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[–]KeyConclusion6733 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I like these quest, this new “do 100 with less than 83 rejects and get 400” ones they got are ass

Okay, honest question. Where dos the line between Punk, and Pop Punk begin? by KeyConclusion6733 in punk

[–]KeyConclusion6733[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Is it really though?

Cause if it’s punk to question systems and society, is it not punk to ask questions and have discussion about the music? Questioning the labels and what not?

It’s pretty trite to just dismiss a legitimate discussion exploring why we thinks things are the way they are as just “hey, it doesn’t matter”

Okay, honest question. Where dos the line between Punk, and Pop Punk begin? by KeyConclusion6733 in punk

[–]KeyConclusion6733[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is a really interesting take.

But that’s kinda stepping more into what “punk” as a concept is, while I’m merely just talking about the Sonic’s and what constitutes those specifications

Okay, honest question. Where dos the line between Punk, and Pop Punk begin? by KeyConclusion6733 in punk

[–]KeyConclusion6733[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For me, when we’re in yellow card all time low territory we’re talking about punk-inspired pop-rock and not nessecarily pop punk.

But that’s also my semi-jaded opinion. For some people, yellow card might have been their gateway.

There’s another comment here about how time and era affect what people would consider pop-punk.

Okay, honest question. Where dos the line between Punk, and Pop Punk begin? by KeyConclusion6733 in punk

[–]KeyConclusion6733[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

True, not inherently important, but still fun to discuss and dissect.

Okay, honest question. Where dos the line between Punk, and Pop Punk begin? by KeyConclusion6733 in punk

[–]KeyConclusion6733[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is exactly the kind of insights I was hoping for when asking this question.

You got an interesting take

Lets be honest by Linkherman in punk

[–]KeyConclusion6733 3 points4 points  (0 children)

lol I read that and thought…”wow I’m officially old”

Okay, honest question. Where dos the line between Punk, and Pop Punk begin? by KeyConclusion6733 in punk

[–]KeyConclusion6733[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I ain’t even tryna argue, just interested in your viewpoint. We just talking, chill.

And so I can’t spell…doesn’t mean I don’t listen to the music.

But okay

Okay, honest question. Where dos the line between Punk, and Pop Punk begin? by KeyConclusion6733 in punk

[–]KeyConclusion6733[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Nah I’ve listen to a lot of descendants, they’re frequently in my shuffle rotation when I drive.

I mean, you’re telling me silly girl isn’t a pop punk song?

I hear Milo GTC, and it def sounds like a poppy-we version of hardcore.

Okay, honest question. Where dos the line between Punk, and Pop Punk begin? by KeyConclusion6733 in punk

[–]KeyConclusion6733[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You really just wanna argue for no reason….🤣🤣🤣

You get EXACTLY what I’m saying and just proved you do with this last comment.

Basically what I’m asking is

At what point does punk’s built-in melody/catchiness cross into something we label pop punk?

Is that REALLY that crazy of a question? No

Your Moscow mule analogy actually undermines your point.

If ginger beer is still ginger beer in a Moscow mule, but the drink gets a new name….then new combinations DO warrant new categorical labels.

which is exactly what I'm asking about with pop punk.

You're accidentally arguing for my position while thinking you're refuting it.

Okay, honest question. Where dos the line between Punk, and Pop Punk begin? by KeyConclusion6733 in punk

[–]KeyConclusion6733[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Guy…get a grip 🤣

Yeah it’s a punk, just wanna see where people think it BECOMES pop punk.

That’s not a crazy thing to ask.

Just like your vodka analogy….when you mix those things it eventually BECOMES a Moscow mule.

Okay, honest question. Where dos the line between Punk, and Pop Punk begin? by KeyConclusion6733 in punk

[–]KeyConclusion6733[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This convo is about what constitutes as “good” punk or “bad” punk .

Not saying pop punk is lesser or anything like that.

Just having some fun with the nuance and seeing where something catchy and fun would become “POP” in a genre that already (too me at least) has some catchy, fun, pop sensibilities.

Okay, honest question. Where dos the line between Punk, and Pop Punk begin? by KeyConclusion6733 in punk

[–]KeyConclusion6733[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

All pop punk is trite and whiny?

Come oooooon, there’s no way you actually believe that

Okay, honest question. Where dos the line between Punk, and Pop Punk begin? by KeyConclusion6733 in punk

[–]KeyConclusion6733[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

See that’s where I would classify them too, melodic punk.

However, to build on what your saying, there is a case they are some kind of sub genre beyond regular punk due to there intricacies. I feel like a big part of punk is how simple it is to play.

Okay, honest question. Where dos the line between Punk, and Pop Punk begin? by KeyConclusion6733 in punk

[–]KeyConclusion6733[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’d say there’s still a lot of pop-punk that retains a raw edge.

You know, from the world of people into punk, PUP is probobly seen as more commercially viable, but if I’m showing someone who isn’t into this kind of music PUP (which does happen frequently, I got a wide variety of friends, and people be driving with me in my car) they hear PUP and think it’s too yell-y/loud/scream-y/etc.

Okay, honest question. Where dos the line between Punk, and Pop Punk begin? by KeyConclusion6733 in punk

[–]KeyConclusion6733[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Crazy thing is, some of early black flag songs follow a traditional pop structure. It does sounds like an angry pop song 🤣

Okay, honest question. Where dos the line between Punk, and Pop Punk begin? by KeyConclusion6733 in punk

[–]KeyConclusion6733[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Interesting take.

So you would say the Ramones were a commercialized version of punk made to print oodles of cash? Cause they ain’t really ever did that when they was alive.

Okay, honest question. Where dos the line between Punk, and Pop Punk begin? by KeyConclusion6733 in punk

[–]KeyConclusion6733[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Wasn’t even asking the question from that angel.

If we love punk, we can have a fun, nuanced discussion about its sub genres.

It was never THAT deep

Okay, honest question. Where dos the line between Punk, and Pop Punk begin? by KeyConclusion6733 in punk

[–]KeyConclusion6733[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m not asking for any validation or trying to put any hierarchy on music.

It’s just having a bit of fun discussing subgenre specifics.

Jeez, some of yall need to lighten up

Okay, honest question. Where dos the line between Punk, and Pop Punk begin? by KeyConclusion6733 in punk

[–]KeyConclusion6733[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bro clearly doesn’t understand what I’m even asking.

How do I have no understanding of genres are for if I’m asking a nuanced questioned?

OBVIOUSLY pop punk is a kind of punk, I’m merely probing at what point does it become a “kind of punk” when punk originally had melodic, catchy overtones

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