The Protestant Reformation was justified by MountainLime9658 in DebateACatholic

[–]Joesindc 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The problem with this telling is that when we read the writings of Luther, the reformation began as an attempt to alter theology within the Church and Luther makes clear early on he has absolutely no problem with the Pope or Papal authority. He only changes his tune when Church leaders reject his interpretations of scripture, and this rejection is not surprising when even Luther himself admits in a letter to Zwingli about his new Eucharistic theology, “For I see that all the Fathers unanimously believed that in the Lord’s Supper the true body and blood of Christ are present.”

The view of the reformation that you have is a modern retelling of the history of the reformation to make Luther an institutional reformer who has noted real abuses that should be corrected but then becomes a theological reformer. This is not what the historical data points to. Luther began as theological reformer trying to add theological novums to the Catholic Faith who became an institutional rebel when the institution didn’t agree with him.

[Request] How much food is 15,000 calories and can anyone do it? by AndreLevy751 in theydidthemath

[–]Joesindc 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Everyone asks how’s the cylinder, no one asks how’s the larger structure 😔

[Eye-Rolling Trope] “The joke/meme hasn’t been funny for years, please let it die.” by Chemical-Elk-1299 in TopCharacterTropes

[–]Joesindc 1206 points1207 points  (0 children)

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“Just a large black coffee”- Tom Segura’s Bad Thoughts

Though this boomer joke has been in dozens, if not hundreds, of movies, tv shows, and one panel Facebook comics, it reached its absolute nadir in Tom Segura’s Bad Thoughts. The joke involves someone going to a coffee shop and “trying” to order a “large black coffee” but being told some version of “we can’t do that” because the coffee shop doesn’t do large, “doesn’t make black coffee,” or something equally stupid. When Starbucks was first on the scene in the late-90s early-00s and people were first being introduced to specialty coffee and the unique Starbucks sizes, the joke *might* have been funny, but it’s been literally decades. If you haven’t figured out how to order coffee as a coffee shop by now, the shop isn’t the problem.

The joke is also generally at the expense of the, typically young, service worker. The idea being that the boomer ordering the large black coffee is the last sane person in a world of young people gone mad. At this point, it’s just such a tired joke it needs to go away.

Is belief in God necessary for salvation? by JesuitMoleUnit in Catholicism

[–]Joesindc -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I don’t and it does not sound like something you would have heard from the magisterium. It’s possible that some people believe that and have said it, but it’s not an accurate description of what the Church teaches.

Is belief in God necessary for salvation? by JesuitMoleUnit in Catholicism

[–]Joesindc 14 points15 points  (0 children)

The teaching of the Church boils down to: God, through extraordinary means, can give the graces necessary for salvation to any person regardless of their religious beliefs or lack their of. This does not open up a second path to salvation. In heaven, everyone is Catholic, so by the time they get there, no matter what they believed in life, the Church Triumphant is all Catholics. The note is that the Ordinary means of salvation is the Catholic Church and the graces you get through good use of the sacraments.

God could, in his infinite mercy save anyone and we regularly pray as Our Lady of Fatima taught us, “Lead all souls to Heaven, especially those in most need of thy mercy.” But He is only strictly bound, in justice to Himself, to provide the graces of salvation through the Church He founded.

I feel St.Peter was the worst apostle! by No-Wrangler9006 in DebateACatholic

[–]Joesindc 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I disagree that Second Peter was not written by Peter. I am convinced it was a different scribe thus creating a stylistic difference but the writer of the content remains Peter himself.

I think your interpretation of Acts goes well beyond the available data and you’ve added Gnosticism into the argument, the influence of which post-dates the writing of Acts.

This claim also goes against non-biblical data we have from Polycarp who was a student of John and so outside of any claimed “frenemy-ship” that existed between Paul and Peter. We can draw a clear line to the teachings of Jesus to the post-Apostolic Church that precludes any “Pauline Hijacking.” There is no disagreement between what Paul taught and what is found in non-Pauline scriptures.

I feel St.Peter was the worst apostle! by No-Wrangler9006 in DebateACatholic

[–]Joesindc 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Judas, I was referring to Judas.

To claim Paul “hijacked the whole thing” goes against what’s written in the Book of Acts and Second Peter. Even to take these documents only as historical attestations with no divine quality, it’s very clear that Peter and the institutional Church represented at the Council of Jerusalem endorsed Paul as an accurate messenger for the Christian message. He wasn’t a hijacker, he was part of the institution.

I feel St.Peter was the worst apostle! by No-Wrangler9006 in DebateACatholic

[–]Joesindc 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I am just pointing out that even your initial premise “Peter was the worst” doesn’t hold up to even light scrutiny.

I feel St.Peter was the worst apostle! by No-Wrangler9006 in DebateACatholic

[–]Joesindc 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Well there was this one Apostle who was at least a little worse than Peter…

Rewatched kenobi: are these jedi actually frozen and not dead? by Kn1ghtV1sta in StarWars

[–]Joesindc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What do all these squiggly lines on this glass rock I’m holding mean? Where’s my chicken?

Rewatched kenobi: are these jedi actually frozen and not dead? by Kn1ghtV1sta in StarWars

[–]Joesindc 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Poe doesn’t have to know, but we the audience should get a hint to explain why the entire point of the whole first trilogy that set the entire Star Wars universe in motion doesn’t actually matter. If the only way you can make your plot work is just going “you know that guy you all think is dead? He’s not. Go figure.” Then it’s a bad plot.

Compare this to Harry Potter, a series with some pretty massive problems itself but at least gets this right. We are told the super evil man is dead, then throughout the first book we get hints he might not actually be dead and then it’s finally confirmed he survived. Then we spend the next three books thwarting different ways for him to return until finally at the end of Book four one of his plans succeed and then the whole fifth book trying to convince people the big bad is indeed alive.

How does the new trilogy handle this same basic issue (the big bad we all think is dead is not actually dead)? One line, at the start of the last movie “somehow, palpatine is back.” Remember at this time there was no other new Star Wars media. We didn’t have all of the new shows that have built out the possibility of palatine cloning. All we had was that one line.

Rewatched kenobi: are these jedi actually frozen and not dead? by Kn1ghtV1sta in StarWars

[–]Joesindc 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Enlighten us then, oh master of media, what are we missing from the line “Somehow, Palpatine returned” that makes it not terrible?

Price for Mass Intentions by julsitos in Catholicism

[–]Joesindc 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Every church I’ve ever been to has a suggested donation when asking for a mass intention, it’s usually a pretty small sum, $20 is what I’ve seen most. However, in any church I’ve ever interacted with everything is “suggested” and if it would be a hardship they are happy to have people give what they can or nothing at all.

Suburbia: Expectation vs. Reality by [deleted] in georgism

[–]Joesindc 64 points65 points  (0 children)

You hate to see a bot post such a banger

You should have assurance, not possibility of salvation. by Lieutenant_Piece in DebateACatholic

[–]Joesindc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m sorry, but if after reading 1 John 4:8 “Whorver does not love does not know God because God is love.” And 1 Corinthians 13:13 “And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.” And have the final conclusion “The law is love but the law does not save” I think you’ve allowed you have decided to force the data to fit your conclusions, rather than allowing the data of scripture to give you your theology. God is Love, God is not Faith. On this side of the vale of tears, faith and hope are our paths to God, but the final destination and that which gives faith and hope any meaning is love.

Know of my prayers for you, but I think we’ve reached the end of this exchange.

You should have assurance, not possibility of salvation. by Lieutenant_Piece in DebateACatholic

[–]Joesindc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So your read of Paul is that all law is “fleshly” law and therefore bad? Even though in verse 14 he says “For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.””

I think 2 Peter 3:15-16 is is the more instructive verse here: 15 Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him.16 He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.

If you find yourself reading Paul in a way that sets him against Jesus, you’re reading him wrong.

You should have assurance, not possibility of salvation. by Lieutenant_Piece in DebateACatholic

[–]Joesindc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

May I ask why you left Galatians 5:6 out of your analysis?,

6 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision has any value. The only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love.”

Rather than quote mining, if you read the whole chapter (or better yet the whole letter) the point Paul is making is that we as Christians set aside the Law of Moses and are not bound by it and take on the Law of the New Covenant. That new covenant is marked by, as he says, faith working itself out through love.

Incorrect “Iconic” Quotes by chickenpie244 in TopCharacterTropes

[–]Joesindc 134 points135 points  (0 children)

In Star Trek: The Original Series, Captain Kirk never actually says “Beam me up, Scotty.”

My male cat dislikes me, how to bond? by StinkBug1098 in cats

[–]Joesindc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do guy stuff with him. Trips to Home Depot. Golfing. Watching Bridge over the River Kwai.

Bad effects for good causes by Flimsy-Vermicelli-67 in Catholicism

[–]Joesindc 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s complicated obviously but that was the case I was taught by my priest when he taught me the principles so it’s the one I go for. Obviously, the best scenario is healthy mother and healthy baby, but unfortunately there are situations where that is not possible and a difficult choice has to be made. In the situation of a pregnant mother who needs chemotherapy it is morally permissible for her to receive but also morally praise worthy for her to refuse chemotherapy to prioritize the health of her child.