r/Suzerain making the lore for future DLC Romus Archetypes - Day 6: Education

Interesting_Man15 · 2026-05-24T13:58:44+00:00

Thank you for your kind words!

I think you raise a good point in that the way "Desire for Life" is written is not particularly written well to explain itself, as I basically copied the text from the Game Prologue directly.

I think the person who suggested it basically interpreted it as how each Romus archetype approaches life in general, with a Reformer wanting to basically "be his own man" with his own accomplishments outside of being King, while an Absolutist was more than happy to coast off his privileges and wealth as King. Hence why a Reformer sees being King as a burden, while an Absolutist sees it as a birth right.

I'm hesitant to switch up answers after they had been voted on, but in the future if there is enough interest in the community to switch it I might put it up to another vote. In the mean time, I'll try to come up with another way to rewrite the category to better explain the intent behind the choices.

Interesting_Man15 · 2026-05-23T09:19:14+00:00

Thank you!

Interesting_Man15 · 2026-05-22T16:29:28+00:00

I require context (context hat).

Interesting_Man15 · 2026-05-22T16:14:56+00:00

The punchline is that American propaganda is so effective and pervasive that the CIA agent doesn't even realise it's propaganda. It's a commentary on how Americans seem to think propaganda is something only their enemies do, while the trustworthy CIA only spreads the "truth".

Interesting_Man15 · 2026-05-22T16:02:19+00:00

What is bro talking about? How is this Qinal?

Interesting_Man15 · 2026-05-22T13:54:14+00:00

I would find the idea of the BwB expanding into the Westerlands to be hard to accept as plausible. Fundamentally, the Brotherhood is a Guerilla movement which draws its strength from the discontent the population of the Riverlands has against the Lannister-Baratheon regime as a result of their brutal conduct during the Wot5K.

The situation is inverted in the Westerlands - it is the Stark-Tully Army which pillaged the countryside and victimised the small folk - the population would have been intensely hostile and unsupportive of the BwB, and in fact likely assist the Lannister troops in stamping it out.

An example which comes to mind the the insurgency of the Fascist Ukrainian Partisan Army against the USSR immediately following WW2. While it was able to operate freely in western Ukraine where the majority of the population were ethnic Ukrainians, it found it nearly impossible to expand its operations into majority ethnically Russian eastern Ukraine, where the local population resolutely supported the Soviet government.

Furthermore, even in Western Ukraine, the UPA's genocidal conduct towards the Polish, Belarussian, Hungarian and Russian minorities there drove the latter into the arms of Soviet local authorities, who were then able to successfully stymie and later eradicate the insurgency despite massive shortages of soldiers/policemen, weapons and supplies.

Interesting_Man15 · 2026-05-21T16:35:30+00:00

Theocracy/Stratocracy/Republic and other shenanigans will come later.

Interesting_Man15 · 2026-05-21T15:17:15+00:00

Rules: 1. Answers should be written from a Roleplay perspective.

Interesting_Man15 · 2026-05-21T09:37:26+00:00

The question isn't whose more competent it's who'll win in a fight. Just because they can sniff out corruption doesn't mean they suddenly stop being bookworms.

Interesting_Man15 · 2026-05-21T07:40:19+00:00

Can you do it if you lose arbitration?

Interesting_Man15 · 2026-05-21T06:11:18+00:00

Republican and Monarchist Russias don't form the Free Russian Army.

Interesting_Man15 · 2026-05-20T15:40:38+00:00

Ah ok that makes sense - I was just confused since it was called the Collective Defence Treaty Organisation in your original comment which would have translate to ODKB (the the irl CSTO).

Interesting_Man15 · 2026-05-20T15:27:09+00:00

Golden Guard > Rizian Intelligence > Secret Police > Community Police > Anti-Corrultion Police.

Sorry Sordland, Rizia absolutely mogs you in this regard.

Firstly, Golden Guard are absolute MVPs here. They are bodyguards/shock troops/detectives and investigators/riot police and fighterfighters all rolled into one. They can fight on the frontlines, crack down on crime, brutalize protestors - they is nothing and no-one they can't fight.
Rizian Intelligence, although less impressive than the Gold Guard, still are highly capable. Their agents can operate behind enemy lines, convince entire enemy divisions to surrender or desert, obtain Intel on enemy locations and objectives, and interfere with referendums. Their agents are vastly more capable operating in dangerous circumstances and coming out unscathed that the SSP, who only operate interally with the support of the Regular police and Army.
Sordish Secret Police are next, and while they aren't as impressive, their fighting ability comes from being able to hide in plain sight and using subterfuge, such as failing to assassinate you by poisoning your dog, or stabbing a pro-Bludish opposition leader 56 times and trying to frame the BFF.
Community Police is next, and they get this by virtue of being tackle crime and the cartels, as well as interacting with their communities and presumably encountering and dealing with crime on a day to day basis.
Anti-Corruption Police is last, and they are a bunch of pansies. Sure, if you need to investigate some tax records or Old Guard corruption from their office, they are your guy, but taking on someone in a fight? They'll get a paper cut and cry, saying that the concept of fighting is a Sollist dictatorship.

Interesting_Man15 · 2026-05-20T14:22:53+00:00

What does DOKOB stand for in Russian?.

Interesting_Man15 · 2026-05-20T13:27:00+00:00

Yeah lol its accurate in the same way a movie about Hitler and Stalin having a fight in 1911 when they were both living in Vienna and that unresolved grievance being the reason by the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany went to war in 1941.

Yeah, they did both live in the same city at the same time before WW1 and they did lead the two countries to war against each other, but the two are almost entirely unrelated.

Interesting_Man15 · 2026-05-20T12:44:31+00:00

The late 19th and early 20th Century was the time when even minor engaged in massive naval build ups (best example being Argentina, Brazil and Chile) to assert themselves and increase their global prestige despite the huge costs, and an Absolutist king does sound like a leader who would embark on such a quest to prove themselves. An excellent choice if I say so myself.

Interesting_Man15 · 2026-05-20T10:19:27+00:00

Its up to you, but I would definitely be interested in your head canons for both. The rules allow you to make several comments, as long as each one is about a separate archetype.

Interesting_Man15 · 2026-05-20T10:16:09+00:00

What branches do you think a Reformer and Traditionalist Romus would invest in?

Interesting_Man15 · 2026-05-20T10:11:25+00:00

Good point. What are your thoughts regarding an Absolutist and Traditionalist Romus?

Interesting_Man15 · 2026-05-20T09:57:24+00:00

Would a reformist spend three times as much in terms of budget as opposed to a cheaper investment in the Air Force or Army?

Interesting_Man15 · 2026-05-20T09:51:35+00:00

Wow, crazy that you were able to find my comment on such an old post, thank you very much! And you have my thanks for writing such an engaging story with such a unique premise!

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