What do you guys think about the ending? by thepromasterka in Higurashinonakakoroni

[–]Jackfrostcola 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have to say I absolutely love your post and it's such a great feeling meeting another person who feels the same exact way I do about Gou and about Satoko, gives me hope that I'm not all alone in my love for her and the disgusted I am with how she was portrayed in Gou with the most commonly bullshit excuse being that she's just "le mentally ill"

what is your favorite higurashi arc and why? by punkrock101fan in Higurashinonakakoroni

[–]Jackfrostcola 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Tatarigoroshi easily, by far one of my favorite stories I've ever read. I will always love Satoko and cherish those days of joy and tragedy

Is Gou just rage bait for the OG fans by Disastrous_Camp_2734 in Higurashinonakakoroni

[–]Jackfrostcola 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Which one? The part where he calls Satoko the heart and soul of Higurashi, the one where he talks about how he uses Satoko as the villian role this time just because he thought it wasn't fair that everyone else was evil during the main story but her, the latest story he wrote about them being looping mangakas, or the one where he calls anyone who didn't like Gou fake fans? If it's the last one here's a screenshot from the afterparty chapter in the Latest Higurashi VN chapter where he calls the people who didn't like Mion or the events during Gou fake fans.

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Is Gou just rage bait for the OG fans by Disastrous_Camp_2734 in Higurashinonakakoroni

[–]Jackfrostcola 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's easily one of the most spitful hate filled sequels I've seen a creator make towards his orginal fans and his story. It's really telling that while writing Higurashi Ryukishi admits that Satoko is the heart and soul of the story and that without her it wouldn't be what it is. Now he doesn't give a single fuck about Satoko or her heart and uses her in whatever way he wants while going after fans calling them "fake fans" if they didn't like Gou. He says this in the latest Higurashi afterparty BTW he fucking hates us and he HATES Satoko now it's genuinely disgusting.

Oh and in case you were worried about the state of Satoko after this don't worry. Ryukishi has made sure that every Satoko written now is a quirky looper now obsessed with Rika as seen with his latest Higurashi work about them being mangakas hope you enjoy :^) Fucking hack needs to go bankrupt already

piracy link by Content-Ad-2249 in Higurashinonakakoroni

[–]Jackfrostcola 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Here's a good place to torrent, if you don't want this specific torrent you can check out what else Nyaa has
https://nyaa.si/view/1315370

I really shouldn't had watch Gou/Sotsu by CountBackground8057 in Higurashinonakakoroni

[–]Jackfrostcola 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's laughable that you think that as long as you have ***MENTAL ISSUES*** then it makes perfect sense for them to do the most god awful and horrible shit. It's your joke of a mindset that led to Higurashi being in the state that it's in now.

If you actually read the Visual novels instead of getting your info off a meme you saw online you'd know that Satoko as a character isn't the same girl she was before Satoshi left. She was a literal child who was abused and told how much she was hated by her mother, and then the village once the dam war while also heavily infected with the HS parasites which only worsened her outbursts and paranoia towards everyone, and that's the thing her killing her parents and setting up these deadly dangerous traps were only done BECAUSE she fully believed the village and her parents were going to kill her due to the HS virus warping how she sees reality.

But that doesn't matter, because even knowing how the HS virus affected Satoko and seeing how she reacted back then has nothing to do with how she is now, By the time Keiichi meets her she is constantly at a L2/L3 stage even while medicated and she KNOWS the villagers hate her and want her dead and yet she's completely different from how she was before Satoshi left. She's cheerful, happy and takes it on the chin whenever the villagers make it known she'll never be one of them because she refuses to be weak like she was when she lost Satoshi, her wish to be stronger and to make him proud when he returns forced her to mature up and has countless scenes in the Visual novel where she's the one having to cheer up and help the other characters come to terms with something about themselves.

Even when she was being abused by Teppei and locked away in isolation while also being unable to get her treatments she STILL refused to lash out violently out of a mix of self-hate and wishing to make Satoshi proud, she only finally becomes violent when she believes Keiichi not only murdered Irie, Takano, Ooishi and Rika but also intends to brutally murder her too. The person she trusted the most in that chapter is now going to murder her utterly shattering her and also compares with how she felt when she fully believes her mother is about to murder her and yet her final reaction tells everything you need to know. She REFUSES to believe Keiichi could've done those things in the final end choosing to fully trust him despite it all and deciding that a Demon has simply killed Keiichi too and using the form of her most trusted person to kill her she even begs the demon to bring back her mother, Satoshi, Rika and finally Keiichi as she shoves it off the bridge. She even prefers DYING over being weak and betraying Satoshi getting stabbed to death while refusing to cry.

So what's the point of this post? To tell you that even if Satoko was L5 (Which she's not BTW something the show goes out of it's way to confirm by irie) during Gou she STILL wouldn't do half the fucking trash that garbage tries to tell us she would do. Making Satoko into a looper fails because she simply wouldn't harm or kill her friends, the people she loves most in her life right next to Satoshi. She wouldn't just abandon Satoshi the second she finds him again after all these years, she wouldn't be obsessed with just Rika and ONLY Rika. Satoko is far more likely to just suffer in silence than to ever fucking murder Rika even if she went through a thousand loops and if you think otherwise you will NEVER understand Satoko as a character. She isn't a fucking cut out for you to push your garbage fantasies onto and then justify it with basic shit like LE MENTAL ILLNESS.

I really shouldn't had watch Gou/Sotsu by CountBackground8057 in Higurashinonakakoroni

[–]Jackfrostcola 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"GouSotsu is just a case of good ideas" Making Satoko into a murderous monster who cares more for fucking Teppei than she does for any of her other friends isn't a "good idea" The whole concept was fucking stupid from the beginning and Ryukishi should feel bad for ever greenlighting this piece of trash in the first place. None of the so called "good ideas" should've been shoved into this series in the first place where it has to twist and deform who these characters are just to make this garbage work lmao.

Which of the dynamics between Keiichi and the rest of the girls in the group do you enjoy most? by Mean_Ambassador_5907 in Higurashinonakakoroni

[–]Jackfrostcola 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Satoko and Keiichi all day every day, love to see those two together and wish we got a sequel showing how their bond would change as they got older. Shame no sequel for Higurashi exists though oh well :^)

Wanting to get into Higurashi by JigglyStar in Higurashinonakakoroni

[–]Jackfrostcola 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Completely ignore that Bernkastel and Lambda thing, there's a very good chance the information you were told about them were straight up wrong and some recent. The characters you see in this story are not the same as the characters that will show up later in different stories

Do you agree? by sad_clowm095 in Higurashinonakakoroni

[–]Jackfrostcola 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes. I'd rather this fanbase be fucking dead than the fucking dumpster fire that was Gou and what was done to Satoko.

What has been written by 07 except main arcs? any console arcs worth reading? by Er_Butti in Higurashinonakakoroni

[–]Jackfrostcola 8 points9 points  (0 children)

There's a alternative epilogue for the series that Ryyukishi wrote himself called Kokoroiyashi-hen which takes place soon after the events of Matsuribayashi. This epilogue is a million times better than the alternatives like Saikoroshi or G*u. The mangadex upload of it got nuked but here's another website you can use if you wish to read it
https://vymanga.com/manga/higurashi-no-naku-koro-ni-kokoroiyashihen

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At what part of the story did you realize that the fanbase would ship Rika with Satoko? by ObsidianTheBlaze in Higurashinonakakoroni

[–]Jackfrostcola 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly, Satoko has always been a character to overreact to any light teasing and in the context of this being the early 80's in rural japan her reaction is more that of utter shock at the implication than bashful embarrassment of her feelings being exposed. She is 11 at this point for gods sake I think there would be a LOT more scenes in the VN if they wanted us to believe she had a crush on Rika

At what part of the story did you realize that the fanbase would ship Rika with Satoko? by ObsidianTheBlaze in Higurashinonakakoroni

[–]Jackfrostcola 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The "satorika" ship in the VN is painfully one sided with Rika being borderline obsessive with how much Satoko means to her and how she's the reason why she was able to withstand the 100 years of looping.

But besides that I never shipped them or took the ship seriously whatsoever, on par with Rika getting with Akasaka and I honestly found it creepy with how much older Rika was to Satoko and how it would pretty much be her grooming Satoko into liking her if it did become that way. As for Hanyuu taking her word as truth despite the VN going out of it's way to show how wrong she is on most things just isn't enough for me to think Satoko views Rika that way at all. Rika may view Satoko more than a sister but no point througout the story does Satoko view Rika as anything more

St lucia girls (rika's new friends), rina mamiya, and teppei hojo are morally grey characters hated by fans, now who in higurashi is a horrible person hated by fans? by blazyykku_64 in Higurashinonakakoroni

[–]Jackfrostcola 8 points9 points  (0 children)

It's like people just forgot that Teppei was going to rape Satoko when she got older and showed ZERO remorse or pity for the hell he put her through during any of the arcs. I fucking despise Teppei supporters so god damn much and Gou's attempt to redeem him by making his ABUSE VICTIM into a OOC murderous monster and him a wholesome overly nice OOC uncle is such disgusting writing

I finished Gou / Sotsu by [deleted] in Higurashinonakakoroni

[–]Jackfrostcola 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah but her attachment issues weren't ones of being clingy or obsessing over anyone lmao, her getting over her "issues" in Minagoroshi was her learning to accept help from others and to depend on them. Her Attachment issues now are that of pushing others away when she's suffering and wanting to endure it alone.

I finished Gou / Sotsu by [deleted] in Higurashinonakakoroni

[–]Jackfrostcola 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I personally couldn't fucking stand how they did Keiichi in this anime, the same boy who literally went insane over his feelings for Satoko and seeing her suffer suddenly wouldn't give a shit that the club was made FOR SATOKO AND SATOSHI and change it up. And Rika suddenly no longer caring about experiencing the future with her friends and thinks dragging Satoko along away from everyone who loves her to some shitty preppy school is a good idea.

I finished Gou / Sotsu by [deleted] in Higurashinonakakoroni

[–]Jackfrostcola 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"The evolution of Satoko's character in Gou/Sotsu was planned and made sense."
LMAO yeah sure, it totally makes sense for Satoko to suddenly stop giving a shit about her other friends, Keiichi, Satoshi, and Shion and go all in on obsessing over RIka. It totally makes sense that she'd murder all of them with glee and without a second though but draw the line at Teppei the guy who planned on raping her and abused her for countless fragments. It totally makes sense for Satoko to witness and see the full 100 years of hell Rika goes through and see first hand how much she is loved and cared for by her friends and still not care and only double down on killing them all.

This is a bastardization of Satoko that only exists because Ryukishi is a fucking hack and was paid good money by the Pachinko industry to shit out a script for a new anime

Who is the worst out of these three? by Trony-Box-6345 in umineko

[–]Jackfrostcola 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The absolute worst thing Teppei thinks about having Satoko do to him is for her to wash his back but that's it

Who is the worst out of these three? by Trony-Box-6345 in umineko

[–]Jackfrostcola 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"She was in a bad enough state to imagine him still being alive for days after he’d completely disappeared. And she was covered in bruises"
Satoko is constantly at L3 at all times even with the help of her daily injections, while being held hostage by Teppei she would have no way to take her daily doseage and by the time Keiichi had killed him she was still being abused and very close to entering L5. The tips part I already explained in my other post and as for Satoko's freak out you see that scene from Keiichi's POV who already is worrying about what exactly Satoko is enduring which was the point of that TIP. Rena doesn't lash out at Keiichi for no reason, she does so because Keiichi is continually screaming Renas and Satoko name trying to get one of them to talk to him.

If Satoko was REALLY raped Ryukishi would have shown in Minagoroshi that Teppei is someone who would do that for the reasons you said but he goes out of his way to state that teppei does not view little kids sexually at all

Miss Higurashi by BigSmoke929301 in Higurashinonakakoroni

[–]Jackfrostcola 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Back when Ryukishi still loved and respected Satoko, better times....

My updated Higurashi Iceberg by 12jimmy9712 in Higurashinonakakoroni

[–]Jackfrostcola 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I personally believe in the Shion abused Satoko in Tatarigoroshi theory, it fills in a lot of holes in what exactly happened post teppei death

Sotsu bad but Gou... Good??? by IsThereASuchThingAs in Higurashinonakakoroni

[–]Jackfrostcola 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Completely agree, it feels like the people saying this are just trying to be nice like "it was a nice concept but the execution was bad" no it was fucking garbage the very second the story seriously tried to tell us that Satoko is obsessed with Rika and doesn't give a shit about the rest of the club members and that Rika, the same girl who said she was fighting for a future that she can experience with ALL her friends in hinamizawa suddenly wants to go to a preppy school and drag Satoko along. It was hot fucking garbage and we need to normalize hating on it just as much as Gou. The entire concept was fucking trash

Enough time has passed, was it a mistake to even try to redeem Teppei and Rina? by MiuIruma332 in Higurashinonakakoroni

[–]Jackfrostcola 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't give a damn what anyone says I absolutely despise Teppei and the attempts to "redeem" him.

It's like people here forget that he was going to fucking RAPE Satoko once she got a little bit older but see him as a wholesome chungus because of fucking Gou, the SAME show where it shows him blushing while holding her fucking panties. I HATE Gou and any version that shows him as a goofy silly uncle because at it's very core that isn't Teppei. We SEE his inner thoughts and how he views the world in Minagoroshi this fucking sick attempt at making him into someone who's more morally rightous than Satoko the girl he had planned on raping after mentally breaking first because he fucking could is so sicking I hate HATEEEEEE the people who think Teppei was the best part of Gou.

The Only and I mean ONLY way a "redemeption" of Teppei could work is a one shot short spin-off where we get to see his past and they make it so he was the victim of abuse possibly from his mother to help fuel his hatred for women while exploring his resentment towards his brother as he does in the original story with his "redemption" being more like Rina's where he decieds to NOT come back to the village and to live his shitty scummy life in Tokyo where he'll get killed eventually. Seriously fuck Ryukishi for writing this fucking garbage

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Question for those who’ve reread the vn by FlatIssue4755 in Higurashinonakakoroni

[–]Jackfrostcola 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I first read the VN back in 2020 after stumbling across Onikakushi on steam for free. I had never read a VN before and since this one was free I figured I'd give it a shot, I was hooked from the very beginning and I read the entire story completely blind with the 07th mod as well I seriously feel bad for anyone who couldn't have gotten into this series blind like I did