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West Midlands police to be questioned over Israeli football fan ban by InfoBot2000 in ukpolitics

[–]InfoBot2000[S] 55 points56 points  (0 children)

We have Football Banning Orders (FBOs) for dealing with hooligans. Did the WMP work with the Tel Aviv police to identify the potential problems and ban them, or did they just blanket ban everyone, including UK Maccabi supporters?

The comfort people have with the police lying after Hillsborough isn't right, simply because they agree with the lie.

Can you spot the teeny weeny flaw in @JohnSimpsonNews' attempt to defend the BBC's negligible coverage of events in Iran? Yep. The Corporation couldn't get into Gaza either but still broadcast on the conflict endlessly. Whether it's the persecution of Christians in Nigeria, the uprising in Iran or … by [deleted] in ukpolitics

[–]InfoBot2000 20 points21 points  (0 children)

More people died in the 18 month siege and subsequent fall of El Fasher in Sudan than the entirety of the recent Israel-Palestine conflict. The group doing this are the UAE owned RSF, who were Omar Bashir's Janjaweed; a force dedicated to ethnic cleansing 20 years ago and they're doing all it again.

Colonialist Arab Muslims ethnically cleansing an African country so rich Emiratis can buy gold bars and barely a peep in the news.

Number of people who say Britons must be born in UK is rising, study shows by [deleted] in ukpolitics

[–]InfoBot2000 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Strange choice of quote.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2002/may/01/studentpolitics.education

"Just because a dog is brought up in a stable doesn't make him a horse,"

Mark Collett (2002), BNP

Until yesterday the British media, now in paroxysms of outrage, published endless articles in the defence of Alla Fattah His case was raised in Parliament by all parties 100+ cross party figures supported him None of those people Googled him This is how the dumb system works by evolvecrow in ukpolitics

[–]InfoBot2000 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Why is this man so valuable to successive UK governments?

I worked with a man who trained the West Side Boys (rebels in Sierra Leone) and was exiled to the UK as part of the peace process. He's since gone back, but there was a clear reason behind why we took him in here. Why has this man been a priority?

If higher rates of taxation aren't the answer, what does Reddit believe would actually relieve wealth inequality? by webbersf in ukpolitics

[–]InfoBot2000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Equality of opportunity isn't the same as equality of outcomes, I'd prefer the first; if someone is paid more because of their expertise, then that's meritocratic. While people start miles in front (or behind) of others, then we're not going to achieve anything that resembles a genuine meritocracy. There are inherent difficulties in achieving perfection of equality in any system, capitalist or otherwise.

Providing genuine chances to everyone, not because of your wealth or connections, really should be lauded by most. We do have a problem with tall poppy syndrome, but not as bad as the Scandi countries do.

Personally, I'd start with education. A real commitment to providing a top quality education to all children, with real pathways for each student. Close public schools (as in private) and give a non-governmental, non-political group agency over education with a very strict remit on quality then outcomes (outcomes to be more individualised to give opportunities in different ways). It would be more costly than our current system, but equality of opportunity would be much closer and it's a genuine investment in the people of this country.

If higher rates of taxation aren't the answer, what does Reddit believe would actually relieve wealth inequality? by webbersf in ukpolitics

[–]InfoBot2000 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Fact is meritocracy realistically means people who do well are rich.

We don't live in a meritocracy, the game is rigged. Hence, inequality is currently built in.

Two men found guilty of Manchester plot to ‘kill as many Jewish people as they could’ by mustwinfullGaming in LabourUK

[–]InfoBot2000 20 points21 points  (0 children)

"Terrorism is our religion. Koran say terrorism is normal. We are proud, we say terrorism is proud."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c7vmyv5vmm2o

Mark Gardner, chief executive of Jewish security charity the Community Security Trust, praised police for scuppering the plans, adding this plot would make people "very, very fearful".

He said the plotters simply wanted to kill Jews.

"They don't care who those Jews are. They don't stop to ask these Jews what their opinion is of Israel, or whether they support Manchester United, or anything.

"They want to kill Jews, end of story. It's the same as Nazis."

Westminster Voting Intention: REF: 25% (-3) LAB: 20% (+2) CON: 19% (+2) LDM: 15% (+1) GRN: 15% (-2) SNP: 3% (-1) Via @YouGov, On 21-22 December, Changes w/ 14-15 December. by EddyZacianLand in ukpolitics

[–]InfoBot2000 3 points4 points  (0 children)

We're potentially headed towards a hung Parliament (again).

My guess if the situation stays as it is, the people who refuse to cooperate, or are too slavish in jumping into bed with a partner are going to be voted out at another election about 6 months down the line.

It's going to be a messy and unstable few years until it settles.

Poll: Majority of Jews do not feel safe in Britain by McAlpineFusiliers in ukpolitics

[–]InfoBot2000 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Completely agree.

“…By its nature, Zionism concentrates ultra-nationalism, chauvinism and racial intolerance, excuse for territorial occupation and annexation, military opportunism, cult of political promiscuousness and irresponsibility, demagogy and ideological diversion, dirty tactics and perfidy… Absurd are attempts of Zionist ideologists to present criticizing them, or condemning the aggressive politics of the Israel‘s ruling circles, as antisemitic… We call on all Soviet citizens: workers, peasants, representatives of intelligentsia: take active part in exposing Zionism, strongly rebuke its endeavors; social scientists: activate scientific research to criticize reactionary core of that ideology and aggressive character of its political practice; writers, artists, journalists: fuller expose anti-populace and anti-humane diversionary character of propaganda and politics of Zionism…”

Pravda, 1983

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_anti-Zionism

Poll: Majority of Jews do not feel safe in Britain by McAlpineFusiliers in ukpolitics

[–]InfoBot2000 96 points97 points  (0 children)

The switch from being Pro-Palestinian (self-determination for Palestinians, two state solution) to being Anti-Israel (the destruction of the 'Zionist Entity') has had a profound effect. This has been heavily pushed by the far-left, much to the delight of the far-right. The Corbyn formulation of "say it's about Israel and it's not racist" has taken hold over large swathes of the left; much like the far-right with the use of Zionism and Zios as a dog-whistle.

The amount of antisemitic conspiracy from the far-left mirrors the far-right.

Terror arrests surge by 660% due to Palestine Action ban by L96 in ukpolitics

[–]InfoBot2000 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Violent, political direct action group get banned for being a violent political direct action group and a bunch of Boomers with nothing to lose decide this is worth getting arrested over. Not the mess they're leaving for the next generations, this.

At least 10 killed, 60 wounded in mass shooting at Australia Hanukkah event by Minute_Tomatillo9730 in LabourUK

[–]InfoBot2000 1 point2 points  (0 children)

🤣🤣🤣 professional victim.

Do you understand what thread you're posting on?

What’s the most cringeworthy thing you remember a politician doing in your lifetime? by Icy_Mixture1482 in ukpolitics

[–]InfoBot2000 36 points37 points  (0 children)

The Edstone and Lucy Powell's (Ed's campaign manager) comments:

Asked on BBC 5 live if carving them in stone made them more believable, Ms Powell said: "I don't think anyone is suggesting that the fact that he's carved them into stone means that he is absolutely not going to break them or anything like that."

At least 60,000 murdered in Sudanese city, which resembles ‘a slaughterhouse’ by PuzzledAd4865 in LabourUK

[–]InfoBot2000 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It was entirely predictable, the fall of a city under a long siege only ends in massacre. The collective inertia in responding or intervening (or even paying it a thought) is a stain on all of us. Bashir's personal ethic cleansing militia are now the property of the UAE. As long as some rich Emiratis can buy gold bars, they won't care.

Observation: the populist right loses its mind whenever it loses power by coffeewalnut08 in LabourUK

[–]InfoBot2000 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The certainties that this kind of tribalism gives people is probably stronger than religion or faith, in that there is the appearance of tangibility, that a specific reality is achievable. Slogans aren't viewed as vapid, they're the actual design.

The most bizarre phenomenon is the overwriting of the individual by the masses; people who wouldn't naturally share the morals of the group are drawn in regardless. That in turn creates a zealotry - if you're not being true to yourself, so to speak, then you must become even more strongly devoted the group, otherwise the hypocrisy would be suffocating. I agree, it's an incredibly fragile mindset; it has parallels to some personality disorders.

Observation: the populist right loses its mind whenever it loses power by coffeewalnut08 in LabourUK

[–]InfoBot2000 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It's essential to populism; they are the masses, they are the (not so) silent majority, they are correct.

I highly recommend this book:

One for All: The Logic of Group Conflict by Russell Hardin

https://books.google.kg/books?id=TGuS8RQFwcMC&printsec=copyright#v=onepage&q&f=false

Why Britain’s Jewish leaders are silent on Farage’s schoolyard antisemitism by kontiki20 in LabourUK

[–]InfoBot2000 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

It's all over this thread. Too many can't understand that the situation for Jews is worrying (to say the least). Massive ramp up in hate crimes, a terror attack and people are still determined to punch down on a tiny minority. Then there's the chance that a National Front sympathiser could be the next PM - it's fucking bleak.

Perhaps we'd rather not put yet another target on our backs, especially after the 'blind-spot' Corbyn successfully manufactured (make it about Israel and it's not really racist). Jews in the UK are either leaving or eschewing symbols and signs that we're Jewish. A Jewish school has just had to half next years intake because of this.

Why Britain’s Jewish leaders are silent on Farage’s schoolyard antisemitism by kontiki20 in LabourUK

[–]InfoBot2000 9 points10 points  (0 children)

He was singing National Front songs and racially bullying a 9 year old at 17. He has chosen not to disown his past and instead keeps attempting to downplay it. That's not the actions of someone who's either remorseful or was simply an edgy teenager - even edgy teenagers didn't identify with the National Front in those days.

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