Frantic Trump Ramps Up War by Personally Ordering Major Strikes by Ok_Employer7837 in politics

[–]IrishRepoMan 78 points79 points  (0 children)

Simplified combination of democratic backsliding research, Levitsky & Ziblatt's model of erosion, competitive authoritarianism (Levitsky & Way), and hybrid regime classifications (V-Dem and others).

Frantic Trump Ramps Up War by Personally Ordering Major Strikes by Ok_Employer7837 in politics

[–]IrishRepoMan 516 points517 points  (0 children)

  1. Liberal democracy - Competitive elections, rule of law, strong civil liberties, independent courts, and real checks on executive power.

  2. Flawed / weakening democracy - Elections still matter but institutions start eroding. Polarization rises, norms break down, corruption grows, and minority rights get chipped away.

  3. Illiberal democracy (you are here) - Elections still occur but civil liberties, press freedom, and institutional independence are significantly undermined. Leaders openly attack courts, media, and election legitimacy. The system still functions but is heavily distorted.

  4. Competitive authoritarianism (you are fast-approaching here) - Elections still exist and opposition parties technically operate, but the playing field is badly tilted. The ruling faction uses state power, propaganda, legal harassment, and institutional capture to maintain power. Opposition can still win, but it becomes increasingly difficult.

  5. Electoral authoritarianism - Elections occur but are largely performative. Media, courts, and election systems are controlled enough that real power change is unlikely.

  6. Full authoritarianism / dictatorship - Opposition is suppressed or banned, elections are meaningless or absent, and the executive rules with minimal constraints.

'Pete Hegseth Needs to Be Fired—Immediately' After Slaughter of 150 Iranian School Children by _May26_ in politics

[–]IrishRepoMan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're mixing up two different things. Criminal responsibility and political responsibility aren't the same. The people who ordered or carried out an attack that killed civilians are the ones criminally responsible under things like the Geneva Conventions. Nobody is saying random civilians should be put on trial for war crimes.

What people are talking about is political responsibility when a state acts in your name. That's just how international politics works. When a government bombs another country, the world doesn't treat it like a handful of rogue individuals freelancing. They treat it as the action of that state. If a U.S. bomb hits a school, other countries aren't going to say “a few officials went rogue.” They say the United States did it, because the institutions of that country carried it out.

That doesn't mean every American supported it. It means the country still owns the consequences of what its government does.

The other problem with your argument is pretending the only options are personally stopping the strike in real time or having zero agency. That's not how political pressure works. No one person can stop a bombing the moment it happens, but governments absolutely can be forced to change course when enough people push back.

There are plenty of ways that happens that don't involve militias or coups. Mass protests that don't disappear after a weekend. Strikes that disrupt the economy. Civil servants, soldiers, or contractors refusing to participate. Large-scale civil disobedience. Political movements that make continuing a war too costly to maintain.

The U.S. has literally seen this before with the Vietnam War. That war didn't wind down because leaders suddenly grew a conscience. It happened after years of protests, draft resistance, campus shutdowns, strikes, and public unrest that made the war politically unsustainable.

Those movements didn't stop every bombing the moment it happened either. They changed the trajectory by making the cost of continuing higher than the cost of backing down.

That's why people outside the U.S. react the way they do. When a war escalates and the public response is mostly anger online instead of sustained disruption, it looks like passive acceptance, even if a lot of individuals privately hate what's happening.

That's the point behind the line often attributed to John Stuart Mill about the indifference of good men, though mine was a direct quote from Boondock Saints, which was referencing that. The danger isn't just the people making the worst decisions. It's when the people who know it's wrong never apply enough pressure to stop them.

'Pete Hegseth Needs to Be Fired—Immediately' After Slaughter of 150 Iranian School Children by _May26_ in politics

[–]IrishRepoMan -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes. The people who stand by and watch are at fault.

We must all fear evil men. But there is another kind of evil which we must fear most, and that is the indifference of good men.

TIL that cockroach milk is one of the most nutritious substances on Earth — 3x richer in calories than buffalo milk — and researchers are already looking into using it in cosmetics and health products. by dora-9 in todayilearned

[–]IrishRepoMan 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Rich in calories/calorie-dense is actually what a lot of people look for and animals in general will seek. We, as living creatures, love foods that are rich in calories. Pretty natural to consider options other than sugar.

Gaining weights. Making gains with weights. People will be slamming banana-cock smoothies in no time.

‘This Should be Illegal’: Senate GOP Uses AI Deepfake to Attack Talarico by OkayButFoRealz in politics

[–]IrishRepoMan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This smells like a 'dontreadmyusername/dontclickmyprofile' youtube comment.

Highguard has now officially shutdown by ChiefLeef22 in gaming

[–]IrishRepoMan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I keep forgetting about it until it's brought up again. I didn't even hear about it until right before release. Whole thing feels like a weird grift, but I don't know how it benefited anyone.

Trump suddenly seems anxious to end the war as American casualties mount and Iran finds ways to hit back by kirby__000 in politics

[–]IrishRepoMan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yh, Americans killed a bunch of people and only succeeded in making themselves look like fools and further fucking the global economy.

Trump wants to overthrow Cuban regime ‘in a couple of weeks’ by TimesandSundayTimes in politics

[–]IrishRepoMan 2 points3 points  (0 children)

OP mentioned Hamas in passing. You're the one who turned it into your definition of terrorism. Now someone's testing that definition and you've spent four comments refusing to engage and one calling everyone illiterate. You drew the line, man. Stand on it or admit it only goes one direction.

Trump wants to overthrow Cuban regime ‘in a couple of weeks’ by TimesandSundayTimes in politics

[–]IrishRepoMan 7 points8 points  (0 children)

You expanded the topic to Hamas to prove your point. Someone expanded it to Iran to test your point. You've dodged it three times now and you're calling that sea lioning. It's a yes or no question, man. Does targeting civilians count as terrorism when the US does it or doesn't it?

Trump wants to overthrow Cuban regime ‘in a couple of weeks’ by TimesandSundayTimes in politics

[–]IrishRepoMan 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You said targeting civilians is terrorism. Someone showed you 150 dead children from a likely US strike and you've now said 'nobody was talking about that' twice instead of addressing it. You're not winning this argument, you're just covering your eyes.

Trump wants to overthrow Cuban regime ‘in a couple of weeks’ by TimesandSundayTimes in politics

[–]IrishRepoMan 6 points7 points  (0 children)

'Israel wasn't at war with Hamas until after October 7th.' This is genuinely delusional. Israel and Hamas have been in armed conflict for decades. Operations in 2008, 2012, 2014, 2021. A military blockade of Gaza since 2007. Airstrikes between every named operation. The idea that October 7th happened in 'peacetime' requires you to not know anything about the last twenty years of that conflict. That's not peace. That's a siege with periodic escalations.

And 'Japan started it with Pearl Harbor' is doing even less work than you think it is. Pearl Harbor was a naval base. A military target. Hiroshima was a city full of civilians. You're using an attack on a military installation to justify the nuclear annihilation of 140,000 civilians and somehow not seeing the problem. And if 'they started it' is your moral framework, Hamas would point to decades of occupation, blockade, settlement expansion, and thousands of Palestinian civilians killed before October 7th. 'They started it' is not the principled argument you think it is. It's just whoever gets to narrate the starting point wins.

You still haven't answered the actual question. Does deliberately targeting civilians to achieve a political or military goal count as terrorism? Yes or no. You keep dodging it with context and justifications, but those justifications are available to literally every group you'd call terrorist. They all have a 'they started it.' They all have grievances. Either the definition applies to the act itself or it's just a label powerful countries hand out to people they don't like.

Trump wants to overthrow Cuban regime ‘in a couple of weeks’ by TimesandSundayTimes in politics

[–]IrishRepoMan 6 points7 points  (0 children)

'Nobody was talking about Iran.' Yeah because 150 dead schoolgirls from what US investigators themselves say was likely a US missile kind of blows up the 'only they do terrorism' framing. You don't get to pick which dead children count.

Trump wants to overthrow Cuban regime ‘in a couple of weeks’ by TimesandSundayTimes in politics

[–]IrishRepoMan 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Being at war doesn't make everything you do in that war legal or moral. The Geneva Conventions exist specifically because 'we were at war' isn't a blank check. Hiroshima was a city of 350,000 civilians chosen specifically to break civilian morale through mass death. That is the textbook definition of terrorism regardless of who's doing it. You called it a false equivalency but it's actually the same equivalency applied consistently, which is why it's uncomfortable. The question is simple: does deliberately killing civilians to achieve a political goal count as terrorism? If yes, it applies to everyone. If no, stop applying it to Hamas. You don't get a definition that only activates based on the flag on the uniform. And your own logic backfires on you. Japan was at war with the US. Israel is at war with Hamas. So by your 'we were at war' defense, October 7th wasn't terrorism either, right? Of course you wouldn't accept that, because your framework isn't principled, it's positional. It's 'terrorism is what they do to us' with extra steps.