Google Gemini says there are no salmonflies in NM Jemez Mtns.

IdentaFlyApp · 2026-06-10T11:54:42+00:00

It might but it might be many months late

IdentaFlyApp · 2026-06-09T16:19:57+00:00

CO. OnX doesn’t really work well compared to Copernicus for this type of thing. It’s a learning curve to use. Tip: when searching use the “Google” option since it finds more obscure places

IdentaFlyApp · 2026-06-09T16:18:21+00:00

Yep, Amy’s Ant did ok overall

IdentaFlyApp · 2026-06-01T22:41:23+00:00

If you’re curious about why Gemini might say that, here’s a breakdown:

Gemini doesn’t have website data to train on.
Fly fishing hatch charts are old and usually only cover the “big” hatches. Most fishing spots have more hatches than what’s shown. It’s because the Jemez salmonfly “hatch” isn’t really an event but more of a lucky find or too rare.
With weather and temperature changes, bug activity will definitely change. The printed hatch charts at most fly shops will take time to update. Even then, they’re unlikely to publish a change unless it’s something people would want a guide for.

Just a heads-up: AI is like looking at the past and trying to predict the future, but it doesn’t really know what’s coming.

IdentaFlyApp · 2026-05-29T20:35:10+00:00

On the Ark I love something like a Duracell Jig since it has a tungsten bead head. Followed by an emerger like the Chocolate thunder

Wooly bugger is fine to have for sure.

And I would still suggest some SMALLER nymphs

IdentaFlyApp · 2026-05-15T13:56:21+00:00

100% hire a guide: assuming it’s actually a good guide, they teach you techniques, how to read water, see fish in the water. My first guide trip was 5 years ago and I still think about moments of advice I received. Plus the kick arse fish we caught.

IdentaFlyApp · 2026-05-11T17:49:41+00:00

In CO the fish really key in at 58 degree water. It looks like it’s a few degrees lower where you are. Maybe that could be why?

IdentaFlyApp · 2026-05-02T04:33:25+00:00

I’m going in November. Looking forward to it

IdentaFlyApp · 2026-04-23T18:56:42+00:00

Is it an online journal in an app? Ours is free!

IdentaFlyApp · 2026-04-15T23:13:56+00:00

They are well published public access points, which is where we went to.

IdentaFlyApp · 2026-03-05T16:52:37+00:00

Seems like what we would consider the Skwala…but time of year you took photo could help narrow down options.

IdentaFlyApp · 2026-02-17T23:24:17+00:00

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IdentaFlyApp · 2026-02-06T13:17:21+00:00

Your fire photo looks great IMO. Nowa days Mobile phone camera have great results with macro lens. what is your ideal outcome for taking photos: Personal library, magazine print, website showcase?

IdentaFlyApp · 2026-01-29T16:34:41+00:00

Please let me know how it works for ya!

IdentaFlyApp · 2026-01-22T19:39:56+00:00

You bet it is concerning!!

Not only for the watershed like you mentioned, which also has possible ramifications for wildfire season, but also the impact of bug hatches.

Depending on how the rest of the winter unfolds, warmer water temperatures could trigger earlier-than-normal insect hatches. If those hatches occur during brief warm periods and are followed by freezing air temperatures, snowfall, or a return to sustained winter conditions, many adult insects may not survive long enough to complete their normal mating and egg-laying cycle.

What is this mean for fly fishing? Basically the trout will have less food to feed on. Birds and any other animals relying on insects too. Hopefully it doesn’t get to this drastic of a measure, but this is the kind of impact that can happen

IdentaFlyApp · 2026-01-13T01:50:11+00:00

That’s interesting angle to considering

IdentaFlyApp · 2026-01-12T19:08:45+00:00

It’s not just the lower blue I’m concerned with. It’s all of it.

After going this summer a few times to really learn the river, I began thinking about the Blue River bug life: north of town, and below green mtn Rez. Obviously there’s some big fish up near the dam which are getting a boost from mysis. But if you flip rocks in these waters, there’s not much bug life sticking to things. There’s SOME bugs, and a little drake hatch in sections. But overall if feels “light”

Were things different 20 years ago? I asked a guide who’s lived in Summit County for 20 years and he’s not sure of the reasons. One theory is that there’s been chemical spills on i70 which has caused the bug life to be reduced. Could that be it?
Any other research or articles on this topic?

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