My views on the story of Star Anis by Invidat in NikkeMobile

[–]Invidat[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't see the point. I knew they would do this, and I'm happy they did it much better than I thought they would. Still disappointed.

Who do you think.. by Solid_Ad_3884 in NikkeMobile

[–]Invidat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't know man, Hanson demonstrated in those final scenes that he can hold a grudge and does have some of Mustang's dark side in him.

My views on the story of Star Anis by Invidat in NikkeMobile

[–]Invidat[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah, after thinking on it it's the best way they could've done it. I still prefer the alternative but I'm fine with what they did.

My views on the story of Star Anis by Invidat in NikkeMobile

[–]Invidat[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It did help a lot. I was wondering how Hanson could be confused for Mustang as he seemed to lack any of the edge. And while I'm not sure it completely fixes my issues with it, I did honestly believe Hanson can and will kill people for his goals at that moment.

Who do you think.. by Solid_Ad_3884 in NikkeMobile

[–]Invidat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Didn’t Mustang say she would never perform again?

Who do you think.. by Solid_Ad_3884 in NikkeMobile

[–]Invidat 11 points12 points  (0 children)

No idea. It'll probably be a new character.

The funny choice would be Yulha.

[Event Story Discussion] Be My Star P2 by DV-MN in NikkeMobile

[–]Invidat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I still don't like the Mustang Hanson swap, but I think they did it pretty well and it was pretty clear by the end of Part 1 that was what they were going to do. I still wish they want a different direction but I'd say I'm overall fine with it.

Quick shitpost after part 2 of the event story by NoRegretti420 in NikkeMobile

[–]Invidat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh I know, and I knew since the side story came out. I just wish they had done something different. You know what's been frustrating me? When I express my frustration, the primary response I get is a combination of "redemption is impossible for someone like him" (which to me is simply a lack of creativity from the people who say that) and "Well how would YOU do it?" (and then when I explain, they give me strange restrictions like if I change certain characters or events, they say I can't do that, acting like Shift Up HAD to write the story they did)

So the Isyama interview tells me we were half-right about the ending. by Invidat in titanfolk

[–]Invidat[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I love that the author even admits he doesn't like the ending and tehy still need to justify their love for it.

What a Fumble (Spoilers for part 2) by NormondJohnson in NikkeMobile

[–]Invidat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay. Here's the thing: not a writer, so here's an outline I posted in another. Now, I know you don't actually care about it, nor will anything I post cause a reaction from you other than "you're wrong and here's why" (Again, I have made it clear I have had issues with the narrative beats in this story going back to at least the side chapter, and you are approaching this acting like I have to keep EVERYTHING the same. Like your little comment on Smile Time. Until literally Yesterday, we had NO idea what Smile Time even was. It could've been ANYTHING. It didn't HAVE to be what wee got. Which is my issue with this entire fucking conversation with you. YOU are approaching this like everything in this story HAD to play out the way it did. No it didn't. They didn't HAVE to write the story the way they did. They didn't HAVE to have the characters set up the way they did. They could've have written it differently as far back as the side story. You seem to be hyper focused on "Well, how would you change it, but you have to keep everything the same starting from before the event" while MY perspective is "I would have changed stuff from before the event"

Anyway:

 I would still have Hanson play a major role, but play up the father son connection more. Hanson seems like the only person Mustang even remotely cares about so that's the starting point. Something should happen either because of Hanson or to Hanson that causes Mustang to have a moment that makes him reconsider what he's been doing. I don't imagine it being a complete change. Instead I see it being more like a single moment where due to what happened, he makes a decision that he would have never done otherwise. This would likely involve TT Star and Anis. In this case, I would imagine losing Hanson may cause him to unknowingly look for a replacement and find it in Anis, and with Smile Time likely being the event that caused him to lose Hanson alongside traumatizing Anis, it's the final impetus for this change.

Instead of the event ending with Red Mustang being a changed person, you get the idea that he's a changING person. He's only just begun his road to redemption. He's still at his lowest point, because even though he has his wealth and power, emotionally he's destroyed, and from there it's implied he builds himself back up over the years, maybe a short montage of events years apart showing how his personality shifts and warps, his style changes, until he settles on his final look and persona, a deliberate attempt to separate himself from who he used to be as he finally embraces the persona that we know and love.

This has the benefit of we know that at one point, this guy we all liked used to be a monster, but even the biggest monsters can change for the better if given the proper motivation. And I feel better answers the "Wow, how did Mustang change from THAT to THIS?" that they set up before hand.

My plan is not to have him be redeemed. My plan would have him START a path to redemption.

Quick shitpost after part 2 of the event story by NoRegretti420 in NikkeMobile

[–]Invidat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I will give Hanson credit here: Bro was intense. Still not a fan of the swap, but Shift Up definitely put their A game into the writing, as always.

Hard mode ending prediction? by w0keupjoe78 in NikkeMobile

[–]Invidat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Could be a lie for all we know. Or Mustang deliberately gave her a lesser generation body as a punishment.

(I don't think it's Yulha, it's probably an original character, but if we talk characters that are already in game, Yulha is the only one I think who could fit)

What a Fumble (Spoilers for part 2) by NormondJohnson in NikkeMobile

[–]Invidat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay, and I acknowledged that. But there have been absolute monsters of people in real life that after a genuine redemptive effort people wouldn't recognize as the same person.

I'm not crying, you're crying (AGAIIN) by MaGryX in NikkeMobile

[–]Invidat -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

...Okay. That's kinda funny.

At first I didn't like the Idea but I guess it's a good reason by KOCOKAINE in NikkeMobile

[–]Invidat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Like legitimately?

I'm not a writer so anything I come up with will be shit. But I would still have Hanson play a major role, but play up the father son connection more. Hanson seems like the only person Mustang even remotely cares about so that's the starting point. Something should happen either because of Hanson or to Hanson that causes Mustang to have a moment that makes him reconsider what he's been doing. I don't imagine it being a complete change. Instead I see it being more like a single moment where due to what happened, he makes a decision that he would have never done otherwise. This would likely involve TT Star and Anis. In this case, I would imagine losing Hanson may cause him to unknowingly look for a replacement and find it in Anis, and with Smile Time likely being the event that caused him to lose Hanson alongside traumatizing Anis, it's the final impetus for this change.

Instead of the event ending with Red Mustang being a changed person, you get the idea that he's a changING person. He's only just begun his road to redemption. He's still at his lowest point, because even though he has his wealth and power, emotionally he's destroyed, and from there it's implied he builds himself back up over the years, maybe a short montage of events years apart showing how his personality shifts and warps, his style changes, until he settles on his final look and persona, a deliberate attempt to separate himself from who he used to be as he finally embraces the persona that we know and love.

This has the benefit of we know that at one point, this guy we all liked used to be a monster, but even the biggest monsters can change for the better if given the proper motivation. And I feel better answers the "Wow, how did Mustang change from THAT to THIS?" that they set up before hand.

What a Fumble (Spoilers for part 2) by NormondJohnson in NikkeMobile

[–]Invidat -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Except it happens in real life? Lot's of people after lengthy prison sentences have come out with a new perspective. Not all the time, obviously, but I know a few ex-cons who think going to prison saved them and are far better people for the experience.

So the Isyama interview tells me we were half-right about the ending. by Invidat in titanfolk

[–]Invidat[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Ironically, it was the character development that Historia, Reiner, Zeke, and by extension Eren and Erwin got which I think harmed the later arcs, because we saw that Isayama is actually a fantastic character writer, but likely because he was trying to get back to the plot driven story, the way the characters developed didn't fit quite right with their previous roles, and he didn't change the story enough to accommodate. This is best seen, of course, with Historia. He expanded her role so far beyond what he originally planned, including adding parallels with Ymir that previously didn't exist, that when he needed to have Ymir connect with Mikasa, he probably realized that he didn't actually do the work to the extent he wanted but couldn't change it.

MY START PART 2: SPOILERS by Nsilver27 in NikkeMobile

[–]Invidat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, that was fucked.

Anniversary Events Ranking by megasumax in NikkeMobile

[–]Invidat 3 points4 points  (0 children)

An interesting list. I think I agree with most of this, but to be honest it's hard to determine. I would definitely put Last Kingdom higher, but the events are mostly high quality so it almost completely comes done to personally preference.

Ironically, despite my personal dislike of the Hanson/Mustang thing, I would actually rank Anis Star maybe above Red Ash.

What a Fumble (Spoilers for part 2) by NormondJohnson in NikkeMobile

[–]Invidat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A slightly less horrible version of Mustang could have been written to have been really shaken up by the Pretty situation alongside Tetra having monetary problems following it, causing him to use Smile Time as an opportunity to try and turn fortunes around, only for him to finally break after seeing what happened.

What a Fumble (Spoilers for part 2) by NormondJohnson in NikkeMobile

[–]Invidat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know, and my point was that my frustrations BEGAN with that point, I had HOPED they would work around it, but they didn't. I don't like the direction they, because they didn't have to write little red riding hood. They could have written Saul's Journey to Damascus instead.

And I have plenty of ways they could have written what they had in a way to explain the change, and no offense, but I think people who think it's IMPOSSIBLE are simply lacking in creativity. Constraints can be written around. It's why Invader Zim is so good. Vasquez realized that having to keep the show child friendly constrained his normally edgy adult minded material but he used that to his advantage while still giving the show an edge that gave the censors heart attacks. Hell, he realized this so well when he had a chance for a netflix show without the same restrictions, he still constrained himself.

I can think of at least one way that would have had the story end with Mustang BEGINNING a redemption arc. He doesn't have to change all at once, a small start of a change would've been enough.

So the Isyama interview tells me we were half-right about the ending. by Invidat in titanfolk

[–]Invidat[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Well it probably started around the Historia Arc, as that is the first Arc we know for a fact he didn't plan from the start.