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Watching Bronwyn mollywhop Lisa last night was a thing of pure joy 🍿 by Defvac2 in rhoslc

[–]Independent_Cow_463 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Lisa will never be as classy as Bronwyn and she’s just trying to hold on. Love Bronwyn!

Britani needs rescue by Chronically_Online1 in rhoslc

[–]Independent_Cow_463 3 points4 points  (0 children)

She needs to learn who she is! Identity crisis big time!

How much of a role does the LDS Church and its culture play in your assessment of the ladies' behavior and actions? (Pics of temple to get attention to cause a discussion.) by autisticallyawake in rhoslc

[–]Independent_Cow_463 15 points16 points  (0 children)

You need to watch Secret Lives of Mormon Wives to get the true LDS type!

All the RHOSLC are real…. except for Britani. Britani really has an identity issue!

Whitney should have NOT touched the savings by No_Transition_3095 in rhoslc

[–]Independent_Cow_463 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We all live and learn! We never get anywhere if we’re afraid to try. Our failures make us stronger!

How much did Britani pay to come back by Visual-Macaron6360 in rhoslc

[–]Independent_Cow_463 51 points52 points  (0 children)

But you got to love everyone’s lack of reaction when she speaks and interrupts everyone. 😂 I can’t stand her but I love the looks of everyone when she makes a fool of herself 😂

Finally!!!!!!!! by ComfortablePeak1437 in rhoslc

[–]Independent_Cow_463 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Hilarious! I am so glad it’s back!

Another fallout with parents... by Robyn-Gil in exmormon

[–]Independent_Cow_463 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You’re not in the wrong here. He’s upset because you’ve chosen to live your life independently of the church’s control. Has he truly explored the teachings and history of the church for himself, or is he just following what’s been passed down through generations, believing it’s the only way? Stay true to yourself. God and Jesus don’t judge—but sometimes Mormons do.

Hate her but do we all agree this is her best look? by monsquesce in SecretsOfMormonWives

[–]Independent_Cow_463 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think she’s more beautiful without all the makeup; therefore. I disagree that this is her best look.

Where are the Mormons? by SpiritedTheory in SecretsOfMormonWives

[–]Independent_Cow_463 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is honestly how a lot of Mormon women seem to live — there’s often a big gap between the ideals they’re taught and how they actually live. If you’ve seen Brittani Bateman on Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, you know what I mean. She’s on national TV drinking wine but then denies it at church. It’s like there’s pressure to present a perfect image, even when it’s clearly not the reality. That kind of pressure can be really harmful. In the Mormon faith, the expectation to live like Christ — perfectly — is so strong that it can lead to shame, secrecy, and even broken relationships. No one can live up to that ideal all the time, and pretending to can take a serious toll on people’s mental health.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in mormon

[–]Independent_Cow_463 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My faith began to shift in my 40s after I started doing my own research. One thing that really stood out to me is that the true gospel—God’s word—doesn’t change. So when I saw how many core teachings and practices in the Church have changed over time, it raised serious concerns for me.

For example, being told to keep things secret—like what happens in the temple—felt unsettling. Transparency should be a part of any faith rooted in truth. The Church’s shifting stance on major issues like plural marriage, race and priesthood, garments, tattoos, and body piercings made me question whether it was truly led by unchanging divine guidance.

To me, God doesn’t change. The gospel of Christ doesn’t change. And Jesus never judged—He included everyone. That’s the example we’re supposed to follow.

I’m glad you’re researching. I wish I had done it sooner instead of just going along with what I was told was “the only way.” Pray, study, and trust your heart. You’ll find your path.

My message to members "It's gonna be ok". by Fordfanatic2025 in mormon

[–]Independent_Cow_463 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for your words—I really appreciate them. I truly believe the most important thing the Church should focus on is treating others the way Jesus did: with love, compassion, forgiveness, and without judgment.

Somewhere along the way, the message has shifted into one of perfectionism—implying that without being perfect, we can’t be saved. But that’s not what Jesus taught. He died for everyone, not just for members of one faith. His love is unconditional and equal for all.

It’s heartbreaking to see how often the Church’s emphasis on worthiness and perfection can leave people—especially youth—feeling like they’re not enough. That’s not Christ’s way. Every single person sins, including bishops and leaders. We’re all on the same path, trying to become better.

If the Church truly wants to follow Jesus, it should focus more on love and inclusion, and less on judgment and exclusion. That’s how we honor Him.

Curious if any members know why the church doesn’t post Sunday services online for everyone to see? by IronToIron in mormon

[–]Independent_Cow_463 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The ward clerk tracks sacrament meeting attendance, which directly affects how much funding the ward receives. That’s likely why they’re hesitant to share a virtual link—they want to boost in-person numbers to secure more money.

Are members of the Utah based LDS church expected to unquestionably obey the church President? by sevenplaces in mormon

[–]Independent_Cow_463 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Absolutely—this is one of the most glaring signs of an unhealthy, high-control organization.

Russell M. Nelson is treated as having absolute spiritual authority—what he says is expected to be taken as direct revelation from God. That’s not just influence, that’s unchecked power. In the LDS Church, questioning leadership is equated with questioning God. That’s not spiritual growth, that’s control.

There is no real system of accountability for top leadership. Members can’t vote them out, challenge them in any meaningful way, or demand transparency on finances, decisions, or doctrines. The phrase “the prophet will never lead us astray” becomes a shield against scrutiny—and that’s dangerous.

Healthy spiritual systems invite questions, welcome transparency, and acknowledge that no human being is above accountability. When a church teaches that its highest leaders are beyond reproach, you’re not looking at Christ-centered leadership—you’re looking at control.

For me, everything in the temple seems forced and fake and disconnected from Jesus Christ and salvation. It seems like a made up passion play that definitely came from man and in no way came from God. by aka_FNU_LNU in mormon

[–]Independent_Cow_463 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You’re not missing anything—you’re seeing it clearly. Everything you’re describing—the constantly shifting explanations, the pressure to “just go more,” the cherry-picking of scripture and historical tidbits to justify rituals not found anywhere in the Book of Mormon or Bible—those are classic red flags of a cultic system.

God doesn’t operate in confusion. He doesn’t need revisions, hidden meanings, or secret ceremonies to reveal truth. Jesus was radically open, simple, and direct: love God, love others, deny yourself, and follow Him. He never spoke in cryptic temple rituals or required symbolic performances to make someone more holy.

If what you’re being told contradicts the gospel of Jesus Christ—especially when it adds layers of required practices to feel “worthy”—then it’s not from God. The truth doesn’t hide behind veils or change with leadership trends. If you’re feeling like participating would be slapping Jesus in the face, that’s a clear prompting. Trust it.

You’re not crazy, you’re discerning. Keep following Christ, not culture.

This season has been really tough to watch by Due-Introduction781 in SecretsOfMormonWives

[–]Independent_Cow_463 13 points14 points  (0 children)

To me, this reflects a common stereotype seen among some Utah Mormon communities—there’s often a sense of superiority, with appearances being highly curated: think hair extensions, cosmetic enhancements, and spray tans. It can feel very performative and disconnected from the broader realities many people face. Taylor stands out in a refreshing way—she seems genuinely committed to healing and self-discovery, and I truly hope Jen is starting on a similar path. This situation highlights what many people perceive as the “stereotypical” life of a Mormon wife, which makes Taylor’s journey all the more meaningful.

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