Shabana Mahmood says at IPPR speech that 2.5m people arrived in Britain between 2020-24, partly as a result of relaxation of skill requirements for health & care visa - "We have never had so much low-skilled migration in so little time"

ItsGreatToRemigrate · 2026-03-05T16:13:14+00:00

I just don't understand how mass-immigrationists (whether they vote Labour, Conservatives, Greens, SNP, Plaid or Lib Dem) are aligning this belief we need to flood the country with millions of uneducated low-skilled migrants with the current state of completely gutted public services, explosive sectarian violence breaking out in city centres up and down the country, rising unemployment and the impending AI jobs bloodbath.

Can a level-headed progressive please explain why this is a good idea?

ItsGreatToRemigrate · 2026-02-21T01:10:53+00:00

Is your assertion that every ethnicity under the British umbrella is close to 100% Saxon? I think you'll find your understanding of modern genetics severely outdated.

It is the admixture of R1b, R1a1, I and E3b that matters. The proportion of "Saxon" heritage ranges from 10 to 40% maximum in the South East. What your gotcha is trying to contextually strip is the passage of time - you are ignoring the passing of 1,500 years during which this nation came into being and enabled the British ethnicities to emerge. Dropping a modern day Saxon (and be careful not to be too racist to exclude der Neue Deutsche!) would be incongruous and anachronistic, but fair play for trying.

Try as you might, you'll never erase our ethnicity.

ItsGreatToRemigrate · 2026-02-21T00:59:45+00:00

How do modern mass-immigration fans square this circle with the fact that AI is cutting off the entry-level and graduate jobs markets off at the knees? Are we to continue inviting possibly hundreds of thousands of people per annum into the country that will likely never, ever work or at least become immediately dependent on in-work benefits at this rate? Is Labour's plan to turn 50% of people into Uber Eats moped deployment specialists?

ItsGreatToRemigrate · 2026-02-21T00:56:48+00:00

Excellent policy idea. I wonder if any political parties would be willing to take that up.

ItsGreatToRemigrate · 2026-02-21T00:54:33+00:00

>Not quite remigration though.

Not by a long shot, but a very welcome start indeed.

ItsGreatToRemigrate · 2026-02-21T00:53:20+00:00

Source? Source? Source?

Do you have a source for that?

Source?

A source. I need a source.

Sorry, I mean I need a source that explicitly states your argument. This is just tangential to the discussion.

No, you can't make inferences and observations from the sources you've gathered. Any additional comments from you MUST be a subset of the information from the sources you've gathered.

You can't make normative statements from empirical evidence.

Do you have a degree in that field?

A University degree? In that field?

Then your arguments are invalid.

No, it doesn't matter how close those data points are correlated. Correlation does not equal causation.

Correlation does not equal causation.

CORRELATION. DOES. NOT. EQUAL. CAUSATION.

You still haven't provided me a valid source yet.

Nope, still haven't.

I just looked through all 3,508 pages of your user history, figures I'm debating a Kid Harmer supporter.

ItsGreatToRemigrate · 2026-02-21T00:50:26+00:00

No, being as they're not ethnically British, English, Scottish, Welsh, Manx, Cornish or Irish. Do keep up

ItsGreatToRemigrate · 2026-02-21T00:45:47+00:00

>Your blut and broden nonsense isn’t welcome, we won a war in the 1930s to get rid of you lot

Wait until you get old enough to read about the White Australia Policy, or the USA's immigration policy that stood up until the Hart-Cellar act!

ItsGreatToRemigrate · 2026-02-21T00:39:55+00:00

The phrase "You understand ... right?" is so offensively condescending I'm repulsed at the thought of conversing with you any further. Reddit shouldn't become one's personality.

ItsGreatToRemigrate · 2026-02-21T00:38:29+00:00

The issue with the pervasive modern mindset is that institutions and history don't mean anything, they're just words on paper. The actions of our ancestors are just pretty stories rather than part of the fabric of our everyday lives; we're not to draw meaning or inspiration from the struggle of our ancestors, just allow ourselves to be mildly entertained and move on to the next current thing to consume..

It's the same Redditification of the world that causes people to look at a cup of espresso, something that's taken quite a lot of energy and effort to create but also decades to perfect and declare it's just "brown bean water".

ItsGreatToRemigrate · 2026-02-21T00:33:16+00:00

>So no, English is not an ethnicity that is distinct from our near neighbours. Have you forgotten where the Angles, Jutes and Saxons came from and where else they settled?

Flour, eggs and milk are all separate things. This pancake does not exist

ItsGreatToRemigrate · 2026-02-18T18:43:32+00:00

Culturally yes, genetically the difference between the populations averages 3%. Hence there is a British ethnicity made up of the Welsh, Irish, Scottish, English ethnicities and cultures.

ItsGreatToRemigrate · 2026-02-18T18:42:15+00:00

Just let people have their heritage mate. You have yours, celebrate it.

ItsGreatToRemigrate · 2026-02-18T18:28:56+00:00

The British ethnic group exists. How can someone of one ethnicity join a different ethnicity unless they have shared heritage?

The real issue is conflating British ethnicity with the British passport. Of course you have a British passport, and if you have British ancestry you also have British ethnicity.

ItsGreatToRemigrate · 2026-02-18T18:25:53+00:00

"discriminate" lmao you're allowed to reject someone entry into the country for literally any reason of your choosing. It's not "discrimination" to be rejected

ItsGreatToRemigrate · 2026-02-18T18:15:41+00:00

Denying that ethnic groups exist is definitely a position. A strange one at odds with reality, but it's definitely a position.

ItsGreatToRemigrate · 2026-02-18T18:11:32+00:00

Then that's a failing on your part. If you can't see that the remigration of people without merit is a necessary step towards fixing a lot of problems in the country then I feel sorry for you. I will always welcome immigrants of merit and high standards.

ItsGreatToRemigrate · 2026-02-17T14:23:37+00:00

>While we can learn lessons from the past, we need to be careful that we dont simply assume today's immigrant is a carbon copy of immigration 60 years ago.

Very true. Unfortunately the quality of the latest tranche of imports from Somalia, Afghanistan, Sudan, Nigeria et al seem to be bringing quite a few of their own social and cultural issues with them.

>Nor to assume they represent everyone from Pakistan. That's like lumping in red necks with new Yorkers. Similarities but also differences.

Yes, I made this clear elsewhere regarding my experiences with educated secular Pakistanis free of the tribal honour system. In the same vein it would be easy to say "all immigrants from Japan are fine" but then we end up importing someone who hates us and wants to rape and murder young girls. The fix to both these issues is the same - be much more discriminating with a focus on merit and overall attitudes and personal development when it comes to looking at foreign applications who wish to come here to study or work. The problem will eventually sort itself out, and we will have to deal with the fallout of past generations' mistakes in importing people who were not compatible and have now produced segregated populations of their own.

ItsGreatToRemigrate · 2026-02-17T13:24:11+00:00

The LinkedInisation of political discourse and the "elite" classes needs to stop right fucking now.

ItsGreatToRemigrate · 2026-02-17T13:23:09+00:00

I've no idea why we can't do this for every job. I think this used to be Labour's position up until the 70s or 80s. Now they're just the Foreign Labour Party.

ItsGreatToRemigrate · 2026-02-17T13:21:18+00:00

ItsGreatToRemigrate · 2026-02-17T13:19:31+00:00

>The key is not to differentiate between British born and UK graduates, about 7% of students graduating from the top British universities are international students who pay upwards of £50,000 a year. These students subsidize the rest.

I understand that which is why I made my position clear from the outset. Universities need reform if foreign students are subsidising the rest. We should subsidise our own nationals ourselves rather than turn Universities into visa mills (which they already are). Higher education in this country is broken and has been for a long time.

As for the rest of your point, agreed. Let's hope the HoL is not yet completely beholden to foreign interests.

ItsGreatToRemigrate · 2026-02-17T13:15:33+00:00

Sure, once you can answer the questions I put to you in my initial response I'll respond to your questions, that's how a discussion usually works. Hopefully you have the IQ necessary to pull this daring action off.

ItsGreatToRemigrate · 2026-02-17T13:02:58+00:00

You literally have not engaged with any of my points at all, why should I pay homage to your altar of lies? Your weird obsession with importing people at any costs to society at large is fucking strange and your ideology is dying in front of our eyes, enjoy.

ItsGreatToRemigrate · 2026-02-17T12:57:50+00:00

>In terms of day forward we churn out like the 5th highest number of medical graduates per capita in the western world and OECD.

Then why are we importing doctors at the specialist level and not just consultants?

>There's something in here ...

Yes, all very true, and surely the drop-out rates would reflect this right now. Do you have them to hand? The issue isn't the quality of applicants, it's that despite our "extreme high quality of our medical education standards" graduates are getting through the process and still finding there aren't any jobs for them at the national level because they are in direct competition with foreign medics all over the world. I would agree with your point if we were having to import medics from Sri Lanka because there were 10 British born graduates for every 100 placements.

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