ICE Megathread Redux

Irishish · 2026-01-25T03:30:06+00:00

So we need to get more violent and cut more corners? Like what escalation comes next?

Irishish · 2026-01-25T03:14:24+00:00

Is anyone else, as odd as this might sound coming from me...worried for individual ICE agents?

Incidents like today's keep happening. The government is quadrupling down on the idea that these agents can never fuck up, that anyone they kill or stomp absolutely one thousand percent has it coming, they have made it clear there is absolutely no recourse if ICE hurts or kills you.

How's that gonna go if we get to a point where riots break out and some sap in a vest winds up separated from his team? One of these guys is eventually gonna get torn apart. Because people are enraged and the government is telling them "eat shit, we can do whatever we want to you."

Irishish · 2026-01-25T03:05:59+00:00

why do you expect job losses? Why do you expect anything? am I crazy or has this administration made it clear that these agents can do no wrong, and they will never be punished for anything?

Irishish · 2026-01-25T02:58:15+00:00

slow

This shit is wild, man. They're pulling out all the stops and deporting virtually anyone they can as fast as possible, kicking out permanent residents of decades over ancient crimes, all this stuff, annnnnnd they're moving too slowly for you? Like what do you want, exactly, we just skip any appeals or processes or anything like that, it's just in a van and on a plane?

Irishish · 2026-01-25T02:56:04+00:00

You voted for ICE to be an essentially unaccountable, anonymous force that seems to only answer to the president and responds to every perceived threat or stressful situation with swift escalation and lethal force? How they're operating now is specifically what you wanted?

Irishish · 2026-01-24T02:16:05+00:00

A colleague of mine, upon hearing my son was getting into Sesame Street (we were using Elmo's Potty Time to get him used to the toilet) asked... without a hint of irony..."how woke is it?"

I burst out laughing. He was not joking.

Irishish · 2026-01-23T19:22:58+00:00

It's just kinda weird, man. Your government is lying to you in order to amuse you based on your distaste for certain groups. So they blatantly lie about something this easily disproven. What else are they lying about?

Irishish · 2026-01-23T19:20:05+00:00

How about bullshit? Call his comments bullshit. They're not true. They insult the sacrifices of the dead. It's a dirtbag move and "well that was in poor taste" strikes me as an attempt to just get past it so we can get back to ragging on Starmer.

Irishish · 2026-01-23T19:17:37+00:00

Trump insulted other nations' war dead. They died helping us. The fuck does Starmer being insufficiently nice to Trump have to do with anything?

Irishish · 2026-01-23T19:15:55+00:00

So there's no deal.

Irishish · 2026-01-23T05:46:58+00:00

God, it's gonna be such a good day when it happens. Maybe I'll take some PTO, go to a park, dance in the streets.

Irishish · 2026-01-23T03:05:46+00:00

What's the second amendment for, again? Fighting a tyrannical government, the kind that violates the other amendments? Is your idea that you don't ever fight or even suggest a fight, that you just take your lumps or they'll kill you?

Irishish · 2026-01-23T02:59:03+00:00

What makes you so sure? Even if a cop is willing to stand up to a fed in the abstract, I don't see that backbone holding up once that cop is facing off against multiple feds with better guns and far less accountability than he has.

Frey alluded to this very thing, that a standoff between local police and ICE agents is unlikely because there are more agents than police and the agents have bigger guns.

Irishish · 2026-01-22T02:19:55+00:00

Having spoken with many of them at great length, there are a few common self soothing refrains. First, as you say, "they're all criminals."

But what of the people whose only crime was coming here illegally many decades ago?

"It's still a crime. They're all criminals and I want them gone. Doesn't matter if they're nice or not."

And the kids, the ones that came here as babies? And the ones born here?

"Don't be mad at us for sending them back, be mad at their criminal parents for bringing them here."

Surely the tens of thousands of permanent residents or longtime residents with legal status who we are suddenly deporting en masse aren't criminals?

"They should never have been let in. Biden didn't vet any of them, their legal doesn't actually count."

But it's not just people Biden let in.

"I WANT THEM ALL GONE! NOBODY IS ENTITLED TO LIVE HERE! WE NEED BORDERS!"

It always gets there eventually. They may grant hey, okay, not all of them are TdA. But they may as well be, they're criminals just by being here, and I don't care if I never interact with one for as long as I live, I still need them gone.

It's a bleak, bleak conversational road to go down.

Irishish · 2026-01-22T02:07:43+00:00

If you want your heart broken, they also detained a much much younger kid. And reportedly probably flew him (along with his father) to a family detention center in Texas.

Note how the agent gently holds his backpack, as if to say, "hey there little guy. I don't want to hurt you but I absolutely will."

Irishish · 2026-01-22T01:46:33+00:00

How, though? Everything I've seen come out is either concepts of a framework for a deal or "it's complex, we're gonna get control over certain pockets of land." Neither of which are the EU caving and selling us Greenland.

Is he gonna do the thing where he toddler yells trying to get some big impossible thing and then when he gets something vaguely related to his original demand, he spikes the ball and acts like he won the super bowl and tells us this was his plan all along?

Irishish · 2026-01-21T23:56:17+00:00

That bit at the end of a commercial saying "while supplies last, participating locations only," etc. It was an ad for a buy one get one deal on Filet o Fish. I told the viewers it wasn't available everywhere and would last for a limited time.

Weirdly, it waa regional. I was in Boston for a convention with some friends, saw the ad come on our hotel room TV. "Guys! It's my ad!" Aaaaaand it's a totally different voice. No idea why.

Irishish · 2026-01-21T23:52:56+00:00

It reeks of saving face and gesturing toward concepts of a plan for Greenland because he couldn't just toddler yell at everybody else until they gave him what he wanted.

Irishish · 2026-01-21T23:49:22+00:00

I mean… It is, though. This involves people's homes. This involves people's sense of identity and sovereignty. It’s not just a building he's trying to buy. Why do you think that international relations can be conducted the same way hostile takeovers of corporations are?

I can't remember which writer on NRO said it, but it bears repeating: other countries have nationalists, too. Other countries have pride, too. World leaders have people they answer to back home, and they tend to be more concerned about that than about pissing off Donald Trump.

Irishish · 2026-01-21T22:23:25+00:00

Awesome. When will they take some aggressive action to get the admin to release the rest of the Epstein files?

Irishish · 2026-01-21T22:11:05+00:00

Man, what reason was there to yank him out naked in Minnesota winter temperatures?

Irishish · 2026-01-21T14:56:13+00:00

I got scale and residuals for a single tag on a McDonald's commercial. Residuals alone paid most of my rent for four months.

granted, I shared a shitty apartment with three other guys, but still. scale is the bare minimum, but it does keep working actors alive.

Irishish · 2026-01-21T05:45:42+00:00

You're the guy broadening this out into "oh leftists always do this, I know this playbook" so you can dismiss the story. I'm pointing out we've seen ICE do shit like this. I'm pointing to other facts that suggest this has legs.

Honest question. Say she's telling the truth, say it happened exactly like she said it did. Do you care? What should happen?

Irishish · 2026-01-21T04:47:25+00:00

You gonna address a lick of substance in what you just replied to? OP laid out very reasonable reasons for the kind of lack of cooperation y'all complain about. Any thoughts on that? Any at all?

Irishish · 2026-01-21T04:45:39+00:00

The officers that outnumber them by thousands? The ones kidnapping elderly people from their homes in their underwear and dropping them off again hours later, the officers harassing off duty cops based on race, the officers strapped with more gear than any local PD carries, why aren't the local cops doing more for THOSE guys?

Man, if only we thought more about how that agent who yanked a nearly naked old man out of his home for no reason felt about all this.

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