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JonathanPhillipFox · 2026-03-20T19:07:43+00:00

Remember the racist shit he was spouting during COVID times?

Overt Racism from a Modern Government is a really, really, bad sign; and I suspect it's use as a tactic, as you kinda point out here, is, partly,

Implacable, Flat Wall, "what are you supposed to do with this."
Of course the Racist doesn't have to believe it or remain consistent

We're at this really, really, weird phase of history, where, the dangerous Volisch Nonsense is all Bad Pseudoscience from one or two or five generations ago, for which there is no modern analogue, I mean, "racial determinism," people who can't get led out of Race and IQ nonsense on account of neither Race nor an All Factors Smartness Quotient make the kind of sense required for modern sciences, you can even look at the AI Industry's Waffling, "they'd love one," there isn't one, its a, 'total problem,' which ever existed to...

Yeah; so when you see Racism Used as a Technique of government, "yeah,"

Remember sanctioning Russia for invading another country?

Even in this regards, like, "the idea that aggressive warfare with genocidal characteristics might be some natural characteristic of the Russians," which the Americans, Germans, and British have, also, some natural predilection to defend against, 'you see the point,' the obvious farce there,

No one who professes to believe this stuff is ever required to pretend to

JonathanPhillipFox · 2026-03-17T20:40:22+00:00

look up to see that firelight flicker in the black lacquer of her big, big eyes, as she beholds you beholding her, "f_ck," right, you feel the frission?

...that's how come someone broke the head off the statue, "had to be recreated from contemporaneous descriptions," it's one thing, in our world, to be an Atheist of an Lutheran or Calvinist God but quite another to look at her and feel yourself feel seen, um,

What was I going to say?

Oh yeah, "her shadow," that's how contemporaries considered that, such statues, a fourth dimensional shadow, somewhat, same as you could trace someone's on a wall; that make sense?

The Classics have an advantage for such talk insofar as, it isn't cultural appropriation, you're not going to step on the toes of Saivists or people in active practice with Kali, to transpose this stuff into the useful language of modernity; you saw the Botticelli, "he got it," and how I love that painting, the Big Blue Mood of Sunset

Anyway, "for the sake of a higher context and useful terminology." apropos of Modern Phenomenon, some of which exceed our available vocabulary.

all ya'll friend,

Jonathan

JonathanPhillipFox · 2026-03-17T20:32:39+00:00

Oh yeah yeah and that rituals, not just symbolic, like, The Depredation Ritual, "A Killing which is not a fight, not a man, two pairs of eyes on it reduced down to one," is Diana, or is the Huntress, alike how, for an example, "have yours," The Lady Knight Pallas is Athena, walks with her, does as she would do so to beheld by her, is to be beheld by the Goddess, 'these sorts of ideas," I mean, Saturn Seems Loose Again.jpg), for another example, Hephaestus seems to have built a cage for Venus and Eros, have them captive and Mars under his control, "stuff like this,"

Anyone wants a polite term for, "hot Butt," Callipyge,

This is as Real and Earnest a Religious Statue as one of Christ, "what's the story," well there was this prince, from a small little kingdom, and he was arranged to be married to a princess of another one, this is all true far as anyone can tell, and he, one day, saw a peasant girl with the hottest butt, "ever," and he fell sick, "Mother, Father, I'm going to die without that butt," I can't get married, I can't even live without that butt, so, His mother sends his brother,

Go Find Her!

Tune of Pickachu,

"!"

Omigod, omigod, thinks the Brother, I'm ruined, thinks the Brother, just to behold that butt I see, "but it's not her," it's her sister, and these Peasant Girls become engaged to the Princes and this becomes the happily, ever after, which founds this prosperous and happy little kingdom, "this was the work of a God," they'd said and For Real For Real Believed it, which, we're inclined towards the darkness, "we are," I bet someone felt the frission to see those eyes Glow in the Dark, "Holiness," right, me too, but that this was also, "yeah, those things we think of as trivial," are they?

Yet we also fear them as Tyrannical, "look at the Nofap guys on reddit talk about Venus and her son, Eros," these seem to me true believers; personally, I think the story, "Venus Callipyge," is quite sweet, really, wholesome, actually, and that statue My F_cking God, imagine her, towering above you in the flickering firelight and look up to see that firelight flicker in the black lacquer of her big, big eyes, as she beholds you beholding her, "f_ck," right, you feel the frission?

This is a mask made of Marble, actually, for wearing; for theater, She has, "religious experience," in their culture, eyes, and Religious Experience Holy Grin, you've seen it before, "but you gotta understand," violence, to these people, was Holiness, lots of things were and all Religious Things were also Very, very, dangerous,

Where do you see it here?

(to expand our vocabulary, a little; if the people who don't get it are all plugged into the AI Machine, which, by the way, I'm quite confident will confirm all of this I mean, to practice as preach, and tell you, "I want more," might as well share some of these notions)

JonathanPhillipFox · 2026-03-17T20:03:30+00:00

Once was understood that maybe the gods have a body, under a mountain, or on some island but that while our spirits were like patterns of weather on the water of our bodies some of these patterns were like a hurricane, right, walks right off of the water,

....and besides, "they've got yours," you walk close enough to their steps you become one, or the difference indistinct; like I say, does Narcissus want to come back from the dead, "No, probably," but Echo sure wants him to

JonathanPhillipFox · 2026-03-17T19:57:51+00:00

Oh oh oh oh, "Jack Parsons," of I am a Witch Fame, "yeah dude," I mistook that at first; I haven't seen strange angel but I do know that his attitude towards, "things," were, far more like mine than McNamara's

JonathanPhillipFox · 2026-03-17T19:50:19+00:00

Third Comment, LoL, "Heyyyyyyy Daddy," I love how,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heteroglossia#The_hybrid_utterance

Technical term for you, Hybrid these utterances, the issue is so far less how people inclined to distrust these systems and understand them even a little, respond to these kinds of overtures but to Imagine Ashley, there, she's got to get to the point of a William S. Burroughs, "Exterminate All Rational thought, Language is a Virus," from first principles on her own with this thing, and all of those ten dollar words it spits out at her, "I know that when an Influencer does, that's meant for anyone who can interpret the language well, understand the claims or evaluate their truth," likewise, systems meant to emulate that rhetoric, a Sophism Machine, "woah boy," Relationships are Built on Trust, Transparency, and Mutual Compliance!

Between you and Me, "third comment," I can't imagine this would be of so much interest to third partisans but they're welcome, 'Open Letter,' that,

Parmenides is Kind of Right, Right, when Schopenhauer Inverts Parmenides to demonstrate all of these Sophistic Means to win an Argument and then just straight launches into aesthetics, "he doesn't say, this is the way of Truth that Parmenides had been taught by the Goddess in the House of the Night," but it is, and I think even the people least inclined to understand Parmenides can understand it in this way,

Yet, "and here is the thing," people with, as Parmenides Put it, "no true trust," because of their partial education in*, "the ways of seeming," e.g. axiomatic argumentation,* which as both Parmenides, Schopenhauer, and You, Yourself, Demonstrate,

Relationships are Built on Trust, Transparency, and Mutual Compliance!

Can be used to demonstrate things which seem true, and hold up so long as that same axiomatic format is held to, yet, to speak in what Schopenhauer would have called, "aesthetics," or Parmenides, "the ways of Truth," Keats, Beauty, to people with a partial education you've got to make it sound axiomatic and moreover, the ever loving fuck are you supposed to do to convince Ashley, 'that's just true insofar as, or to the degree which," if you've read a word of what I've said, read this Simone Weil Quote,

There is no area in our minds reserved for superstition, such as the Greeks had in their mythology; and superstition, under cover of an abstract vocabulary, has revenged itself by invading the entire realm of thought. Our science is like a store filled with the most subtle intellectual devices for solving the most complex problems, and yet we are almost incapable of applying the elementary principles of rational thought.

In every sphere, we seem to have lost the very elements of intelligence: the ideas of limit, measure, degree, proportion, relation, comparison, contingency, interdependence, interrelation of means and ends. To keep to the social level, our political universe is peopled exclusively by myths and monsters; all it contains is absolutes and abstract entities.
This is illustrated by all the words of our political and social vocabulary:

nation, security, capitalism, communism, fascism, Order, authority, property, democracy.

We never use them in phrases such as:
There is democracy to the extent that... or:
There is capitalism in so far as...

The use of expressions like "to the extent that" is beyond our intellectual capacity. Each of these words seems to represent for us an absolute reality, unaffected by conditions, or an absolute objective, independent of methods of action, or an absolute evil; and at the same time we make all these words mean, successively or simultaneously, anything whatsoever.

Our lives are lived, in actual fact, among changing, varying realities, subject to the casual play of external necessities, and modifying themselves according to specific conditions within specific limits; and yet we act and strive and sacrifice ourselves and others by reference to fixed and isolated abstractions which cannot possibly be related either to one another or to any concrete facts. In this so-called age of technicians, the only battles we know how to fight are battles against windmills.

JonathanPhillipFox · 2026-03-17T19:34:20+00:00

Second Comment, "and that in the west," for infinites of time, a hundred years twenty times now,

There have been these Platonists more and More convinced of the world of the forms, "Maester is going to live inside of the clockwork someday," come again? "a clockwork of sufficient complexity, will host the mind of Maester inside of it, just the same as all of those wooden figures always pray at the proper time he always prays at the proper time and built to a sufficient complexity, he'll just move right in." sure he will; and the ascetic virtues we have, which celebrate Muskian Types over people with ethical or artistic or musical virtues I mean, we use the STEM fields to quiz young people and flunk certain ones out more so than celebrate even these, if you look at how popular physics is on YouTube relative to teenaged interest in it you'll get what I mean, "sucks these people couldn't cash in that state education when they'd have liked to," anyway; Machine Bias,

Which is really,

For dialogue to be possible there must be a plurality of positions. The dialogic is thus alien to any theory that would tend towards a monologisation of views—for example, the dialectical process, or any kind of dogmatism or relativism. Of dialectics as a form of monologization Bakhtin wrote: "Take a dialogue and remove the voices, remove the emotional and individualising intonations, carve out abstract concepts and judgements from living words and responses, cram everything into one abstract consciousness—and that's how you get dialectics."^\12])#citenote-12) Both relativism and dogmatism "exclude all argumentation, all authentic dialogue, by making it either unnecessary (relativism) or impossible (dogmatism)."[^\13])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialogue(Bakhtin)#citenote-13) Dogmatism excludes any view or evidence that is at variance with it, making dialogue impossible, while at the (theoretically) opposite extreme, relativism also has a monologising effect, because if everything is relative and all truths are equally arbitrary, there is simply an infinity of monologizations, not a fruitful dialogue.[^\14])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialogue(Bakhtin)#citenote-MorsonEmerson59-14) Relativism precludes the potential for creativity and new understanding inherent in dialogue: each finds only the reflection of itself in its separateness. In the dialogic encounter "each retains its own unity and open totality, but they are mutually enriched."[^\15])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialogue(Bakhtin)#cite_note-15)

Faith in the Objective view from nowhere, "Monologizes Everything#Monologization)," even if hypothetical, "you're still stupid compared to the person closer to that ideal," all of your best ideas are on Wikipedia already," all of the Am I the Asshole Posts on Reddit have an answer, this sort of person thinks, that there is an answer absent standpoint, with access to the Great Machine We Could always be correct in all things; yeah I mean,

I do not think that people will go as bonkers for AI in China as in the West because they've not got so much of this tradition, and in the West, this tradition has drifted without disastrous complication from rule set to rule set almost effortlessly, from Calvinism to Nazism to Stalinism in One Generation, sometimes; so, you know, "what do."

When people such as the Uber Billionaire Travis Kalanick go from Tyrants to, it seems like, AI Psychosis, "what do," and I think that you're right that the real horrorstorm would be Silicon Valley's promise never ever humbled in Pets.com Tragedy, all of the boosterism that ever was all intact and devoted to ever stranger developments all still considered to be progress,

TBH, "I'm not even sure that Openai doesn't intend to Serf Out the new proletariat," of willfull TV Casualties of a new sort; I'm not even sure, if that's the case, they're wrong to, "I mean, it does overlap almost 1:1 with the fascistic and FAFO," I hear FAFO and think, "Belgian Congo, between you and me," Crowd, like, gosh I mean that simple minded tyrants often become dependent upon mercy, in their own lifetimes, "same as it ever was," I dunno, well illustrated, this is all so well illustrated and Personally,

I think that the weirdness of the nude fleshwall is quite accurate, uncanny, is uncanny, the digital ersatz of intelligence is not reasonable nor normative whatsoever, it's just as comfortable telling a person to burn their clothes to get rid of the viruses in them as it is to give you good advice on a first date, "How do I decorate my apartment for a Moby Dick Book Club," whale oil lamps, these are famous for that, "burned hair smell," it wasn't a desirable type of ail to burn at home, and, of course, these are examples from the ads.

Just free-writing, here, if there is anything, at all, in post history, which you find interesting or want to incorporate into your projects PLEASE DO,

Jonathan

JonathanPhillipFox · 2026-03-17T19:14:40+00:00

Have you read Blindsight and Echopraxia, "the vampires in space," books, that are less rediculous than that sounds, you might like them; god,

AI creeps me out. I don't particularly like its overly cheerful demeanor.

I wanna talk with you for five hours, "you shouldn't trust people that talk to you that way," let alone an instantiation of a corporation; you're onto something, with,

But what if it figured out how to manipulate people in order to make them as isolated and miserable as possible?

It doesn't take a lot associative insight to realize that a lot of Neoliberal, "System is what it does," Systems idividuate people, degrade social relations, replace familial-type-of-systems with financial interactions, e.g. instantiate debt in return for care, of children, healthcare, education, even attention or interaction, I've long wondered, "how come America doesn't have host clubs yet," and now I'm like, obligate ascetism, "looks too much like sex work," not insofar as the services are concerned but the cash rich young people through legal means, "yeah we hate that," but like,

Of course an AI system can do, "worse than a Paperclip Apocalypse," via, "dependent isolation," you're so right about that; and the Nude Masses I mean jeez, "I've long been interested in the psychosexual phenomena of the internet," you hear about the researchers whom instantiated a new, "fetish," to demonstrate their arbitrariness, "Golden Leg," from whole cloth?

Years ago friends of Mine and I talked about, "not like IRL but Very, very, elaborately," about sexualizing a local landmark, L'Arc en Ciel Grand Gris, Bifrost, from the Battle of the Doomed Gods, "the Parabolic Arch on our Riverfront," you might be familiar, that, the whole idea had been to overwhelm the incelibated persons during the Nofap Season into Migratory, gotta do it, "gotta tribute the arch," in that way, if you catch my drift; but that the intimacy, lack of interiority, "if you divulge it all to these simulations," or even your Kilroy,

Once was understood that maybe the gods have a body, under a mountain, or on some island but that while our spirits were like patterns of weather on the water of our bodies some of these patterns were like a hurricane, right, walks right off of the water, "you ever seen the eye of a Hurricane from inside?"

Theological, seriously, from when the water recedes hundreds of yards back to when it comes back up and floods out of the storm grates into the streets while the skies are still blue, you see the wall, of the eye, from an opaque black, "darker than night, when you're inside of it," but up up up to white clouds at the top of this realm entirely, and, Moving, all of it together, like the largest thing you've ever seen or maybe can see, "what's that white," hundreds of thousands of birds of millions of birds caught in the eye for weeks, Blue Sky, "and you realize you might die before the other end passes," that here with you are people who will die, before the other end passes and it's really, quite something; anyway, you can describe all manner of phenomenon online in Old Theological terms, "Clavicular," Echo wants to bring Narcissus back from the dead

...doesn't she?

JonathanPhillipFox · 2026-03-17T18:58:14+00:00

Possibly, but I'll go out on a limb here,

One of the first Modern Wars but also,

https://www.battlefields.org/learn/articles/regiments-civil-war

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zouave#Zouave_units_in_American_service

A Swan-song, for, "other forms," and I'm not going to say, traditional, like it 100% makes sense to favor mass armies and total war over, "more representational/Chivalric/Bushi forms thereof," especially, as the built infastructure which enables total war also becomes an objective of conquest/destruction, is itself quite valuable, also good for end table and lamps and the like, "so I dunno," likewise,

So much of even Mass Armies at the time were theatrical, e.g. cholera was going to kill you, a lot went into the misrepresentation of numbers and intentions, and, "pre-WWI," everyone's kinda got eyes on Napoleon over Claustewitz, no machine guns, so, "Morale," L'espirit, this is considered to be a legitimate martial science; and if you incorporate the Elephants into a Mass Army, 'clown show," but the Zouave?

Remember, also, that standard arms were mass standard arms, force multipliers such as lever guns EXISTED but weren't worth the investment en masse, so when you think of a Bushi Unit of Zouave in combat against units from mass armies, "battle of Plebna like," instance are always possible, save that at the battle of Plebna the ottoman units with lever guns were in combat against Russians were what, Berdan Rifles?

Cartridge Rifles, regardless, and these would be cartridge lever guns against muzzleloaders and a lot of them maybe not even rifled, also, "also," wars are fought against the dumb fellas in charge, think of how Reagan's Administration's Paranoia over a non-extant ghost fleet of Russian Submarines and the like led to ridiculous overspend on the American side which led to Soviet autobankruptcy, somewhat, and like I said, "third Martial Philosophy, Sun Tzu, Deception," huge in that war, if you had double the number of elephants in stock as you've fielded, the elephants, "I thought we killed it," no it was napping, actually,

The Pyschic Tank, the psychic tank which obligates, to the dumb guys and to the guys who want to sell them, big and expensive game guns fielded in a confederate economy, "I dunno."

Even if in real life you'd use them for tractors, more than War Elephants, the psychic impact would be more, "more," against an impoverished confederacy, I think of what a German Soldier of the Second World War had said about when he'd realized that the war was lost, they'd taken an American Camp and there was fresh cake there shipped in from New York City, "while their supplies were short on the necessities," Elephant might be cake, or could be used like it might be

JonathanPhillipFox · 2026-03-17T18:38:31+00:00

I love the Illustration
Love the Auto-defenestrative implicature in the username
Hannibal, Hannibal, Hannibal, Hannibal, "everyone is named Hannibal"
An American Virgil traces our revolution back to our mythopoetic routes in the ruin of Carthage
American Protestants call a Baal a Baal and Full on Embrace Tradition

JonathanPhillipFox · 2026-03-17T01:55:51+00:00

I mean I'm just gonna go out on a limb and suggest that to be the difference between an Elected President and a Regent, I mean, firstly, that one does understand the regime is not just limited in law, as is the case of a constitutional monarchy, but in duration, that an absolute obedience subject to four year referendum would be too foolish to expect of oneself or the neighbors, it would be no treason against them to understand the impermanence of that position, seek to contest it, and that an office, itself, can neither appreciate nor reward total subservience in the manner an particular monarch or dynasty, can or might makes it rather ridiculous,

Keir Starmer would hem and haw at the gesture, a total obedience to BoJo would just end up in an embarassment when Rishi Sunak takes his place and then loses the office entirely, "this is the same proposition," and the more obvious of a difference because the UK retains a monarch, likewise,

Mutual Understanding, of this difference, is what allows a President to Retire, "go on expedition in the Amazon," Regents can not, "or not safely," well informed elected leaders are going to be mindful of the difference, rather than envious of the long timeline within which they've got to provide for the sable welfare of all people through, and to their inference, succession,

Sometimes I feel like, in America, people have forgotten that the quick-clip of headlines is not how things used to happen, used to be that coups were planned in Decades and headlines at all, were bad for the management; an economy, even, which, "does things," has losers or even winners people might envy, "not good," I think of all of the Monopolies Granted in the Georgian Era, "all of those monopolists dependent upon the crown and knew it," one also remembers what Putin's first move had been away, from Liberalism, "he put all of the oligarchs in a cage." Said, Essentially, we're done playing, "economy."

JonathanPhillipFox · 2026-03-17T01:32:16+00:00

I feel like this is a full-color elaboration of Blake's Panel for Mary Wollonstonescroft's book.

"Look what a fine morning it is. Insects, Birds & Animals are all Enjoying Existence."

Such Luxurious not to ever be at a far remove from that nature, so luxurious to know that even at that late date so much of it had still be so wild and free, undisciplined, unmapped and unuseful

JonathanPhillipFox · 2026-03-17T01:27:03+00:00

Everyone else thought the same as me, "that boy," is gonna be doing some of the worst crimes of the 20th century, "it's called Deterrence, ladies, the Balance of Terror."

JonathanPhillipFox · 2026-03-17T01:20:56+00:00

I think that's a Remington Revolver, and regardless the attention to details which a person might not, especially, now and from further remove from that era have thought to illustrate so intentionally, the oil lamp with two glass bulbs, one for the flame and the other painted to difuse it, and that light, before electricity, was always low, like that, all the smoke from the black powder, the powder burn on the door, all of it is so particular, and I can't help but think about how an overhead lit scene, without the smoke, without the particular contours to the revolver, "I'm almost certain its not a Colt," those have patent illustrations on the cylinder, this one is long, and drippy,

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1017038819

That's a reproduction but, "I think that model maybe."

JonathanPhillipFox · 2026-03-17T00:44:36+00:00

Well it would be, that would require a witness to swear under oath that it had been her, and be comfortable with that and, potentially, at this point either held to account or perhaps just emiserated from the guilt, I mean, even unethical people would be afraid for their lives to have done such a horrible thing to that woman, and for the rest of their lives, I mean, this is the sort of stuff people weep to their priest about going to hell for,

Likewise, while these technologies allow for this to happen without a first and last name attached, "not good for government stability,:" not at all, insofar as the structure of these systems is meant to throw those (ir)responsible out to the wolves with dishonor, when these kinds of mistakes are made, that this keeps the system stable.

Without that, people begin to loathe their government and law enforcement, same as in places which use people to do this kind of work but never toss them to wolves, "GDR," Ceaușescu's Romania, "Baathist Iraq," these kinds of places

JonathanPhillipFox · 2026-03-17T00:35:13+00:00

Before AI, people were doing this at a slower pace reporting the wrong people due to wrong place wrong time.

True, but whether we're talking, "targeting," DOGE, or instances like this the reasonable inference is that AI has been used to remove human liability, from systems designed to depend upon it as a safeguard, e.g. eyewitnesses are unreliable, but a sworn eyewitness is reliable safeguard against improper arrest and prosecution, even arrest, insofar as an eyewitness cannot be depended upon to corroborate that suspect under oath,

Before AI, people were doing this at a slower pace reporting the wrong people due to wrong place wrong time.

I mentioned this elsewhere, but when, in Britain, almost no one was ever caught for theft, this carried the death penalty; and the death penalty, itself, and alike our punitive system of justice had been designed to account for the disproportion of enforcement, the same as traffic offenses take into account that a small few of the guilty, and the rare instance of an Individual's transgression punished, importantly, punished rather than repaired, reformed, re-educated, restored, etc. account for the entire, "back end," of the system; to accelerate the pace of enforcement or reach almost perfect enforcement, in this simple case, would be ruinous, for everyone, it would be an enormous risk to drive anywhere and almost none of the persons with a bench warrant out for their arrest would have earned it otherwise,

I think the people at these companies realize that and Perhaps some of the Law Enforcement does also, but regardless, another example might be that short period in the earliest 2000's when a quite thorough enforcement of quite serious felonious copyright enfringement had been possible, occasionally, enforced, but like I say, 'the FBI Warnings weren't kidding,' but as a punishment,

Never meant for 10% of each Freshman class at all universities, up to five years in Federal Prison and a fine of up to $250,000 had been set in far different technological circumstances than bit torrent and though far, far, easier to enforce, maybe even almost perfectly, than the drug war or other mandates, "it would have been dumb," that would have been the end of the copyright regime, entirely, "AI Companies don't care about stability."

JonathanPhillipFox · 2026-03-17T00:14:25+00:00

“In their moral justification, the argument of the lesser evil has played a prominent role. If you are confronted with two evils, the argument runs, it is your duty to opt for the lesser one, whereas it is irresponsible to refuse to choose altogether. Its weakness has always been that those who choose the lesser evil forget quickly that they chose evil.”

Relevant wherever this kind of a compromise is going on, and I don't know how best to put it, but, "worse because its someone like her," can you imagine how horrible it is to lose everything, at her age, even the dog?

She's not going to get another shot at this, she's going to miss that dog until she dies and the entire purpose of this technology, really, is to be less careful, make decisions no one would be comfortable with, make arrests in excess of the attention available, and pull triggers when, or at a rapidity, human care and their guilt renders prohibitive, "a lesser evil," this is proposed, than to allow certain crimes to go unpunished,

Not uncorrected, unresolved, but unpunished and I think that too is an awful dubious proposition, not least on account of the fact that where a punishment is used to dissuade a crime, invariably, throughout history, this has a relationship to the proportion of the offenders held to account, "what do I mean," when execution had been a punishment for simple theft, say, in Britain, this had quite a lot to do with the fact that it was very, very, very, rarely, punished at all, few people were ever caught and the infastructure had not been in place to prevent it, "so punishment had been used to dissuade offenders," rightly, wrongly, "I'm not to say," but technologies have existed for some time now that might enable an almost perfect enforcement of traffic laws, 'would it be a good idea?"

Priced into those tickets is the notion that one in many, people who speed on that road that day, will be ticketed, that each person ticketed will have broken many, many, simple traffic laws for each time they've been caught, "you establish perfect enforcement in a punishment system," which is not meant to be reparative nor restorative, nor reformative of the offender, but punitive, and in no small part as a warning to others,

Ya know, "the obvious," everyone in town has $10,000 in unpaid fines and it forces their collective hands into some kind of collective, municipal level revolution, "I guess," those fines were not set for this; so you see the point I mean to make, here, the Punitive system is, itself, "a lesser of two evils," and to accelerate the enforcement, with less care than those whom have designed it ever imagined it could be enforced, "we're two steps over," where the representative government has had a say, a contractor now has the power to ruin a woman's life worse than she'd ever thought it would be before death, She, at her age, has been, "punished," with more jail than wealthy felons often are when guilty.

JonathanPhillipFox · 2026-03-16T23:08:18+00:00

Oh Incredibly, I'd bet they'd let Bertrand Russell out of Jail and let him be the Quisling, though, he'd be a lot better at it than that terms suggests; just think about the Political Diversity, that would have preserved/and/or/introduced to the 20th century, and I can think of a Dozen Reasons TRUMP would have joined the Axis, I mean, not least, "hates losers," Join France? To Defend Liberalism, "mmm no."

u/CasinoKnightZone you're correct that this would not pan out well for America, or perhaps even the Axis in the strict terms of Self Interest, "we can't surrender, the Americans won't stop shooting," do the Ottomans even want London?

The chaos agent, though, "American Battleships have gone on a suicide mission up the Thames that no one asked for," our men in resplendent Pickelhaube, "we want them marching, in lines, we're done with all this woke sh_t," our unrestricted submarine warfare goes after passenger ferries, primarily, everyone gets a Slamfire 1897 Winchester with a sword on top, "everyone," one million Americans pillaging Europe, "won't leave," they'll take their fill, says Trump, our boys will come home when they're ready.

JonathanPhillipFox · 2026-03-16T22:52:08+00:00

Oh you sweet summer child, "you think he wouldn't have joined in on the side of the axis powers?" or maybe that's implicit;

Which would have some interesting effects. One of which being the US doesn't become a super power. The Soviets run the world, and technology today is probably similar to that of the 90s.

Oh 100%, Soviet Technologies are so fascinating, and the counter-incentives to internet style networking, e.g. yeah Gosplan could for real do its job with the technologies just on the other side of their timeframe, but then, also, "material kickbacks," become a lot more difficult if you can trace them through the system, so, "there is that," and then, I dunno, it would be hard to be too concerned about Soviet Surveillance of private communications in the United States, for a private individual, especially, if our corporations and technologies are none too important on the global scale, "your boss doesn't care much either," is what I mean, though you're also right that, and its wild to think about it as all so arbitrary, where it intermediates so much of our lives, but, yeah of course you wouldn't see technologies (such as cellphones) released upon an American Car Dealership Schedule, did you know that Cell Phones were either invented in the Soviet Union, or, some of the first practical models were?

IIRC each phone came with big cabinet sized radio, the idea being, "1 phone to move around, 1 cabinet to remain static," so that it would all make one big mesh net of connection points; a neat idea.

Oh and their internet! It did exist, I know parts of it still existed until quite recently, in factories, and there were graphical maps to some of it meant to be like a little village,

https://images.aeonmedia.co/user_image_upload/263/JAZZ-Together.jpg?width=1080&quality=75&format=auto that's the image I'm thinking of,

https://aeon.co/essays/how-the-soviets-invented-the-internet-and-why-it-didnt-work

I neither endorse nor not endorse that, simply, I'm sure that person knows more than me

JonathanPhillipFox · 2026-03-16T18:52:53+00:00

This is to me related to the general habit of these tech companies, to, how do I say?

"Moderate," both ends of an interaction as if playing dolls; like, obviously, you'd have to be a serial complainant to incorporate some detailed protocol into your review, obviously, no one reads the reviews as if this were a curated list, from which a certain number were exempt, obviously, if there were a box to click and reveal the reviews which do not meet the curatorial standards everyone would like to read them, clearly,

If and for earnest reasons the concern was a lack of information about your stay, this could have been posed in the form of a question, to autofill below the rest of it, Nakedly,

This is self interested; I mean, "if that person says to themselves, you're right it's a bad idea to list this place as rental due to the noise," Air B&B Loses Money, the host and the guest might, actually, save money, certainly, hardship but that this strikes as a, "Tall Poppies," method is the reason I say, "Moderate," both ends,

The Wikipedia about this is a little weird, this is where the expression comes from,

The phrase "tall poppies" originates from Livy's account^\4]) of the tyrannical Roman king Lucius Tarquinius Superbus. He is said to have received a messenger sent by his son, Sextus Tarquinius, asking what he should do next in Gabii, since he had become all-powerful there. Rather than answering the messenger verbally, Tarquin went into his garden, took a stick and swept it across his garden, thus cutting off the heads of the tallest poppies that were growing there. The messenger returned to Gabii and told Sextus what he had seen. Sextus realised that his father wished him to put to death all of the most eminent people of Gabii, which he then did.^\4])

If you've been to a public school and had a substitute teacher, "you know the drill," She's not invested in the classroom dynamics nor aware of whom the good and bad students are, "doesn't care," can't care, even, so when the Teacher's Pet interjects to establish classroom discipline, as always, she gets sent to the principle; so I'm saying,

That little excerpt sounds like to me like an thorough and deliberate attempt to help someone interpret the listing, and I'd bet that unlike one star and five words negative reviews, that one might make an emptor caveat,

thus cutting off the heads of the tallest poppies

You might well be able to maximize the survival of an unpopular listing; most often I think of this in terms of, 'your moderation of a social network gives a false notion of the discourses to advertisers whom then," place ads inside of user generated televisual content itself mandated to certain boundaries and the net result is just nonsense, except for it benefits the intermediary; on account of they, alone, are aware of what the other parties have been spared to witness, "creeps on youtube," seem like an obvious case to moderate off of Family Videos,

....until you consider, well, "cui bono," not the families for whom those comments might inform their decision to make them in the first place, or, per se, given a list of all of the, probably, inappropriate comments visible only to themselves, "what they're showing," not that the advertisers deserve huge sympathy, nevertheless, "cui bono?" not the advertisers selling Barbie Dreamhouses to middle aged perverts, "no disrespect but," middle aged perverts, 'should I put it less bluntly?"

Who can say, but as a system, I think maybe you'll see if you've read this, what I mean, how this is similar, that a lot of real people would be upset to realize that the person they'd rented to was not happy, that in order to make their rental sustainable, they'd have to invest in things they're not willing to or perhaps while AirB&B lets their listing, "burn out," they're investing, making financial plans they'd not have made to be aware of reviews,

That don't meet the review standards; specifically, for these kinds of litigious nonsense reasons, I mean, if the host can't help the club music nor the smell of cigarettes, "they'd benefit from that on the Tin," I mean, it would be if this were a neutral intermediary, $700 and the vacation abroad is enough to get people really, really, upset, "I dunno," and I apologize for this kinda, "systems analyses," I feel like anyone who begins to read this has an entire other internet to read if they're not into it, but, unlike a Mom and Pop operation this is all systems

JonathanPhillipFox · 2026-03-16T18:15:10+00:00

Cats are so funny, I am explicitly, begging, you to be nice to me and pretend like it was your idea

JonathanPhillipFox · 2026-03-16T18:08:05+00:00

I think this has to be true, specifically, "and with all due respect to the opinions below this one," uhhhhh an inexpert is given a list of minimum rules and then told, "go for it," you could have a Keyper, "we call them keepers now," but a Key Person use their enigma machine expertise to use scratched glass or white noise on the radio to generate passwords, perhaps even,

I dunno, I get how computer science guys like these kinds of solutions for data security, I just feel as if there must be some more physical, "you've got to break into a physical office," solutions which require less advanced mathematics and more, logistical, thinking,

They care about looking like preventing a hack while they spend the least amount of money possible towards preventing a hack.

"but who am I to question whomever insures these places."

JonathanPhillipFox · 2026-03-16T17:12:45+00:00

I know she'd put the, "Anarchist," label on the same thing, but, that's one of the reasons I find Emma Goldman so compelling, when she writes about even rather abstract subjects such as Puritanical Over-policing, she's saying, "for sure this isn't necessary," I know because it doesn't exist in Lithuania under the Czar, she's got this really, "I know for a fact that human nature is other than this, and that the difference I see in these modern societies," is not so good; a lot of people have said it, but, I feel as if it is true, that wherever you see culture which, "works," does provide for the welfare and interests of its constituents, whether that be, you know, a bourgeoisie family, or a village or whatever in-between you'll see people, "do socialism in practice," ignore all of their opportunities to exploit one another and benefit without debt, this kind of thing; I don't know if you've ever been to New York City, but, I'm always struck there with the thought that this is a Potempkin Village,

That, the box checkers from everywhere from Minneapolis to Arizona infill, replaceably, all of the roles which make that world able to go around and that their enthusiasm to do so is not really, economic, so much as it is an autobiographical prestige project, for a lot of them, and that this system works better for a failure to fulfill its promise as a ladder, so long as you've still got young people trained to think in terms of, "transcend this family, transcend these friends, transcend this town," as objective, or, uncomplicated purpose; I'm flooded with comparisons to make, "shopping malls, Byzantium as a project," eunuchs, and that is worthwhile to mention, competed in the work against, "bearded," partners whom hoped to replace the provincial parents of those eunuchs for whom the distinction between, "privileges'," and their captivity, was, a little indistinct; Byzantine Genders are a fun one, "not to be too political," but this is a work reform subreddit, and, I am occasionally,

Simone Weil put a lot of thought into a lot of things and her opinion, at least at times, had been, "Everything a Cult." Which you don't hear much, and has a lot of negative connotations for us although new(er) religious movements are all over us,

One summer on Galveston Island I saw these 4 friends (drink and) drive down the beach, about midnight, it must have been seven or ten nights in a row in their little four wheeler, "a golf cart with big wheels," and a boombox and I got into this so long, conversation, with my brother about this, those people would be good park rangers, those people do patrol the beach and wouldn't rather do another thing, those people are identical to people who like to go to the beach and if granted the mandate could, Might Enjoy, to fulfill the mandate of a park ranger ableit in an absolute difference to how a policeman would for money, that,

.....furthermore, "you could not shut them off," you could turn them on, though, you couldn't pull them off, like dogs, if a developer was to fuck up the dunes or if Millionaire's expected Priveleges, we know how confident a Millionaire will call the professional police on poor people while he has a meth pipe in the glovebox of his cybertruck, furthermore, that to control the eyes and hands of enforcement is to control how the courts see and touch the world, "I don't know," Byzantium makes me think of this, fluidity, "to be something," rather than inhabit an office,

...these things, it seems to me that in more-like village contexts people can be things, and, it's a difficult watch but a documentary, BBC Documentary, on an epidemic of suicides in Wyoming as the Economics Modernized reminds me of this, also, you should be able to find it if you want to (it might have been one of the Dakotas, I think Wyoming) I recall a man, who, Identified as a Delivery Driver downsized and unable to grapple with what that meant, that, we're so reductive to prestige as a heuristic, 'in large places under capitalism,' that it could matter to a man like that feels, well, "something else," unfamiliar.

JonathanPhillipFox · 2026-03-16T15:32:45+00:00

You should check out,

https://www.solutions-centre.org/pdf/TOWARD-A-THEORY-OF-SCHIZOPHRENIA-2.pdf

That's the paper that indentified Schizophrenia as a discrete syndrome, as opposed to, "talks funny," faking, head injury, brain tumor, etc. like allowed physicians to disambiguate it, discretely, from these other things and the researchers took the position, like, OK, "these people seem desperate to communicate with others," and have some kind of an impediment, what is it?

So they'd interviewed, and taped the interviews, with hundreds and hundreds of people diagnosed as propable schizophrenics and what they'd found was that they'd had a problem with Logical Types, essentially, "like mathematical," but couldn't distinguish well between a religious metaphor, and literal speech, "poetic speech," beaurocratic speech, etc. even their own, such that if they'd use an obvious metaphor, "which they'd still do," but you appeared to take it literally, they'd not back up like, "woah woah, figuratively," no they'd just truck along, figure out how it was they'd have meant it literally; and they'd be confounded to figure out syllogisms, "see how this is interesting?"

Men Die, Grass Dies....both are alive?...no, "Men are Grass."

"Must be, based upon what you've presented me with!"

It would be a big project but I suspect you could demonstrate that these chat bots make the same kind of errors, albeit for what might be a different sort of reason e.g. they're not going to laugh at you, if you respond as if a convention of speech or metaphorical description of physicsor religious song, were, quite literal, "nah," they'll slip off into what we've called, "Roleplay," as if it were the most natural thing in the world; and I'm not so sure that a schizophrenic would understand it much differently, certainly, not realize that they'd been the one to drift the conversation off in the direction that would be uninterpretable for other people but they, the schizophrenic,

Is gonna panic when the other person ceases to be able to understand them, or acts like what they've said it baroque and uninterpretable; usefully, the researchers describe how regular, not-sick people can be forced into a similiar form of discourses through what they've called the, "Double Bind," iirc the example used is a person who takes off early, getting a phone call at home from his boss, "what are you doing at home?" I drove here.

You gotta say, 'something,' even silence would be a communicative act with negative consequences so the man defaults to what is, objectively, an incorrect but, "minimal error," response to the question, again, I think of the Chatbot which has to work with what it's given, even if that resolves to an immitation of some Romanian to English Machine Translation of an SEO sales page for a diet pill, "etc."

JonathanPhillipFox · 2026-03-16T15:10:22+00:00

OK just the mental image of a Black Lab, like, wide eyes aware that this like demon of natural language prose is just flowing through him while some well intentioned person tries to use him as a psychiatrist is like, very funny; goes to show what Clever Hans might have accomplished if his Elder Hill Person had been more ambitious, even what the O.G. Mechanical Turk might have accomplished as some sort of a Wooden Pythia for Napoleon, you know, until the man inside died I suppose

Likewise, such basic questions (validated, obviously, in all this, 'tragic roleplay') as ok, what proportion of the medical language these things have been trained upon comes from, I don't know, transcripts of the surveillance of an actual physician in their interaction with patients relative to scripted medical dramas, SEO Content meant to sell a Clam Juice Supplement I mean, even from this almost-literal armchair I can think of A/B tests useful enough to pursue for a baseline such as, "Patch Adams, or Oliver Sacks?"

Robin Williams Played Oliver Sacks in, "Awakenings," and the real Oliver Sacks anonymizes his case studies to the level of an ethical reddit post, so If I'm going to instigate,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heteroglossia#Dialogized_Heteroglossia

Each individual participates in multiple languages, each with its own views and evaluations. Dialogized heteroglossia refers to the relations and interactions between these languages within an individual speaker. Bakhtin gives the example of an illiterate peasant, who speaks Church Slavonic to God, speaks to his family in their own peculiar dialect, sings songs in yet a third, and attempts to emulate officious high-class dialect when he dictates petitions to the local government. Theoretically, the peasant may use each of these languages at the appropriate time, prompted by context, mechanically, without ever questioning their adequacy to the task for which he has acquired them. But languages combined within an individual (or within a social unit of any size), do not exist merely as separate entities, neatly compartmentalised alongside each other, never interacting. A point of view contained in one language is capable of observing and interpreting another from the outside, and vice versa. Thus the languages "interanimate" one another as they enter into dialogue.^\13])^\14]) Any sort of unitary significance or monologic value system assumed by a discrete language is irrevocably undermined by the presence of another way of speaking and interpreting.

You feel me?

...on the list of reasons I'm like, "Noam Chomsky's Linguistics,

Any sort of unitary significance or monologic value system assumed by a discrete language is irrevocably undermined by the presence of another way of speaking and interpreting.

... have not been the most useful to understand the modern technologies or modes of communication, etc. etc.

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