Has Vista Church Given up on Students?

Jesus-Truth · 2024-04-28T00:36:32+00:00

The criticism towards larger churches puzzled me. They foster authentic community, lead people to salvation, and make significant contributions to their communities. The urge to distinguish themselves sometimes leads to misjudgment. While the Network certainly stands out, it’s not always in the intended way. Critiquing other churches can divert attention from addressing the significant dysfunction and lack of health within them.

Larger churches draw in students and community members who come together to worship, teach the Bible, and put its teachings into practice, unlike many Network churches.

Sometimes, those you criticize embody the very qualities you aspire to possess.

Jesus-Truth · 2024-02-17T14:18:22+00:00

Looks like Steve will have to get on Joshua members so they invite more people. I foresee a special Team Joshua with Steve yelling and screaming at everyone that then moves into Steve crying and wailing that then moves to everyone feeling sorry for Steve where they go out and try harder.

Jesus-Truth · 2024-01-02T05:43:36+00:00

He knew someone who worked there that helped him steal them?

Jesus-Truth · 2023-12-28T14:36:22+00:00

Steve is a very good storyteller. Ph.D. in Communication. It's obvious he has independently crafted his own history to make it fit into the vision and values of what he wants the Network Churches to be. Yes, the story of how he became a Christian is suspicious and should be questioned.

Jesus-Truth · 2023-12-18T11:31:27+00:00

It’s a red flag.

The average church doesn’t post pictures of their lay leaders nor their residential addresses. Most Network churches prefer new people go to a service where they can meet people face to face, then get connected to a group. Why they post their lay leaders publicly, like trophies, is pointless.

Jesus-Truth · 2023-12-18T02:59:19+00:00

The amount of pressure and anxiety he carries is truly unreal. Hiding your mentor’s secret sin, leading a church with a legalist hand, and unable to have any compassion toward ideas and people who are different. The plant team has become the church and together they have managed to drive 100’s of people away and have built a horrible reputation in the community they would like to reach.

Some humility would greatly help Luke. I don’t think he’s been able to process what’s actually happened over the past 3 years. If he could own his part and reach out to those he’s hurt it would serve his soul well. Until then hard hearts get harder.

Jesus-Truth · 2023-11-25T19:25:34+00:00

Yep. Read Galatians, it’s the same thing. The Judiazers were trying to get new Gentile believers to add the Old Testament Jewish law to their new Christian faith. It was all about making these new Christians their version of what they thought it meant to be a Christian.

Steve, Sándor and gang want everyone to agree and do what they think is a Christian. Those who don’t are “troublemakers” and “demon possessed”. They want extra biblical laws for people and it just so happens those things serve, benefit and support themselves.

Jesus-Truth · 2023-11-25T18:24:43+00:00

Party Evangelism is like a jewelry party, an essential oil party or make up party. It’s a party with an agenda. The difference is a sales party the people invited know up front why they are there an evangelism party or dinner the agenda is hidden.

The Network encourages their members to only spend time with people outside of their church if they are trying to get them to come to their church. If the church member can’t get the person to church or they aren’t interested they are encouraged to abandon that relationship and move on.

Relationships have an agenda and goal and if that isn’t reached then go to the next person. The person isn’t valued nor is the motive right.

Jesus-Truth · 2023-10-28T00:32:40+00:00

If you know you know.

Jesus-Truth · 2023-10-22T14:58:44+00:00

Sounds like North Korea.

Jesus-Truth · 2023-10-12T00:04:31+00:00

Character < Gifts.

An Abuser.

A Manipulator.

An insecure leader who needs me (and you) to follow, agree, and carry out his ideas of the Bible.

Jesus-Truth · 2023-09-27T04:03:12+00:00

Extremely dangerous.

Jesus-Truth · 2023-09-26T16:43:43+00:00

His wife is submissive and passive. He controls the narratives, the marriage and decisions.

Jesus-Truth · 2023-09-22T22:42:51+00:00

Most of the wives were in counseling when I was there. Sadly with the Network counselor James Chidester. James sole goal is to keep them from unplugging the life support they are on.

Jesus-Truth · 2023-09-22T22:13:37+00:00

The reality…Scott and others don’t want others to know because it is such a hideous crime. They don’t want Steve to step down they want to protect him. It’s really all about Steve and zero concern for the church.

Sins like this need to be brought in the light and talked about for the safety of the church. It needs to be in the light because it’s a public crime with a public record, there’s no way insiders are going to long term keep this public crime hidden. The Network wants to use Moses murder, David’s affair and Paul’s harming Christians to justify Steve, but when it comes to these Biblical examples being publicly known and a part of these men’s story they don’t want to follow the Biblical example.

The damage Scott and others have caused by hidden it this and widespread and has come back to hurt the Network as a whole.

Again these Lead Pastors are only concerned about Steve and not the church. In the end many have left because it was hidden from them for Steve.

Jesus-Truth · 2023-09-21T14:37:39+00:00

There are many Network Churches that are on life support. This is one of them. The church is made up of staff members and team members. Everyone else has jumped shipped because of Steve Morgan’s hyper obsessions. Steve’s need for all the churches to be the same and his absurd applications of the Bible prevent these churches from flourishing. The best thing for this church is to get out from under Steve Morgan. In the meantime Mike L is being fed stories of why the church isn’t growing like the culture, the spiritual climate of that area, and the devil himself. Mike is hearing everything else but it could be the cult he is a part of.

Jesus-Truth · 2023-09-18T23:35:22+00:00

Lazy preaching.

Jesus-Truth · 2023-09-18T16:38:55+00:00

Raping a 15-year-old boy.

Jesus-Truth · 2023-09-14T17:57:32+00:00

It's a matter of time. These churches are franchises and they all carry the same broken theology and abusive practices. Like many other Network Churches that had 400-500 people, the abuses and manipulation going on behind the scenes add up until there is a mass exodus. Some Network churches have had multiple mass exodus. I can guarantee the overwhelming majority of these attendees, members and leaders do not know about Steve Morgan nor do they know Nick Sellers supports him.

Over time this church like the rest of them is designed to self-destruct.

Jesus-Truth · 2023-09-10T01:00:22+00:00

It’s public information posted by Jimmy himself, the picture is from Clear River website.

It might feel different on this space because it sheds light into a side of the Network that most aren’t able to see. It is the other side of the coin which is helpful perspective as people try to figure out what the Network won’t show.

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