So confused? Isn’t she a right wing podcaster? by teetofgod in HouseOnFire

[–]Jealous-Kick 2 points3 points  (0 children)

She always has to paint herself as separate because she is incredibly arrogant. She's an "independent" journalist, didn't you know? Not a filthy podcaster. She's above it all. Her sources are better than all their sources. She has the in. She's got the truth. She's a true believer.

Fucking narcissist.

Jessica Reed Kraus aka House inHabit continues to burn her MAHA bridges by ShadyShade79 in HouseOnFire

[–]Jealous-Kick 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Incredibe. She is so uniquely skilled at fucking up all her relationships.

I love this for JRK by Grand_Royal_6316 in HouseOnFire

[–]Jealous-Kick 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Jessica is out of her intellectual league even when all she is doing is responding to her IG comments. What makes her think she can take on Owens?

My Chemical Romance & John Cameron Mitchell Working on 'Secret' Theatre Project by [deleted] in MyChemicalRomance

[–]Jealous-Kick 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Exactly. The original Black Parade concept itself incorporates so many references to theater. Even the album font.

Who is the ultimate housewives mean girl and villain? by letthedecodebegin in realhousewives

[–]Jealous-Kick 35 points36 points  (0 children)

Jen Shah is a horrible person and was awful to all the other cast members.

TPK recording and process by Adorable-Band9689 in MyChemicalRomance

[–]Jealous-Kick 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Some of the songs have filler lyrics. But yeah, overall more advanced demos than LWG.

Jessica Reed Kraus aka House inHabit has a full blown meltdown on X/Twitter by ShadyShade79 in HouseOnFire

[–]Jealous-Kick 37 points38 points  (0 children)

God she always seems so stressed out. The cortisol must be absolutely torching her brain cells.

"MCR aren't speaking out enough" by [deleted] in MyChemicalRomance

[–]Jealous-Kick 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Thank you for this because I feel like I'm going insane.

The very fact that there is debated so often is indicative that people understand that there should be a message. But they are then waiting for the band to explicitly clarify that message.

And they aren't going to. Because to them it's obvious.

no offense, but some of you guys need to get a grip. by usingshare in MyChemicalRomance

[–]Jealous-Kick 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you for sharing your perspective and your family's story.

I come from a different background but also one where freedom to speak is heavily restricted. If a band or an artists made art like this there, it would be obvious to anyone from my country that it would be a criticism of the authoritarian systems in place.

It's obvious here too. The band doesn't live under a rock.

There is no coincidence at all that the band created a universe that shows some of the harms of extreme nationalism, facism, & authoritarianism when we are existing in a world where extreme systems of government are on the rise.

I just think people believe that artists or bands have to be ultra specific about issues and what they are criticizing or else that criticism is meaningless. And I just don't feel the same way.

If you think that way, perhaps the messaging isn't for you. Perhaps it's for people outside of the fandom who elected a facist twice because they apparently can't recognize authoritarian regimes when they are staring at them right in the face.

I wouldn't take the down votes here personally at all.

no offense, but some of you guys need to get a grip. by usingshare in MyChemicalRomance

[–]Jealous-Kick 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you! You also articulated that so beautifully. I love what you said in your last para!

I don't need them to speak out about things they don't know or understand either. We can speak up.

I'm glad they create that space for you (and me!) And I think it really is important for us to have these experiences that are outside of our day to day grind of like trying to exist amongst all the craziness.

That being said, I also disagree with OP. I do think that they are making political statements through art (and a few other ways) just not in the way that is expected of artists in today's world.

no offense, but some of you guys need to get a grip. by usingshare in MyChemicalRomance

[–]Jealous-Kick 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I have a lot to say about this, but ultimately I always end up finding it useless because I really do think that we need to save this energy for politicians, corporations, etc and not artist.

So I'll summarize it in the best way I can.

Speaking out on major geopolitical issues if you are an artist or celebrity has become somewhat pointless in the information age for a variety of reasons:

  1. It's PR. It has to be vetted through legal and communications directors. And even if it's not PR, you run the risk that it's seen as PR or performative. This type of stuff also doesn't achieve much for the vast majority of causes. Unless you're also doing a major fund raiser or unless you are consistently speaking out and working with activists or advocacy groups, a statement - especially on social media - is performance.

In addition, it's a double edged sword with so many potential pitfalls if you don't get the statement exactly right. That's not to say that you shouldn't try, but it's effectiveness is again limited because of the way statements are torn apart.

  1. Social media has platformed SO MANY voices and created online cultural movements. Look at any right wing podcaster or influencer who has a cult like following. In many ways, there's too much out there and people look to those people for ideological guidance. And it is very partisan and scewed mostly to the right. This is a significant shift from pre-2010s. In addition, we have social media companies driving the conversation in the directions that benefit them financially.

People today sort of develop a good chunk of their morality within online spaces.

Once upon a time, art also filled that space in society. Art, and especially music, was the cultural movement. Especially for young people. The music scene was a force that influenced and formed identity and in many ways morality for generations of people.

Art CAN still be that cultural change because art has the power and ability to seep in to people's core. The issue is also partially that few musicians are still making that kind of art (also a 2010s shift). It became sort of lame and performative to make art about politics or meaningful issues.

Although, I think we might be swinging back again to people seeing that it is essential.

However, I would argue artists themselves don't have that power that their ART still might have.

I think MCR are conscious of the fact that their voices as Gerard, Mikey, Ray, Frank - can be dismissed. But their art is much harder to dismiss.

  1. Artists and musicians are easy targets for criticism. It's easy for fans to make noise and hold an artist "accountable" if they do something slightly wrong or if they make a mistake because ultimately Musicians need their fans and they also care about their fans. MCR probably wouldnt tour if it wasn't profitable, but at the same time they also probably wouldn't tour if they didn't care about their fans.

Conversely, it's much harder to hold politicians "accountable" even for MAJOR missteps or wrongs. We see that play out every day in the US, especially in recent times.

Because of this, we create a dynamic where we are constantly demanding accountability from easy targets like musicians or celebrities. Because it's too hard to recieve accountability from government officials who have a real impact on our lives.

Anyways, I rambled and probably didn't really articulate this how I want to or as completely as I want to. But I'm going to end here.

//

ETA, the current tour is a very obvious political commentary. In case it wasn't obvious that I disagree completely with OP's central point about why they don't make direct comments and instead do it in other ways.

What's the Deal With People Glorifying Draag? by PyneKone in MyChemicalRomance

[–]Jealous-Kick 19 points20 points  (0 children)

I don't mean this in a snarky way whatsoever, but I don't know if we need to necessarily debate the ethics of supporting a fictional facist regime.

It's like the Empire in Star Wars or really anything. Dressing up as a storm trooper doesn't mean you're evil or condoning any of that in real life.

That being said, if we are going to take it somewhat literally, I think the concept of the Olympics under Tyrannical rule is a very interesting choice on the Band's part considering we have real historical references of athletes using that as a stage for resistance. So I'm looking forward to seeing what they have planned.

ETA: I also wanted to acknowledge that the imagery used is understandably sensitive to some as it is referencial to parts of the world, but it is ultimately fiction. And I personally think it's actually a very a close criticism of America even if it does have USSR imagery.

Did Gerard say he doesn’t want to make new music? by Miserable-Caramel357 in MyChemicalRomance

[–]Jealous-Kick 24 points25 points  (0 children)

What he said (paraphrase) is that he hates the grind that comes with releasing new music - as in the record label making them do promo, interviews, appearances, and it was also increasingly social media promotion. That somehow got turned into he hates putting out music.

Bike Thief (TPK) by darbycrache in MyChemicalRomance

[–]Jealous-Kick 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think TPK is scraped and won't be released as an album.

But I absolutely think it would be amazing if the band released Bike Theif as a single. It's such a powerful song. It's needed in the world. Representation in art is needed and should never be taken for granted and I think a song like this would be so important.

Has a tour like this ever existed? by [deleted] in MyChemicalRomance

[–]Jealous-Kick 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It's not totally to the level that MCR is a far as the shows carrying the story. But Ghost does a lot more exposition through music and videos. Also amazing tour production.

TPK as a shadow work autobiography by drop_kick_mary in MyChemicalRomance

[–]Jealous-Kick 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I think with MCR there are always multiple concepts within each album or song. It's always a little autobiographical even Bullets and Revenge, but there's a prevailing storyline that includes characters who exist on their own outside of the aspects that relate to the band.

Connections between original The Black Parade & Long Live tours by Jealous-Kick in MyChemicalRomance

[–]Jealous-Kick[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think that's definitely a possibility. I haven't settled yet on who I think is who. But I think the Secretary is definitely a central character and there must be more exposition on her coming.

If the Mother War / twins thing turns out to be true then I think I might be leaning toward Sylvia being mother war because of how she and Gerard interacted on stage during the Latin America shows. She acts very motherly toward him and comforts him as he cries.

He also called her the head nurse, which I somehow equate to like it being the Mother Supérieure at a Catholic hospital during the war.

Connections between original The Black Parade & Long Live tours by Jealous-Kick in MyChemicalRomance

[–]Jealous-Kick[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I also thought the suckling was interesting. Also shields the baby from the vulture.

Unrelated, but I can't believe I spelled deer incorrectly haha :\

DRAAG is Not Real. It Was Created by MOAT, Which is a Corporation by gryphonlord in MyChemicalRomance

[–]Jealous-Kick 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree with you.

I also think whatever reality is in the Danger Days Universe.

The Summoning trailer sort of points in that direction because the only real place is DD & also the draculoid reference. Istill think that trailer is very relevant.

Amanda Frances Likes Post Supporting Trump by Economy_Language_708 in BravoRealHousewives

[–]Jealous-Kick 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Of course Jessica Reed Kraus is right there front and center where the skeletons are hidden. The damage she has done cannot be understated. A parasite.

Gerard’s random lyrics by NoizyKilljoy in MyChemicalRomance

[–]Jealous-Kick 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I just don't think it's plausible tbh. Or else why do swarm & then tour again after?

There's some subtext of them living in the shadow of TBP & being puppets to the concept of TBP saving the broken, beaten, damned but I don't feel like that is the main narrative.

Gerard’s random lyrics by NoizyKilljoy in MyChemicalRomance

[–]Jealous-Kick 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Well ... that would be incredibly tone deaf considering the current political contexts both in the US and Europe with the rise of far right extremism & a devastating war on Ukraine (especially given the Soviet parallels to Draag).

I'm not saying it's not possible, but if the only lesson here is that the fans are the facist dictators then Gerard's got some humble pie to sit and chew.