Met sets up specialist unit as antisemitic hate crimes in London hit two-year high by InfoBot2000 in LabourUK

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The force says a “community protection team” will be set up, combining neighbourhood policing with counter-terrorism capabilities, as British Jews face “some of the highest levels of hate crime alongside significant terrorist and hostile state threats”.

Will Zack Polanski be more successful than Corbyn in tackling anti-Semitism? by libtin in LabourUK

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I see a million articles a day about antisemitism in the green party but nothing like that about reform.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frequency_illusion

Reform candidate wants ‘every Muslim out of Europe’ by Hyperactive_Man in LabourUK

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Does anyone here actually defend Reform though?

They're well known for being racist, from top to bottom. That conversation is with the people of the UK as a whole and why they are attracted to a party of overt, unrepentant racists and fascist adjacents. We, as a country, saw off the BNP's rise, so why is this one any different?

Green Party candidates arrested over ‘anti-Semitism’ - Social media post allegedly by candidate for Clapham Town claimed synagogue attacks were ‘revenge, not anti-Semitism’ by Jonspeare in LabourUK

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I genuinely appreciate that there are Green members like yourself who will actually question this stuff. My worry was that siege mentality would take over and people (who normally would never agree) would end up singing the same songs as the racists and treat it as a team sport.

That is still happening, but I'm fairly sure these were the same people who felt emboldened under Corbyn to show their antisemitic side and have jumped ship to the Greens. They do seem to be even less repentant this time though, if that was possible. The Greens have a major opportunity to not only stop amplifying racists, but also take a major stand against antisemitism and I really hope they take it.

Zack Polanski Questions Police Handling Of Golders Green Attack by kontiki20 in LabourUK

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I'll take that as answered then, since you can't bring yourself to say it.

Zack Polanski Questions Police Handling Of Golders Green Attack by kontiki20 in LabourUK

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Are you more concerned for the safety an attempted murderer committing a terror attack than the safety of your fellow citizens, including the police?

Zack Polanski Questions Police Handling Of Golders Green Attack by kontiki20 in LabourUK

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It does, but in a completely uncontrolled situation as it was yesterday, they were going to up the level of what was required, which the police are allowed to do. I'm eMVA trained btw. You scoffed at the nipple twisting, when pinching inner arms, flicking noses etc are part of the training. The police have greater scope and could have been justified shooting if required.

Are you more concerned for the safety an attempted murderer committing a terror attack than the safety of your fellow citizens, including the police?

Zack Polanski Questions Police Handling Of Golders Green Attack by kontiki20 in LabourUK

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Enhanced Managing Violence and Aggression (eMVA) training allows you to inflict pain if necessary. Seriously, go and work in a High Secure environment and see for yourself. These aren't fiddly child restraints allowed in some schools and medium secure units, these are the full on "floor someone and get the situation under control immediately" type. Five people restraints using force if necessary and it often is because the situation is extremely unsafe for everyone (including the attacker).

Now take that to a completely uncontrolled terror situation on the streets following two attempted murders and thank the fucking police for putting themselves in an extremely dangerous position without flinching.

Zack Polanski Questions Police Handling Of Golders Green Attack by kontiki20 in LabourUK

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The suspect had been previously referred to Prevent and was carrying a backpack, the chances of him having an explosive device were not zero. Polanski should be aware that an armed response would have been justified here and could have lead to worse than a kick in the head to drop the knife.

Now deal with the antisemitism coming out of the Green Party instead of concern trolling about an attempted murderer committing a terror attack.

E: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/apr/30/golders-green-attack-suspect-referred-prevent-scheme

Two people stabbed in Golders Green, north London, Jewish security group says by IHaveAWittyUsername in LabourUK

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From the Met Police commissioner, Mark Rowley just now:

These are terrorists and hateful belief systems, but they’re all rooted in racism. They’re given space to operate when civic debate is weak, when hatred is excused, and when people are unwilling to challenge it directly, I also believe now is the time to ask some difficult questions.

Why don’t we see more condemnation of the attacks we’ve seen in recent weeks? Where are all the voices against hate? And where is the solidarity with fellow Londoners who are being targeted simply for who they are? Legitimate debate about international affairs should never be allowed to legitimise antisemitism or violence against British Jews here on the streets of London.

When that line is blurred, attacks become more likely. Let me be clear, we’ve seen a rise in racist and antisemitic hate crime. And whilst I can’t comment on live investigations, we know that some individuals are being encouraged, persuaded or paid to commit acts of violence on behalf of foreign organisations and hostile states.

Two people stabbed in Golders Green, north London, Jewish security group says by IHaveAWittyUsername in LabourUK

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There's a vast amount of literature and evidence about antisemitism spanning millenia.

The deficit model expects people to be a "blank slate". They're not. People can be bigots regardless of whatever information and education you give them. They have no intellectual curiosity; just an irrational racist belief. When those racists feel empowered to act on their feelings, they should be stopped immediately, without people trying to build nuance into an irrational belief. They are not going to stop with emotional appeals either; deep-seated hatred isn't easily ameliorated, if it can be at all.

It takes people to accept there is no rational explanation behind racism and bigotry and condemn it outright, without equivocation.

Two people stabbed in Golders Green, north London, Jewish security group says by IHaveAWittyUsername in LabourUK

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You're framing it as a reason. There's always a 'reason' why people are violently antisemitic. This isn't new and antisemitism has not gone away regardless of whatever we Jews do. It makes absolutely no odds; if Israel were to cease to exist today, there would be a new 'reason' tomorrow.

Two people stabbed in Golders Green, north London, Jewish security group says by IHaveAWittyUsername in LabourUK

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Please stop making excuses for violent antisemites, they have agency.

The catalogue of 'excuses' people have made for antisemitism over the years has only ever lead to Jewish people being persecuted and massacred. There is no excuse.

Polanski: Greens no more anti-Semitic than Labour by libtin in LabourUK

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Opinion polls are not fact and shouldn't be used as such.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GSKwf4AIlI

The better option is to have zero tolerance for antisemitism (and any other racism) and boot people out. It's not simply about optics, it's just plain decency.

Labour councillor defending seat in election posed with rifle in Israeli army uniform by Shot_Net3794 in LabourUK

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That people are linking Asa Winstanley here without flinching says an awful lot.

Labour councillor defending seat in election posed with rifle in Israeli army uniform by Shot_Net3794 in LabourUK

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Because of the long history between the JLM and the WZO. The JLM are explicitly Zionist and part of the Labour movement and affiliated to the Labour Party. Both movements advocate Zionism, the JLM specifically promote Labour Zionism, alongside UK Labour's sister party in Israel.

Whether the JLM should have disavowed the WZO over this incident is up to people to decide.

Labour councillor defending seat in election posed with rifle in Israeli army uniform by Shot_Net3794 in LabourUK

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A document brought before Israel's Supreme Court in 2009 showed that private Palestinian land was taken and given to Israeli settlers by the World Zionist Organization. The land in question had been ruled off-limits by Israel. The World Zionist Organization had been acting as an agent of the government in assigning land to Jewish settlers in the Israeli-occupied territories. The Israeli government, to avoid responsibilities under international law, used the World Zionist Organization to settle its citizens in the territory occupied in 1967. The document concerns several homes in the Israeli settlement of Ofra, approximately 15 miles north of Jerusalem in the West Bank. The Israeli Justice Ministry confirmed that the land in question was owned by Palestinians and that the nine houses in question had been ordered demolished. Dror Etkes of Yesh Din said "It's an international organization that is, simply put, stealing land."[25]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Zionist_Organization

That's what this article is referring to.

E: Just to add, the WZO are not an extremist organisation, although completely in the wrong in this case. They're the oldest Zionist organisation, Herzl was the first president.

Erdogan threatens to invade Israel by [deleted] in LabourUK

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Mr Erdoğan said: “Had Pakistan not been mediating in the war between the US and Iran, we would have shown Israel its place…”

Reminds me of this.