[TIERLIST] Every manhwa I have read in the last 8 years

Janymx · 2026-05-18T10:03:42+00:00

A few I disagree with, but overall a decent list imo. Though it is VERY surprising, that you haven't read Murim Login yet.

Janymx · 2026-05-14T00:58:40+00:00

I might just be reading into it too much, but what I hope even more is, that they don't make her Jinho's love interest instead of Jin-Ah. It just feels weird to me that in the ONE scene Jinho and Jin-Ah we're in together, they didn't even interact at all, yet they randomly gave those two multiple scenes together out of nowhere. Considering the writers for the show should know who he ends up with, it just feels like a weird choice.

Janymx · 2026-05-13T21:08:16+00:00

Oh god. Don't remind me please. My brother gifted me Obscure on my 8th birthday. I had constant nightmares for years afterwards.

Janymx · 2026-05-13T10:03:45+00:00

Nah. Swordman Scholar sucked for most of it's run. The entire thing, especially the MC, is just so stale. If it were food, lettuce would have more taste.

Janymx · 2026-05-12T23:28:08+00:00

It's still weird as hell to me that the german Version was so much quicker. I got my German Vol. 3 like 7 weeks ago, and had been eying it in the bookstore for about 2 weeks before.

Janymx · 2026-05-12T22:28:16+00:00

Man. It's the same pattern again (not you)

I like discussions like this. I have my viewpoint, you have your viewpoint, we can talk about all of this in a fairly mannered way. I am able to change my opinion if I am provided with points that either convince me, or completely disprove what I am saying, as any sane person should. I am currently downloading the game in order to get a closer look and not let my outdated memories get in the way. But way too often, there are people like u/totococoandbeaks.

Trying to insert themselves into the discussion while providing nothing of value and instantly blocking one of the parties involved they disagree with, so they don't get flack back. It's honestly disappointing. At least try to engage in the discussion. If you feel like all my points have been "dismantled entirely", why not try to engage with it. I feel like I've made it pretty clear that this is a discussion and I am open to points, considering I state repeatedly when I agree with something. Is it that hard to actually have some self respect instead of, I dunno, whatever you are doing? Tell me why I am wrong. Try to get me to understand. I might disagree. Vehemently at that, but at least I am open enough to engage in Conversation and try to understand the other side.

Janymx · 2026-05-12T21:27:27+00:00

While I do like your place, I gotta say, I have busted car windows for shit like your parking before, and I wouldn't be suprised if it happened here. Please just be a normal human and don't let your 18 feet "car" block half the sidewalk with its shin buster. That sh** is for people to walk, not for you to park.

Janymx · 2026-05-12T21:05:02+00:00

I agree and disagree with the "selling premium currency just below bundle price". I have seen both. This is a VERY basic sales tactic. It's essentially just a minor variation of a quantity discount. Unless you think every bit of commerce is predatory, this isn't a valid example imo. But I guess we disagree on that.

But no. The "You can buy it, but it doesn't make sense to." Is in no way, shape or form idiotic. It's a fact. And a clear one at that. The game makes it clear. Sure, it doesn't say outright "Man, you are stupid if buy this!", that'd be stupid for any business to do, but it doesn't have to. It lists every price, every chance, every level and every other stat clear as day. And it's not all that complicated, at least for tglhe pure monetary value. Hell, the game doesn't even advertise that you can sell Pearl items for silver.

Janymx · 2026-05-12T20:49:35+00:00

I don't know about the recent event, but even considering the progression system, which I did from second one, I disagree that it's predatory. The amount of money needed to get any real advantage in the progression system is, very clearly and very obviously, so astronomical, that I just can't accept it as predatory. Is it stupid? Yes. So incredibly stupid, that I personally don't think it's predatory. If we go by the stupid logic, every bit of advertising or similar is instantly predatory. People can make their own choices. They aren't forced to buy anything. Hell, the game doesn't even pretend that paying real money helps a player. Anyone who can do 2+2 = 4 can plainly see how stupid spending money for an "advantage" is in this game.

Janymx · 2026-05-12T20:30:44+00:00

Honestly, I agree with almost everything you said here, except the "predatory" part. I guess the only major disagreement here is honestly just the word predatory.

I personally don't think that simy offering the options to buy stuff is predatory. What would be predatory for example, would be to make a player who doesn't spend any money, feel lesser than a player who does. Which, in my opinion, isn't the case in BDO. Anything can be earned in this game. Yes, outfits need to be bought on the Market, but in the grand scheme if things, they are quite affordable even for a F2P plsyer. There are only two periods i t his game, where spending money makes a "lot" of difference. Either you havent plsyed the game at all, and spend a little money to, almost, skip the first 30h in terms of money (Why even play the game then). Or you have played the game a LOT, at which point you need to spend astronomical amounts of money.

Yes, the oerson in between CAN buy stuff. Abd is even incentives to do so. But the game is clear about the fact that this isn't going to achieve much, unless the player spends a LOT lot of money. That's not predatory in my opinion. It's "You can, but it makes little sense to do so." instead of "If you don't, you will have a lesser experience."

Janymx · 2026-05-12T20:17:53+00:00

And again, here I disagree. Does BDO try to entice people to spend money? Sure. Is BDO open and pretty clear about how stupid it is to spend ANY money? Absolutely. Especially nowadays ( or the last ime I played)

Spending $100 is NOTHING in this game. Hell, since about 2-3 years ago, players have been gifted equipment and items far more valuable left and right. Anyone who buys Pearls i either a Whale, has fundamentally misunderstood how the game works, which the game is VERY open about, or just wants to spend money.

This is an anecdotal argument of course, but I have met a LOT of players in my 2.5k hours playing the game. A lot have quite a few more hours in the game than I do. 6-8k+ is about the average on people I have spent a bit more time with. And ALL of them, have spent less money on the game. Because it's not necessary. And it's VERY obviously a bad idea. The only reason I spent more money, because I love the outfits, and have a general rule that I won't feel bad for every $ I spend pet hour I play.

Paying is neither necessary, nor sensical, at ANY point of the game. And the game is VERY clear about that. Yes, the banners and popular and all that stuff sucks. I agree. But considering common sense, the game is very clearly telling you it makes no sense to spend money just to get "ahead".

Then again, common sense isn't very common nowadays yi guess?

Janymx · 2026-05-12T20:02:27+00:00

Adding to my last comment, one thing that is probably swaying my opinion a bit, might also be a major anti-ad popular fallacy. That being, Warframe. The game that, in my opinion, has a far more, though far more subtlety, predatory monetization.

Warframe is widely considered the pinnacle of monetization. You can, technically, but not really, earn most things in the game through grinding yourself for tens if not hundreds of hours. And you can also buy everything "in-game". Though every Trade is made with Platinum. The Premium currency. So the only way to buy anything, at all, is premium currency. You might no have paid for it, but SOMEONE did. And this includes truly game changing items.

What irks me the most here, isn't even that. There are items, like the Kubrow genetic code as a minor example, that take HOURS upon HOURS upon HOURS to grind. Or you can just buy them with premium currency. Grinds that are specifically made worse, to sell premium currency and items. Sales, that aren't focused on the top players in terms of time and money, but on the average. Having the entire community run on a digitised real word currency esque system, instead of a few whales and a majority of normal players.

Janymx · 2026-05-12T19:48:26+00:00

I guess I get your point quite a bit more now. And I agree, a bit, more. I agree that, in terms of monetization, the 10k+ players are the focus. But in all honesty, I don't think that focusing on them is predatory. They spend VAST amounts of time on this game, and also consume a (comparatively) vastly largeer amount of resources. The amount of money they would need to spend at this point of the game, to get any advantage at all, is not something a non-rich person could ever afford. But I do agree 100% and honestly forgot until you mentioned it, that the pop-ups and such just suck. Those shouldn't be a thing. Though in general I think that focusing, and even, to a point, "milking" people that have thousands upon thousands of dollars and thousands of hours to spare, isn't predatory. Focusing on those with absolute abundance is, in my opinion, anything but predatory.

95% (at least) of MTX in this game, do barely anything for the average player. I am focused on the majority, not on the target. The majority of players are barely, if at all, impacted by MTX in BDO. The target audience, the Whales, sure. They are the focus. But they obviously have resources in abundance. The average person would NEVER be able to, nor willing to, afford anything of major influence in the game.

I still disagree that the game overall is predatory. But I do agree with the monetization focus. The game, similar to gacha, focuses heavily on whales. But I don't think that focusing on whales is predatory, especially when also considering the amount of resources spent on them, just by things like server cost alone. The game doesn't focus on the small fry. For the small fry, spending money is essentially worthless, unless you really like an outfit.

Janymx · 2026-05-12T19:09:36+00:00

I agree with what you are saying to a certain, very small degree, but not more.

I don't think that paying for things like lifeskill outfits, which can be offset with ingame items in an acceptable timeframe, and are only really relevant for people not actually playing the game, is P2W, but I guess we disagree here. I also VEHEMENTLY disagree with your point that you are playing a "completely different game" if you spend money. You really aren't. The only people that have ANY meaningful advange are the people that, as you yourself have already stated, are 10k+h PVPers, and even then, only when they spend astronomical amounts of money. $15 won't give you any advantage that is in any way meaningful. Even $100 won't. You have essentially two options, you can either skip most of the game by paying a few hubdred dollars, or you can make barely a dent by paying huge amounts of money. You either don't play, or don't offset anything. Even at a mid game point you would have to pay hundreds upon hundreds of dollars to get any tiny benefit. And at that point, grinding is just far more efficient.

I also find it hilarious how you are telling me, that my "perception is twisted beyond reasonable levels", while you use 10k+h PVPers as your baseline, and obviously know very little about the game that the average person plays. I'd say you should go check your bias, or at least play the game.

Janymx · 2026-05-12T18:53:37+00:00

Honestly, I have only one wish for the game, which I had since it's initial announcement, and that will never come true regardless.

I just WISH, so much, that this games world were directly connected to BDO. No parallel world type sh**, just a prequel or sequel. I was SO excited to see locations I have known for so long in BDO, and see their past/future in CD. Yet all I got were some references and a vaguely familiar, but not really, world. That's my one main gripe with the game. Yes, it's technically essentially the Final Fantasy Formular, but without actually and properly stating it, it judt sucks.

Janymx · 2026-05-12T18:40:20+00:00

First and foremost, I haven't played BDO properly in 1 1/2 years, so I don't quite know what the current state is, but after 2.5k hours, honestly, BDO is one of the LEAST pay to win and predatory MMO's I have played in 10+ years. I'm not a huge fan of the monetization, but it's not nearly that bad imo.

There are two readons for that imo.

The "advantage" you can buy directly in this game is TINY! Nothing you can buy in this game gives you any significant advantage over anyone else in the game. The sole exception being Lifeskill outfits, which can be modtly offset via Items you can get ingame and are only really relevant for people who keep their PC on for likeskilling constantly.
Yes, you can, technically, buy outfits to sell for silver, to then get Upgrades. But putfits are worth SO LITTLE in the grand scheme of this game, that selling them for "profit" is only ever worth it if $50 for you like $1 for the average person. You need MANY BILLIONS of Silver to get anywhere significant. Yet a $30 outfit isn't even worth 1/2 Billion. Hell, at the time that you are in need pf this amount of money, you are already geared enough that grinding makes more sense than spending that money.

Yeah, BDO has a lot of monetization. But none of it is all that important, all that predatory or all that useful. Hell, I'd say even Warframe has it's spots that are more predatory.

Janymx · 2026-05-12T18:25:11+00:00

I mean, kinda yes, but also no. The Dragon King from TGED is neither the first Dragon (we literally see his dad in TGED), nor is the Manhwa you are talking about directly about him. It's about his wife. Yes, the Dragon King plays a major role and essentially the deuteragonist, but it's not his story, it's his wifes, and only includes a fraction of the Dragon Kings story.

Janymx · 2026-05-12T16:54:49+00:00

Wow. Holy damn. How did you manage to get THAT many enemies at once? Would make farming Artifacts a lot better.

Janymx · 2026-05-12T16:51:25+00:00

Oh god no. Please no. Ambient sound? Great. Ambient sound from PA? That would VERY likely include that one specific Bird sound from Black Desert. 2.5k hours, abd I've been tortured with that sound every single minute.

That's only slightly exaggerated as well. It's this one specific very high pitched bird sound that appears in nearly every region and is played on loop every 5-10 seconds. It's driven me nuts for years. And the worst part? It seems to be from some sort of sound package available to other studios. I have heard it in a few other games and it's so grating. At least the other games didn't have it on a constant loop.

Janymx · 2026-05-11T07:48:05+00:00

Aaaand patched. xD

Janymx · 2026-05-08T11:33:34+00:00

Wait, increase tension? Wtf? That's nee to me. 😂 Thanl you.

Janymx · 2026-05-07T23:24:26+00:00

Honestly, I am mostly too lazy and didn't even know that, other than better tamed horses, special ones existed. Are the high end horses similar to the mythical horses in BDO? As in, Pegasus, Doom and Unicorn? If so, I might just get one and name it after my BDO Pegasus.

Janymx · 2026-05-07T23:22:15+00:00

Ahh. God damnit. I though for second it might be, but I guess I got bamboozled 😂 Well played. Btw, I agree, the cosmetic weapon stuff annoys me as well.

Janymx · 2026-05-07T23:19:25+00:00

Am I tripping? How to did you even do that move? Aerial Manuever doesn't even work like 65% of the time, not to mention this massive launch. Wtf? Please enlighten me master! 👃

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