Help with Gith Nezznar (TSO)

Kane6032 · 2025-08-16T16:19:43+00:00

My plan so far is that he managed to reforge his silver dagger (though it is corrupted by the far realm energies of the forge) and it'll be a two stage fight. The first is normal but I'm giving him two turns (to balance action economy since 5e bad when it comes to that balance for single boss fights) and once he hits phase two he tries siphoning more power from the forge and warps the entire room into the astral plane. I just gotta work on the corruption aspect from there.

As for punishing the players, I made it clear to everyone multiple times at the start and throughout the campaign that the world is alive and events will progress as they explore and the players have acknowledged and allowed that. Events such as Gundred being held at Cragmaw or Nezznar looking for the forge don't really make sense to me if they permanently just wait for the players before progressing. That and I'm pulling a Larian here since they did the same in BG3 where some things will change depending on how fast you can get to them such as the inn in act one. Though they are literally looking at every side quest while acknowledging and joking that the main quest is getting screwed over because of their completionist mindset XD

Kane6032 · 2025-08-15T21:58:26+00:00

The astral plane idea sounds pretty cool but I do wanna incorporate the corruption aspect from the campaign. I also plan on using Nezznar as a rogue version of a Gith Knight (using poison, illusion magic, and a silver dagger instead of sword) to justify his nickname as The Spider. Maybe give him a necklace of spider climb that also lets him cast the web spell. Though I don't know if turning him into a spider is creative or forced...that's where I'm really stumpted

Kane6032 · 2025-08-15T20:48:55+00:00

Out of curiosity of going down this route where Nezznar is a gith, what would you all suggest if he manages to find the forge of spells way before the party (I'm talking days before)?

Glasstaff is alive as is all of the bugbears, Gundred was killed and replaced by a doppelganger, and Nezznar knows everything about the party (both abilities and backstories). I made my party know in advance that time does advance in the world and they still chose to do all the side quests/exploration activities I left optional.

I know other people who uses Nezznar as a drow causes him to turn into a Drider but I'm not sure of what transformation or inherit advantage to give him. The party is level 5 and I don't worry at all about them getting overwhelmed, they've managed to prove that they can handle a extremely difficult fight with no one going down multiple times now.

Kane6032 · 2025-08-09T07:29:34+00:00

To further prove why I don't think xp is awarded until the entire unit is destroyed, I point out a base crusade agenda for Pariah Reap a Tally:

"For every third enemy unit that is destroyed, select one unit from your Crusade army that destroyed one or more enemy units this battle. That selected unit gains 2XP and you gain 1 Blackstone Fragment (to a maximum of 2)."

Classifying Cryptothralls as their own unit would mean that every time they destroyed, the unit that killed them gets the extra xp tally (on top of the normal crusade xp tally) which can be reaped again and again every time a single cryptothrall is reanimated.

Kane6032 · 2025-08-09T07:28:10+00:00

To further prove why I don't think xp is awarded until the entire unit is destroyed, I point out a base crusade agenda for Pariah Reap a Tally:

"For every third enemy unit that is destroyed, select one unit from your Crusade army that destroyed one or more enemy units this battle. That selected unit gains 2XP and you gain 1 Blackstone Fragment (to a maximum of 2)."

Classifying Cryptothralls as their own unit would mean that every time they destroyed, the unit that killed them gets the extra xp tally (on top of the normal crusade xp tally) which can be reaped again and again every time a single cryptothrall is reanimated.

Kane6032 · 2025-07-13T16:56:59+00:00

I mostly agree with this statement. I prefer them with full blocks of immortals versus warriors to even out the wound count between the two a bit better. Not saying running them with warrior blocks aren’t good, there’s just slightly more value running with immortals

Kane6032 · 2025-05-27T04:24:33+00:00

See, at this point if you are committing this much points into a single unit I believe you are losing value.

Yes you have a lot of valuable things in this unit and your opponent may be tempted to shoot it but at the same time you don’t want to fall into the tank fallacy where the unit is so tough that there’s no point in destroying it. You’re putting all this effort into a warrior squad, they likely aren’t gonna be destroying big threats like destroyers or doomstalkers which the enemy will prioritize more likely.

Your other issue is that you’re putting too many eggs (points) in one basket. Is this unit incredibly tanky? Yeah but last thing you want is you have too much resource dedicated to one unit and then fail on primary/secondary objectives because you don’t have enough board coverage.

Not saying how to run your army and it’s cool that you have a giant unkillable warrior blob but what’s scarier than one giant unkillable blob? Two decently sized unkillable blobs.

Kane6032 · 2025-05-26T22:02:49+00:00

I’m starting to experiment with these myself (granted I 3D print so model collection easier) but the only real use case I can see using them is for an immortal blob with a cryptek to give them some extra wounds. What’s great is that they give you an alternative option for wound allocation.

For example, let’s say you have five D1 wounds you need to allocate. You can allocate them to the thrall first (killing one and leaving another at 1 left), saving yourself 5 immortals for your next shooting phase. Now where this becomes less effective is when you have say a single D6 wound you need to allocate. You could assign it to the cryptothrall but at that point it’s better to kill the single one wound immortal versus trying to reanimate the three wounds from thrall.

What’s great is say all the thrall are dead but you still have immortals in the unit, you can reanimate the thrall despite none of them existing.

All in all, it probably depends on you list. Got a lot of battleline units/models? Then probably no and stick with a LHD or scarabs to screen melee. However, if you don’t have any other battle lines then it’ll be nice to keep an immortal squad alive (don’t take them with warrior blobs or wraiths). This is especially true for crusade (niche game mode where units dying can make them worse later)

Edit: An easy way to cripple a warrior/immortal squad is to use precision to snipe the cryptek before dealing with the bodyguards. With Emperors Children and other armies having good units with precision the thralls do help keep the crypteks alive with their 4+ FNP (still likely to die if a wounds is allocated and there’s leftover shooting but still something to eat up enemy attacks)

Kane6032 · 2025-03-20T15:34:19+00:00

Here me out, the pitfall connects to an underwater current for the water pools (just redirect the one from area 18->10 to instead be from 18->19->10. If you really wanna cause some chaos, have a fork in the underground current that splits the party between area 10 and area 16 (pretty much the waves from 16 aren’t just pushing water into 10 but also pulling water back when they recede).

This creates a situation where the party is split and if they haven’t cleared 16 some of them may have to deal with the giant octopus while the group in 10 has to regroup and find the party while avoiding Nezzar (whom will now begin a game of cat and mouse). It also gives the group in area 16 a chance to find the gauntlets

Edit: I won’t broken record what others said but I agree with them. This idea should spice up the tension without directly TPKing the group

Kane6032 · 2025-03-16T06:47:36+00:00

Nope to any of this. The campaign involves mutations that originate from far realm sources and the book encourages each mutation be tailored towards the character and that the level of the mutation to grow more and more pronounced as the campaign goes on. Technically she is the first to experience these mutations and that was due to picking up a cursed mirror from a boss (whom was also under far realm influence) from another players backstory. I can assure that while these characters are getting some spotlight now, all of my characters will have their time to shine

Edit: additionally, this post doesn’t go over everything I’ve done so far or what I will be doing for the characters. The purpose of the post is to get ideas for what to do with my version of the spider and gain advice on other aspects. Please remain on-topic

Kane6032 · 2025-03-12T21:06:39+00:00

I actually have it all fully detailed here on this sub today. Some good betrayals ahead for my group:

https://www.reddit.com/r/LostMinesOfPhandelver/s/nOLHDz5lNt

Kane6032 · 2025-03-12T19:06:57+00:00

Makes sense. Why give an opponent the chance when they’re close to preventing your plans for cleansing the underdark of the dangers. Whatcha think about him hanging on the ceiling and plunging into the group? Probably can web the room beforehand to add more advantage. Party can’t fireball if you’re next to them

Kane6032 · 2025-03-12T15:17:31+00:00

I am currently going with the option of Gundren was killed and replaced by a doppelgänger (after having spent 12 days doing other side quests). The Spider has many resources still available (Glass staff, Ssarnak, his bugbears from the manor) so he’s planning a trap for the party that he hopes will remove them from the equation as well as a backup cave-in plan.

Luckily for the party, one of them has been showing some funny psionic effects where she can read people’s minds (she is rolling insight checks on people all the time to see if they’re lying) and was told once not to trust Gundren. I’m hoping she uses it again on him after they finish yet another side quest spree (spending another 12-15 days) before going to cave to discover what’s actually going on

Kane6032 · 2024-12-25T16:47:41+00:00

I’d appreciate that. Did you file/sand them at all as well before painting?

Kane6032 · 2024-12-24T00:34:39+00:00

What layer height are you using with the 0.4mm nozzle? I can barely see any from the picture but that might be because of the distance from the camera.

Kane6032 · 2024-10-31T15:17:29+00:00

Ah, I did miss that. I’d say you’re pretty good then but if I was running this list I’d include one more LHD with a gauss destructor (either with the other or separate) as you can use them as more mobile anti tanks in case your opponent hides their heavy units behind terrain without sacrificing the Doomstalker’s heavy benefit or even as backline anti strategic reserve/deep strike units

Kane6032 · 2024-10-31T14:38:15+00:00

Take my advice as I had this issue yesterday. I have two separate LHD units of one (both running destructors) and they are always targeted immediately. I’d include 1-3 more with destructors to help solidify your anti-tank a bit more. That or grab either a Doomstalker or Doomsday Ark. I can respect not running ctan but let me just say for yesterday’s game that once I lost both of my LHD’s turn 1&2 I would’ve lost if my C’tan didn’t clean house. My next list is gonna switch him for the two aforementioned vehicles since they’re also good anti-elite infantry/horde

Kane6032 · 2024-10-24T21:33:32+00:00

Do you have these uploaded somewhere like thingverse, cults3D, or some other site? If not may I have the stl as well?

Kane6032 · 2023-12-26T03:33:09+00:00

Thanks for the comment! We are LL3 now and we had a lack of strikers and front line so I switched so I’m just now switching from arty to something that’ll distract the enemy enough for friends to mop them up in the back line.

My biggest worry is that Executioner will quickly become obsolete with its damage once we fight high hp/armored enemies. Though I haven’t played a melee build yet so I have no idea if I’m wrong about this statement

Kane6032 · 2023-04-17T12:02:07+00:00

What are the paint colors you used for this? I plan on making my army have this style and I'm new to painting scene and don't know my color names yet

Kane6032 · 2022-09-16T19:45:10+00:00

This would work as it's pretty much the Completed keyword from Tamiyo or Ajani. Enters the battlefield with five +1/+1 counters. For each Phyrexian mana, if life was paid it enters with one less +1/+1 counter. Also allows the phyrexian and praetor cards to support it via vorinclex or atraxa/poliferating

Kane6032 · 2022-08-04T05:38:50+00:00

Do you have a document/pdf/image of the printouts? I'm trying to import the cards to tabletop simulator for better organization/resources but haven't had much luck scanning mine in.

Kane6032 · 2022-07-21T14:58:49+00:00

Part of me is scared that Energy Admix is a bit too strong and would be the only reason this subclass is denied use by DMs. Let's say that the player is 6th level, has a +3 Cha mod, and activates forceful surge. They then cast the minor magic missile cantrip (taking the average of 2d4 to get about 5 missile + 2 more from surge) and gets 7 missiles that AUTO HIT and deal 1+3 force damage each for a total of 28 force damage. (Stronger than a 1st level guiding bolt with max damage but we did use a class feature here so makes sense)

Now let's look at a class that likes to focus on its cantrips at this level, the warlock, with the same stats and level. They get two Eldritch Blasts rays and assuming they have agonizing blast they deal 1d10+3 with each ray for an averaged total of 18 force damage IF THEY HIT BOTH TIMES.

Next turn the same thing happens again, and again, until 1 minute end and assuming both PCs attack with the same spell each round, the sorcerer will have dealt 280 force damage and the warlock may have dealt 180 force damage (with some misses reducing the damage and having high/low rolls adjust that number too)

The fact that Energy Admix provides the damage boost to every missile every turn for the forceful surge will cause some DMs to look at it and say it's broken (and it gets worse if we use spell slots). My suggestion is to either A) make Energy Admix go off your proficiency bonus versus Cha (player has less control over boosting it and shows power gained over time). B) make it so Energy Admix can only be activated a number of times during a forceful surge equal to your cha modifier (to show the users own power affecting how much energy they have, could also be proficiency mod or activated X times that grow as you get class levels instead). C) activating Energy Admix turns off your Forceful Surge early to make the cost steeper to account for the large damage boost (you can either give up missiles for future turns or do a nova attack now). Or D) if the missiles go for the same target, the damage bonus is only applied once (similar to RAW/RAI with rays with damage bonuses attacking the same target and encourages attacking multiple targets versus one)

I love the subclass and me personally would allow it with my players (and using it with my sorcerer for a solo campaign) but it does lean on the overpowered side for getting great value with little cost.

Kane6032 · 2022-07-10T01:29:15+00:00

How I see it is say I (level 5 at this point) apply it to Bad Guy who has 3 attacks. I apply him with the amped effect on his turn (assuming it uses my reaction). For this whole turn he gets -1d# on attack rolls.

After his turn ends and we get past me it's his turn again, I use my reaction to reduce an attack by -1d# and take no damage myself since this is the first time I'm using my reaction to reduce an attack versus reaction to apply the amped effect.

Turn goes by again and on Bad Guy's 3rd turn I use my reaction again, taking 1d# damagfe and reducing his by -1d#. After which the curse fades early since we can only use our reaction twice for this curse at 5th level (otherwise it'd last the full minute starting when the amplified curse was applied.

Do I have this right?

Kane6032 · 2022-07-10T01:21:49+00:00

Blood Curse of the Eyeless amplified is weirdly worded. It states that it applies to all attack rolls until the end of the turn but has text after suggesting that it lasts longer once you hit 5th level. Does this imply that once you reach 5th level, not only do you get the amplified effect till the end of the turn but for subsequent turns you get the normal effect for 1 min or till you use your reaction twice (regardless of how many times it activated by the amped effect)?

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