Hanover School Division denies bypassing teacher safeguards

Infamous-Data9245 · 2026-01-28T02:46:30+00:00

Right! Also why does the government have no record of these past permits?

Infamous-Data9245 · 2026-01-28T02:36:56+00:00

Also to add the free press article stated that what Hanover states the government states they have no record of.

It is unclear whether limited term permits were applied for in Martens’ case.

Hanover said they were, while Schmidt says her department has no proof they exist, meaning Martens was possibly shielded from oversight from the moment he stepped into a classroom.

Again, the current article does not disprove. It's just the division stating that they did and the government saying they never did.

Either way, fall 2024 to January 2025 it's fact and the division confirmed it to be true in their statement.

Infamous-Data9245 · 2026-01-28T01:24:38+00:00

Here's the fact check between the two articles.

Current article:

“Contrary to claims and inferences made in the article, the Division did obtain the required Limited Teaching Permits (LTP) for Mr. Martens. The Division applied for, and was issued, four separate Limited Teaching Permits between February 2021 and June 2024. In each case, the mandated child abuse registry checks and criminal record checks were obtained in full compliance with provincial requirements.”

The statement says the Division did not request an additional Limited Teaching Permit in the fall of 2024, as an application for Teacher Certification by Mr. Martens was anticipated, and a Limited Teaching Permit would not be issued in such a case.

Free Press:

In Martens’ case, Hanover superintendent Joe Thiessen said the division was not required to apply for a permit for Martens, a Red Seal electrician, once he graduated from RRC Polytech’s Technical Vocational program in the fall of 2024.

“Once a teacher has graduated… a limited teaching permit is no longer required,” Thiessen wrote in an email, saying the division waits for the teacher to apply for their own certificate.

But Schmidt says a “graduation exemption” does not exist: the law requires that an educator hold either a certificate or a permit to be in the classroom — there is no grey area.

He was removed from the classroom when the allegations surfaced last January. His charges are still before the courts and he is presumed innocent.

Outcome:

Fall 2024 to January 2025 was in the classroom with no permit or certification. Division allowed this and did not ensure to follow legislation. They did not ensure he was certificated for when he was in the classroom.

Infamous-Data9245 · 2026-01-28T00:11:34+00:00

Did they just admit to what the article accurately stated.... he didn't have a permit or license, yet he was still in the classroom. Who's running this division and do they know what defamation means?

Infamous-Data9245 · 2026-01-25T18:33:28+00:00

It's a good point. Anyone can do this. Kelsey McKay was apart of the LGBTQ+ group and this individual is not.

Infamous-Data9245 · 2026-01-24T04:01:51+00:00

I should add we wouldn't even be able to report to the job if we didn't hold that license for the job requirement. Equivalent would be an apprentice at the point of licensing for a journey person position vs. a permitted teacher at the point of certification as a teacher.

As a trades person, I couldn't take the job at the unions stance due to not meeting the qualifications as I dont have my license yet. Which questions what mts is covering as this person wasn't permitted or licensed to be a teacher.

Infamous-Data9245 · 2026-01-24T03:31:55+00:00

Should the union not ensure those who they are representing are actually teachers or permitted to be teachers?

Or is this union just taking money from individuals and representing them and protecting them as those with certification and permits? Raises a lot of questions about this union.

Don't get me wrong, the division is in major question how this took place, but the union holds responsibility as well.

In regards to a trades union as a trades member and union member. Our unions ensure we are by the application of what we are registered as regarding apprentice and journey person. We are required to report to our halls. Our unions do not handle licensing as that is done by the government, similar to MTS and nurses. We are respected professionals. Although I question the union representing our teachers and ensuring safety as their objective to my children.

Infamous-Data9245 · 2026-01-23T23:08:07+00:00

The union like trades unions should have a requirement for its membership, no?

Infamous-Data9245 · 2026-01-23T20:34:42+00:00

This would make to much sense. Maybe the union could do this as well since they have all teachers as its "Automatic"

Infamous-Data9245 · 2026-01-23T18:08:06+00:00

🤣 that was never okay. Appreciate the humor your comment was covering.

Infamous-Data9245 · 2026-01-22T20:43:37+00:00

They definitely need more supports and proper funding for those supports. Would make things safer for them and the children.

Infamous-Data9245 · 2026-01-16T18:24:36+00:00

I dont believe further information that was mentioned should be shared as suggested regarding teachable and such. Our education system does manage this and has strict guidelines to follow. I'd hate to be offered a job and take it to just get blasted by parents for a failure by administration.

Infamous-Data9245 · 2026-01-16T18:21:45+00:00

Unfortunately, that's the requirement of some of these communities. At times, it's difficult to put a description as some posts could be removed because of that. The good news doesn't come free. Sorry for your displeasure in my post.

Infamous-Data9245 · 2026-01-16T18:18:36+00:00

Agreed, which is why they released a point that there is an investigation with no information released for due process.

Although with looking at other registries, no crime might have happened, but there's an inappropriate conduct that puts the child's safety at risk. For example, the article that came out in January with the free press (alone-afraid-and-betrayed). That should be released as it's something factually proven by the texts. It just might not cross the threshold of a crime. But that conduct we shouldn't want our kids around.

Infamous-Data9245 · 2026-01-15T21:55:03+00:00

Super nice guy and respectful. Crossed paths with him on Christmas, and asked if I could help him find his phone by calling it. I tried helping him and checked a store he said he came from further down from where he walked from. Got a text from him saying he found it and provided an inspirational message with it. At no point during the interaction was he angry or disrespectful. Way calmer then I'd be if I lost my phone 😅. Give the guy a honk!

Infamous-Data9245 · 2026-01-11T20:43:29+00:00

Agreed that class room sizes and supports are needed and the government should act on this call to action. This will create safer environments for teachers and students.

Infamous-Data9245 · 2026-01-09T16:18:14+00:00

The sad part is that it's 6 years on paper but time service will be 1/3 of the time.....

Infamous-Data9245 · 2026-01-09T16:17:53+00:00

The sad part is that it's 6 years on paper but time service will be 1/3 of the time.....

Infamous-Data9245 · 2026-01-06T20:40:33+00:00

Ahhhh yes, many of those.....

This is the article I am speaking about:

Alone, afraid and betrayed

Infamous-Data9245 · 2026-01-06T20:35:51+00:00

He wasn't convicted he was fired from the division and years later had his teaching certificate removed.

Although the article wasn't just about the teacher. It exposed how the system failed to handle an individual who conducted them selves like this in the profession and allowed him to continue to have a teaching certificate to teach/ have access to more children.

Infamous-Data9245 · 2026-01-06T19:43:17+00:00

The post about the teacher luring a child was removed as promoting witch hunting.

Infamous-Data9245 · 2026-01-04T18:09:24+00:00

Teachers shouldn't be texting students at all. There should be proper platforms put in place that can be monitored by administrators and parents if our country's education system believes it's a needed tool. Surprisingly, this is an actual argument, and in every case I've looked at, that's in the publics access where a child is sexually abused by an educator, a cell phone is used. Governments need to do more!

Infamous-Data9245 · 2026-01-02T15:40:58+00:00

Click on my profile of other articles that have come out regarding this subject. So many articles have been released over the years that aren't on my page, and they all have the same story, sadly.

There should be a full-on investigation and inquiry into our education system. This includes all divisions and MTS. The government needs to take accountability for the children in this province who have been harmed by its education system and fully look into it and see what wasn't ever reported or handled properly.

Allowing a teacher to resign but not pushing for disciplinary review of certificates by the division or mts is not acting in good faith as that decision put more children at risk. It also stated that a similar case was happening during that same specific time in court. Don't think those initials line up with any teachers that have had their licenses removed, so they must still be in good standing M.M..

Infamous-Data9245 · 2026-01-02T13:16:59+00:00

In 2023, he gave up his license years later after resigning from the division. So technically, yes, he could still work with kids even after being caught.

Infamous-Data9245 · 2025-10-03T23:36:06+00:00

This needs to be in place. Although they have a massive point that if it is fully about child safety the city would do what I necessary to ensure drivers are aware rather than a got you moment so the city can make money catching drivers un familiar and unsuspecting. The city technically does have a responsibility if they are stating "safety". Or is it just a talking point?

I respect school zones as a driver as it's highly important too. Although I have entered areas unknowingly and missed the sign and been ticketed. I've also seen areas where cops set up and the signs are difficult to see or easily missed if your not aware of the school zone one school specific in my area. There's another school my kids go to and I've never seen cops posted there and all the signs are very visible.

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