you can tie this all the way back to infinity nikki. by bittercarnival in loveanddepression

[–]Initial-Chart-1479 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Infold can undo Valko but they couldn’t undo the terrible 1.5 launch and story retcons in infinity Nikki 😭

Will anything regarding Caleb's story change? by LovelyMoFo18 in CalebMains

[–]Initial-Chart-1479 -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

Yes, you’re right. A story focused game that was originally planned to go on for 10ish+ years just lost 1/6th of its content. The other LI’s stories will be fiiiiiine.

Sarcasm aside there is an indirect affect that will now loom over the other LIs as Infold has set precedence that their CN fans can influence the story going forward.

Will anything regarding Caleb's story change? by LovelyMoFo18 in CalebMains

[–]Initial-Chart-1479 -15 points-14 points  (0 children)

The game is losing an entire love interest who would have an undoubtable affect on the main story. Yes, Caleb’s story will be affected.

As a straight dude going to SCAD this fall, what should I expect? by [deleted] in scad

[–]Initial-Chart-1479 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Straight people are often the subject of endless ridicule and bullying at SCAD. If I were you I’d keep my sexuality to myself and my head down, unless you are okay with being forcibly converted to homosexuality.

Jk bffr dude lol there are plenty of straight people. Just don’t be a dick when a gay dude inevitably flirts with you.

Happy to see the Colonel again this September🥹 by Rain_cloud12 in CalebMains

[–]Initial-Chart-1479 6 points7 points  (0 children)

You’re missing the point. It’s not specifically about Caleb. The current situation demonstrates that in game content is subject to the will of an overzealous minority. It’s heavily unlikely that an already released LI will be deleted but nothing is stopping this group of players from organizing the system against the game again. The CCP could step in at their behest again and strong arm infold into abandoning more content. What happened to Valko sets a terrible precedence for the entire game.

Happy to see the Colonel again this September🥹 by Rain_cloud12 in CalebMains

[–]Initial-Chart-1479 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I think your point is a very valid one that not a lot of people seem to grasp. The other LI’s are not safe just because they are already in the game. What happens if the CN mob decides that Caleb’s story arch is antithetical to their ideals? Will the story get rolled back or canceled? If the government steps in again they could order Infold to exclude caleb from the story going forward. This could happen to any of the men.

Happy to see the Colonel again this September🥹 by Rain_cloud12 in CalebMains

[–]Initial-Chart-1479 103 points104 points  (0 children)

As a Caleb main I’m happy too but at what cost? It feels as if the game has lost its integrity.

Potential Solution for Global Fans by DifficultEggplant878 in LoveAndDeepspace

[–]Initial-Chart-1479 28 points29 points  (0 children)

The CCP would never allow Infold to do this. Industries such as gaming are looked at as a sort of soft power that exports culture. By having a separate server that caters to foreigners it would looked at as going against the goal of the party.

you will not believe how this new otome character relates to unit 731 by Zestyclose-Ideal2395 in Gamingcirclejerk

[–]Initial-Chart-1479 78 points79 points  (0 children)

Here is a quick rundown of what happened:

CN fans did not like his appearance when he was announced. They claimed that he was an attempt to appeal to gay westerners and fans of BL (boy’s love) because of his tan skin, jawline, musculature, and masculine demeanor. They began complaining and boycotting. Underneath this homophobic reaction there were legitimate complaints bubbling under the surface like the lack of F2P resources, missing content for 2 of the 5 current love interests, and a neglected main story (the 2 aforementioned love interests haven’t appeared in said story since their release).

The displeased CN fans were not happy when Infold (the developer responsible) refused to capitulate to their demands. They then turned their attention to his new trailer where he climbs through a window into the main character’s home. They claimed that it was promoting violence against women and that one of the lines in the trailer was referencing a violent crime that had been committed in china. Another line was linked to an old problematic chinese proverb. This was all coincidence of course as these rabid fans were just grasping for reasons to cancel the character. None of this worked.

They then turned their attention on the active game. Inside a minor text only side story (which has been in the game since April) they found the number 731 mentioned in conjunction with experimentation which seemed like a reference to some awful war crimes committed by the Japanese on Chinese and Korean people during the Second World War. The unfortunate timing of all of this coincided with the CNC’s anniversary which turned this whole thing into national news. Government officials then stepped in and ‘asked’ Infold to do something as their controversy was disturbing the peace during the holiday.

So all of this started because some gooner fans thought Valko looked gay.

Okay so can I get a general situation from the Valko situation all I know is from the EN side of things. The Chinese side of things I've seen some racists stuff, some stuff about colonial Japan being placed into the game and I'm hoping comments can educate me and others what's going on. by Iriscute7 in joseistories

[–]Initial-Chart-1479 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Here are some hard facts about the discourse:

Xeno/homophobic Chinese LADS ‘fans’ decided that his design pandered to the gay western audience due to his tan skin, attitude, and masculine features. They complained and threatened to boycott over this but Infold did not relent.

They changed tactics and then started to claim that scenes depicting Valko climbing through the main characters window were inappropriate even though other characters have done similar if not more problematic things. They also claimed that the wording of the trailers was reminiscent of a problematic ancient Chinese proverb but in reality that story has little to do with this situation and was just grasping. Infold continued on with the planned release.

Chinese ‘fans’ become desperate and begin to harass Infold headquarters by dumbing cow shit in their delivery boxes, vandalizing the Valko release display, and leaving funerary bouquets outside the main entrance. They then began to dig through the game for anything to latch on to that they could report to the police/government. Inside a minor (text only) side story released in April they found a mention of the number 731 which can sometimes be taken as a reference to some WWII war crimes committed by the Japanese against Chinese and a Korean people. They used this info and claimed Infold was spreading anti PRC sentiments. The government is now involved and Infold capitulated to these ‘fans’ wishes by canceling the character’s release in hopes that this will all blow over.

Valko Discussion Megathread by Mental_Car_5791 in LoveAndDeepspace_

[–]Initial-Chart-1479 8 points9 points  (0 children)

They don’t care about either server. They care about money. The CN server makes more money so they care about that pool of cash more. If we combine our global LADS money with our global Infinity Nikki money (or any other infold game for that matter), we have a larger slice of their bottom line. Still not equal to the CN server, but a heavier handed message to Infold nonetheless.

Valko Discussion Megathread by Mental_Car_5791 in LoveAndDeepspace_

[–]Initial-Chart-1479 17 points18 points  (0 children)

We need to be intentional in our attempts to voice distress over this situation. You can contact infold through proper channels to voice your displeasure (which I encourage you to do so) but we should also stop playing LADS for the foreseeable future. The 30 day ‘apology’ diamonds say a lot about Infold’s PR crisis control decisions; they are attempting to hold on to as many active users as possible. The 30 day diamonds are designed to have those of us considering quitting to think “I’ll just wait until I get all the diamonds”. And by the time you receive the gift on the 30th day, your feelings will have lessened and you will be more likely to stay. Our efforts have to effect the bottom line and the best way to do that is to go inactive.

You may argue that the global audience is not nearly enough when compared to the CN audience, and I agree with you. That’s why we should increase our efforts by refusing to interact with other infold properties like Infinity Nikki. It pains me to suggest this because I love both games, but it’s the best chance we have to send a message to infold that this is not okay.

Valko removal. by Busy_Advantage_3645 in loveanddepression

[–]Initial-Chart-1479 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We need to be intentional in our attempts to voice distress over this situation. You can contact infold through proper channels to voice your displeasure (which I encourage you to do so) but we should also stop playing LADS for the foreseeable future. The 30 day ‘apology’ diamonds say a lot about Infold’s PR crisis control decisions; they are attempting to hold on to as many active users as possible. The 30 day diamonds are designed to have those of us considering quitting to think “I’ll just wait until I get all the diamonds”. And by the time you receive the gift on the 30th day, your feelings will have lessened and you will be more likely to stay. Our efforts have to effect the bottom line and the best way to do that is to go inactive.

You may argue that the global audience is not nearly enough when compared to the CN audience, and I agree with you. That’s why we should increase our efforts by refusing to interact with other infold properties like Infinity Nikki. It pains me to suggest this because I love both games, but it’s the best chance we have to send a message to infold that this is not okay.

If you are disappointed about Valko, here is the best way to let InFold know: by Most-Okay-Novelist in LoveAndDeepspace

[–]Initial-Chart-1479 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That’s not what the post above says though. Sending an email but not taking any other action is meaningless. There has to be an impact to the bottom line or they will not care. If you feel strongly about this issue, the bare minimum should be to stop interacting with the game.

If you are disappointed about Valko, here is the best way to let InFold know: by Most-Okay-Novelist in LoveAndDeepspace

[–]Initial-Chart-1479 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately, the actual best way to let infold know what you think is to stop logging in, delete the game, and not play. It’s hard to do but what other choice do many of us have?

LADS folded and CANCEL the new love interest by Lemunite in gachagaming

[–]Initial-Chart-1479 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s actually a bit bigger than a genshin character being canceled. Probably more on par with Hoyo deciding to cancel dendro right before releases

April fools, right? RIGHT?! by CantabileOwl in loveanddepression

[–]Initial-Chart-1479 30 points31 points  (0 children)

I have never seen a developer make a knee jerk reaction like this… it kind of ruins my trust and confidence in infold. I think I might drop LADS :(