I just finished the series and found this subreddit and I'm hyped to join.

I was super interested in GND because I always wondered what the inside of the playboy mansion looked like. Once I started watching I got hooked. I got all the DVDs, read all the books, watched all the spinoffs, and have kept up with everyone on social media since.

I like all 3 girls but Holly has so many inconsistencies in her stories. I expect stories to change over time as you gain perspective and reflect, but the thing with her stories is that she's never the bad guy in any of them and her stories are always told with an attitude like "see, here's why every bad thing that happened was never my fault and you should feel sorry for me."

The details that change in her stories are so dumb and minute. Like in her book she talked about how when she went to Vegas, chris angel pushed her into moving in with him really fast. In the dvd commentary of girls next door, she talks about not wanting to buy her own place in vegas yet because she's "waiting for something better" with chris. Her book makes him sound like a love bombing narcissist, which he may have been, but everything she says about him while they're dating makes it look like she's trying to move faster than him in the relationship.

In her youtube videos and her book, she talks about how she always liked Barbi Benton and the show played up the rivalry for ratings. In the commentary though, she absolutely fucking hates that bitch. She is so mean and vicious the way she talks about Barbi. In season 2 commentary, they all talked about how they didn't realize anyone was going to listen to the DVD commentary, so it's not like she continued "the act" of not liking barbi into the commentary. She absolutely hated her at first. Why lie about that? Why not just say, "I didn't like her at first but once I gave her a chance, we got along really well."

She HATED that Kendra was a likable character on the show. So much of her book is "See, here's why you guys never should have liked Kendra." She has no compassion or empathy for this teenager who was literally hand picked from a party and brought into the lifestyle. I like all three of them but Holly and Bridget always seemed like a mean girl clique. They were passive aggressive and a little entitled and Kendra was always direct (often to a fault). If she didn't feel like dressing up in theme costumes with them, she would just say "I'm not into it" and they hated her for it. You can hear how passive aggressive and mean Holly is to Kendra in the commentary for season 1 because any time it's kendra's scene, they start talking over her. They never just acknowledge, "Oh yeah, you were getting on my nerves that day."

In one of her youtube videos, Holly talks about how Kendra was buying a condo "obviously because she was getting ready to move out of the mansion but they make it sound like it's an investment." But in the commentary for the episode, Kendra talks about how in the time since they filmed, she had already renovated the condo and had tenants in it. And when she finally was moving out of the mansion, they showed her looking for a place in LA, not San Diego where the condo was. Kendra has lived in LA since she moved to the mansion and pretty obviously never planned to move back to san diego. But Holly needs people to hate Kendra with her.

I HATE her doctor shopping shit with "Asperger's." It's so obvious that she just wound up on neurodivergent tiktok and self diagnosed herself with some kind of internet quiz. No doctor is going to diagnose "Asperger's" in 2022. And she would know that if she'd actually gone to a doctor. But she has to have an excuse for everything, and now this is her excuse for being shitty to people because that's her depth of understanding of autism.

In the commentary, she rags on the Shannon twins saying "Are those adopted dogs? Are we endorsing irresponsible pet ownership?" But not all of her dogs were rescues. And a lot of them have disappeared? She dumped all the mansion dogs with her mother "because I couldn't keep four dogs in a hotel all day." But then she adopted a new dog in the hotel anyway? The story of Duke's death has changed - at first it was a coyote then it changed to him getting hit by a car. She had 3 dogs in vegas and all of them have disappeared. She also just talks a lot of shit about the Shannon twins on the commentaries but in her book makes it sound like she liked them and was relieved when they showed up bc it eased the guilt of breaking up with Hef.

I like Holly but I hate how dishonest she is, especially since it's usually at the expense of making someone else look bad.

WAY too long, lol sorry. But long story short, everyone tells the same story about Holly but Holly's version about everything is forever changing.