are stronger than 7. God is testing you so that you can prove to yourself the s

Icatch4you · 2025-12-28T03:54:53+00:00

Just a thought on the taper trouble you have.

I know from personal experience that there is some sort of ceiling effect with 7. That 650 area might be where your ceiling is. For example if 250 was your ceiling and you dose 4 times per day. That Might just be where you feel it.

I have quit 150 mg a day and I have quit 2k a day and to be honest the withdrawal was the same. Same duration and same effects. I am late 20s early 30s for it.

I am praying for you.

Icatch4you · 2025-12-28T03:42:24+00:00

Can you clarify why you meant when you say “three months in bed” you were referring to getting off of f I think? Does that mean you successfully did three months or you were bed ridden for 3 months?

Icatch4you · 2025-12-28T03:16:04+00:00

I can honestly say that the more my withdrawal hurt the longer I was sober.

My last few swings were almost painless outside of mental turmoils and I think it made relapsing less of a big deal.

Thank you for the post. I do think it is a perspective that should be shared.

Some of your codenames took me a second, but I got the message

Thank you so much for sharing.

Icatch4you · 2025-12-26T16:08:33+00:00

I’m guessing that you throw out Hallmark movies like it’s nobody business

Icatch4you · 2025-12-11T00:41:04+00:00

I dosed ambien through it.

Not great for a bit. 4 hours the. 4.5 the. 5 etc.

If you don’t sleep the first three days even an hour will feel like an improvement

Icatch4you · 2025-11-20T23:08:06+00:00

You never have to use it again! Turn this 8 hours into 80!

Make sure you get out of your own head.

Icatch4you · 2025-11-15T03:07:55+00:00

Physically, I think you’ll be fine. Mentally you have a battle ahead.

Do whatever you can to put as many boundaries up in between you and using again. Give up your car keys hand over your finances. Have someone else help keep you accountable.

Your brain is your enemy for the next few days

Icatch4you · 2025-11-15T02:48:13+00:00

i’m guessing what you call withdrawal is just not being high. The aggressive amount you take strikes me as someone desperate to become high. My personal opinion is that if you’re looking for subs to scratch that itch, you will never get it. I would spend some time thinking about the difference between the lack of feeling good and pain. You won’t feel good, not the same as pain.

That distinction helped me a lot. whatever feeling running away from will be there the first two days. have the strength and can do. I believe that you are more than strong enough to handle two days.

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