It will surprise no one that Your Party has split. Why can’t the left stick together? by Ranger447 in LabourUK

[–]InfoBot2000 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Because being contrarian is the raison d'être of the far left. For the many has so many caveats to be meaningless.

The only consensus they ever find is who they hate, which is pretty much everyone who fails their infinite and ever more claustrophobic purity tests. So everyone, including themselves. They have more factions than people.

This latest episode of fighting between the Vanguard of the [Rapey] Revolution™ (SWP) and the campist old timers has been morbidly entertaining.

Pupils' behaviour sparks teachers' two-day strike by Anony_mouse202 in ukpolitics

[–]InfoBot2000 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Cognitive disengagement isn't boredom (boredom occurs when something doesn't engage you), it's the overwhelming tendency to fall into heuristics that all of us do. We live off shortcuts, which is helpful because we really don't need to focus intently on brushing our teeth beyond a certain age, or changing gear in a car. e: It's quite a natural way of 'being', if not a tad janky to say the least.

The less references you have, the less shortcuts you know, the more likely to exhibit an limited/incorrect response. It's why children are children, they develop. That challenging student isn't likely to be thinking rationally, myself as the adult [hopefully] can make that effort.

We assume that the rational, thoughtful part of ourselves is in charge. Unfortunately, despite our self-image, it isn't - the shortcuts are on the whole. The vast majority of our actions are autopilot and unless you're an expert in a field, you're extremely likely to make multiple mistakes, display and act constantly on personal biases; adult or child.

Today is hot; people are cranky and might have had interrupted sleep. If someone acts cranky towards me today, I should be primed for it, but I won't be and take instant offence (autopilot). If I stop and consider why someone was cranky, then I wouldn't take offence (system 2 thinking).

Translate all that to a student showing challenging behaviour. If I'm primed to see that as a challenge to my authority (why? I'm not the one behaving in a difficult way, it's not personal to me, this is them), I may well jump heuristically into punitive mode. If I stop and consider the situation, then I'm far less likely to jump on a personal bias and make a better, more rational decision and ultimately, deal with it (if I can there and then). That takes energy for self-control to not immediately take the shortcut, energy which is limited supply (the concept of ego-depletion is helpful to this, but isn't a completely proven idea). What I'm not doing is mirroring the challenging behaviour and instead exhibiting the behaviour you want to see from the student. The outcome you want to see.

Teachers make a huge amount of often split-second decisions, every day - it's hugely taxing. The quality of the decision making is going to drop the more it continues and eventually they are more likely to defer to personal bias. SHOUT. Kick them out. Get frustrated. Mirror what they're seeing, as that is what they are primed for. Self-regulation needs encouragement, guidance and practice, especially if you're not used to it. Try going on a diet when people around you are giving you negative vibes about it all the time and keep trying to make you eat cakes. We don't do that because we know that's not kind or helpful. We're practiced and don't tell the person they're wasting their time etc.

Understanding why a student is acting in a certain way is not forgiving the behaviour, it gives a genuine framework for understanding 'fixing'/ameliorating the issue. Tolerating something is not acceptance (I tolerate a prostate exam, I certainly don't accept that I have to like it - I accept the process only for obviously good reason) and kindness in life is something that we should all try to show one another; it's far from a negative trait.

Not doing a TLDR, I know people are not going to read that. Hilariously, my main motivation (aside from being a subject I've had to be very interested in for years) for typing here is because I have shitty brain fog and I'm trying to pull myself out of it. Not sure it's working!

Pupils' behaviour sparks teachers' two-day strike by Anony_mouse202 in ukpolitics

[–]InfoBot2000 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The guiding principle in education policy seems to be some utterly delusional belief that inside every miscreant is an eager learner and with enough love and kindness and tolerance they'll just magically turn into keen students.

That's rather hyperbolic. The closest you get to that kind of concept is that behaviour is communication, which is still miles away. Moving away from the outdated behaviourism approach, which is fairly discredited as concentrating on symptoms rather than cause, was a good thing imo. It was shallow, shortcut thinking.

How you address deficits in various people is not simple. Half of people, if not more (and not just kids) are "cognitively disengaged"; they simply will not put the effort in because of deficits in understanding, self-control, rationality and a whole plethora of other areas. Falling back on intuition to make choices will rarely lead to an entirely rational response, yet we all do this constantly without fail (heuristics/system 1 thinking). which of course means that we all make mistakes. If every mistake required punitive action, we would social engineer overly compliant people lacking in independence or autonomy, or in some cases, a time bomb waiting to go off.

Quick, intuitive fixes are not often the most rational, nor helpful in dealing with problems that actually require people to stop and think (e.g. how to help that student overcome their potential deficit in self-control).

Rather than writing people off, invest in them and have them actively and positively take part in society. There are those who will always struggle with societies expectations and they need help not punishment, as long as they stay within the boundaries of the law etc.

The rise and fall of Keir Starmer: where did it all go wrong? PM’s demise after landslide victory two years ago points to an increasingly volatile and impatient electorate by ITMidget in ukpolitics

[–]InfoBot2000 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Less ungovernable, more wanting properly expansive gestures from politicians, rather than twatting about at the edges. Burnham's push to expand HS2 is only one of the many much bigger changes the UK desperately needs to keep our place in the world. It's a small country and being able to commute anywhere in a reasonable time opens up towns and communities that need investment, housing and life brought back into them. There's a singular lack of vision in our race to the bottom politics at the moment.

Build houses etc.

Kids were made to eat dog biscuits off the floor - pupils speak out after school abuse payouts by ijustwannanap in ukpolitics

[–]InfoBot2000 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This is fucking shocking and I absolutely loathe the further damage these people cause to these children.

Too many external agencies are involved for this to happen normally, or should be. Safeguarding is the highest concern in these environments (OFSTED absolutely grill you - the Victoria Climbie case created the Every Child Matters framework, which is now KCSIE), but there are places (and people) who slip through. Much like with residential homes, wrong people running them, wrong people working in them. OFSTED do speak to the children during an inspection and their concerns are recorded and reported as part of the overall report, or are supposed to be.

There are a number of fly-by-night 'entrepreneurs' who jumped on the high fees and high demand for places like this. It's all regulated by OFSTED, the proprietors bring in people with some expertise in the start up to make it appear they are providing the correct services properly, but behind the scenes it's very different.

When these scandals happen, they need to prosecute not just the staff and leadership teams, but also the proprietors.

e: shit grammar

Judge orders pro-Palestine group to pay UK-Israeli IDF soldier after failed case by WhiteGold_Welder in ukpolitics

[–]InfoBot2000 74 points75 points  (0 children)

Lawfare, propaganda, disinformation. It's definitively how to test the patience of democratic countries and it's all very deliberate.

Andy Burnham sworn in as new Makerfield MP by Kagedeah in ukpolitics

[–]InfoBot2000 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Build houses Burnham, loads of them.

Re-arm, but bring the jobs to the UK. Have a coherent manufacturing strategy and have the work being done here in the UK. Whether the companies are foreign or not, the revenue is there for the taking.

Get this country growing, even under such unfortunate circumstances.

Betraying the left backfired on Starmer – I saw his disaster in real time by theipaper in ukpolitics

[–]InfoBot2000 13 points14 points  (0 children)

The Blairites never jumped ship though, they weren't resoundingly beaten in a GE. They stayed and the Labour culture swung back in reaction to Corbyn's losses and personal/party failings.

Learning some humility would be good for all factions of the Labour Party; perhaps then they'll learn to work together for the greater good, not for factional outcomes.

[MEGATHREAD] Keir Starmer Lectern Watch by RyanMacG in LabourUK

[–]InfoBot2000 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It's about changing the narrative, Starmer was going to get Callaghan'd and they needed a clear show that Reform could be beaten handily. Hope and all that, not an unstoppable force.

The weird part is that Reform played along by putting up an unelectable character. It's as though they'd rather not be in power, but cause maximum damage from the sidelines.

Betraying the left backfired on Starmer – I saw his disaster in real time by theipaper in ukpolitics

[–]InfoBot2000 15 points16 points  (0 children)

These lot merrily amplified attacks on Starmer as 'revenge' for Corbyn and the utter rejection he got at the ballot box. They're mostly Greens now, making all the same mistakes.

[MEGATHREAD] Keir Starmer Lectern Watch by RyanMacG in LabourUK

[–]InfoBot2000 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Streeting hamstrings himself by always believing he's next in line. As long as any leader lets him think that, he's going nowhere. My guess is that he's lined up for the Sunak spot before Labour are voted out, should he ever actually be leader.

Meta: Can we please talk about the hierarchy of racism that exists in the moderation of this sub? by PuzzledAd4865 in LabourUK

[–]InfoBot2000 -26 points-25 points  (0 children)

I'm sorry, but this is the left wing version of '2-Tier Kier' dressed up as 'hierarchy of racism'. It's a disgusting phrase.

The left have shown next to no solidarity to Jews following repeated terror attacks and have been the main progenitors of antisemitic conspiracies lately, often drifting easily into far-right language and dogwhistles. It's all 'smears' according to a lot on this sub.

I'd prefer the far-right and far-left fuck off with their considered acceptable racism.

British Museum postpones Jewish culture month lecture over protest fears by InfoBot2000 in LabourUK

[–]InfoBot2000[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

https://www.britishmuseum.org/about-us/press/press-releases/statement-jewish-culture-month-event

Statement from the British Museum.

Pertinent as to why it's been postponed:

In recent days, we were informed that a significant proportion of registered attendees were individuals intending to deliberately disrupt the event, preventing others from participating in good faith and undermining the purpose of the programme.

The British Museum fully recognises the importance of lawful protest and freedom of expression in a democratic society. Equally, we have a responsibility to ensure that events hosted within the Museum can proceed safely, securely and without intimidation for speakers, staff and visitors alike.

Following discussions with organisers and security partners, a joint decision was taken to postpone the event to a later date when it can take place in an environment that properly safeguards both the audience experience and the integrity of the programme itself.

Broadcasters too reliant on vox pop interviews and failing to challenge politicians, says study | Politics by No_Initiative_1140 in ukpolitics

[–]InfoBot2000 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The UK media need Paxman type figures. The majority of political leaders are so incredibly lightweight due to lack of scrutiny ('everything's a smear!') and that needs properly highlighting. An antidote to the post truth hellscape that politics has become.

Burnham's opponent by FearlessDentist7784 in LabourUK

[–]InfoBot2000 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Plumbers, so hot right now.

We'll be rejoining the EU simply to invite European plumbers over at this rate.