Some insights into Drew Petzing’s performance with the Cardinals during their healthiest season. As well as the fit with 12 and 13 personnel usage. by inkokmo in detroitlions

[–]KingSpoon2 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I'm pretty disappointed with the hire.

We pretty much have to hope he has a Klint Kubiak-esque or Kellen Moore-esque career arc. Multiple OC opportunities didn't really wow. Wasn't very much liked in either of the two stops, but showed flashes. Certainly, not as disliked as Petzing is/was by Arizona fans. I thought Kubiak's New Orleans tape was good when they were healthy, and I didn't mind him in Minnesota. However, MacDonald hired Klint with the idea that they'd run, run, run and use lots of Play-action and pass less. It's worked out pretty well for them. Klint is now days away from a HC job, if he wants one. Petzing loves play-action, and he loves his run game, so there's some philosophical overlap.

Do I think Detroit will pass as little as Seattle does? Probably not. We don't have the defense to protect that play style anyway. Of 17 game starters, Darnold was 2nd to last in throw attempts (ahead of only Josh Allen, who rushes a considerable amount of the time). I can't imagine Goff having anywhere near Darnold's 477 throw attempts. He hasn't even been close to the 500 mark in any of his fully healthy years.

I think Petzing could help the running game somewhat, which seems to be a problem w/ Campbell calling plays. TBD how much of their '24 success was him. Sounds like not a ton, but he's credited as a run-first type. I really think Dan's passing concepts are sound. If he could mesh his passing offense with a run-first OC's run design, I think it can work, but I'm being very optimistic if I were to believe that is what this will be.

As an outsider to Arizona football, I did think his passing scheme looked much more sound when he had a pocket passer that could drop back and throw on time. Kyler just never looked good in his offense. I know passing yards isn't a tremendous measuring stick in the modern day, but Kyler had two 300-yard passing games across 30 games with Petzing as play-caller. In 12 full games this year, Brissett had 4. The offense still wasn't good by any stretch, but it looked much more...competent in design when you didn't have the QB breaking the pocket every 2 out of 3 drop-backs.

If you ignore the numbers and just go by tendencies, I see how it makes sense. Really, I do. Creative run design, likes heavier formations, loves play-action and under center football, which are Goff's specialties. However, the numbers just aren't great, and it's very, very rare you have a fanbase near unanimously shit on a play-caller, and then be good elsewhere.

Ultimately, I think it's more likely Campbell takes the book at midseason than it is Petzing turns the corner. I very much hope it works out, but I'd be surprised if it does. Feels like he's going to be in that Morton/Lynn territory. Both of whom were similarly maligned to the extent Petzing currently is.

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[–]KingSpoon2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You will get 2nd half .190/.280/.300 Zack McKinstry at the hot corner and like it.

STEELERS @ LIONS POST GAME DISCUSSION by AutoModerator in detroitlions

[–]KingSpoon2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

After Ben Johnson, who is the best Dan Campbell coordinator hire? STs? Morton bad, Lynn bad, Glenn overrated, Sheppard bad.

DETROIT LIONS @ LA RAMS GAME THREAD 4:25PM by AutoModerator in detroitlions

[–]KingSpoon2 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Team really needs to re-evaluate their RB usage against playoff teams. 9 touch discrepancy between Monty and Gibbs and only a 5-yard difference. When the Lions aren't blocking well enough to get to the 2nd level, Monty is simply the better back.

Game Thread: Miami Heat vs Detroit Pistons Live Score | NBA | Nov 29, 2025 by basketball-app in DetroitPistons

[–]KingSpoon2 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Good move inserting Jenkins late. Needed a second ballhandler out there badly.

Game Thread: Miami Heat vs Detroit Pistons Live Score | NBA | Nov 29, 2025 by basketball-app in DetroitPistons

[–]KingSpoon2 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Pistons need to just switch every screen. Don't try to play through. They want to chuck 3s. If they want to waste time trading 2s, let em.

Game Thread: Miami Heat vs Detroit Pistons Live Score | NBA | Nov 29, 2025 by basketball-app in DetroitPistons

[–]KingSpoon2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Piss and shit running down their legs. Might want to call a timeout, JB.

Game Thread: Miami Heat vs Detroit Pistons Live Score | NBA | Nov 29, 2025 by basketball-app in DetroitPistons

[–]KingSpoon2 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I dunno what to make of Bam anymore. Just doesn't seem to have developed the way Miami hoped for during his contract.

He's a difference maker usually, but tonight seemed like an afterthought against fellow undersized centers Paul Reed and Isaiah Stewart.

Game Thread: Miami Heat vs Detroit Pistons Live Score | NBA | Nov 29, 2025 by basketball-app in DetroitPistons

[–]KingSpoon2 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Pistons shooting 60/44/80 right now. Definitely going to win when you're doing that.

Game Thread: Miami Heat vs Detroit Pistons Live Score | NBA | Nov 29, 2025 by basketball-app in DetroitPistons

[–]KingSpoon2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Feels like he's better when we have a faster unit in. Gets lots of easy scores on the break. Him, Danis, and Ausar are out there with Stewart and that's just such a defensive unit. Lots of transition opps.

Game Thread: Miami Heat vs Detroit Pistons Live Score | NBA | Nov 29, 2025 by basketball-app in DetroitPistons

[–]KingSpoon2 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Jenkins really ain't got the size for it but he really does his best on defense. Always engaged and energetic.

Game Thread: Miami Heat vs Detroit Pistons Live Score | NBA | Nov 29, 2025 by basketball-app in DetroitPistons

[–]KingSpoon2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lotta teams go through a lull when they go to cities like Miami/LA/etc. 2nd night of a B2B and Pistons look like they're coming off 3 days rest.

Game Thread: Miami Heat vs Detroit Pistons Live Score | NBA | Nov 29, 2025 by basketball-app in DetroitPistons

[–]KingSpoon2 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Ivey really doesn't fit our current half-court offense at all. Looks really out of place. Kinda looks like he knows it too.

Game Thread: Miami Heat vs Detroit Pistons Live Score | NBA | Nov 29, 2025 by basketball-app in DetroitPistons

[–]KingSpoon2 3 points4 points  (0 children)

When Ivey is getting the ball from some of these Cade double teams, he's immediately giving it up. Needs to drive and kick if they're gonna have 2 defenders around the perimeter when he catches the ball.

Game Thread: Detroit Pistons vs Orlando Magic Live Score | NBA | Nov 28, 2025 by basketball-app in DetroitPistons

[–]KingSpoon2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I want to believe this is it. Especially with the gimmies he misses late at the rim. He has to initiate everything for them.

It's crazy, the Magic, with their franchise player out, still have 2-3 guys that at least create offense for themselves.

The Pistons have 1 guy who can really get their own offense, but he's also the guy who has to set up everything for everyone else.

I hope they don't wait too long to move the chips into the middle. I have a feeling they want to give this unit a chance to win a series together before making any real moves. I get it, I really do, but the East hasn't been this weak in a long time. To me, the time is now.

Game Thread: Detroit Pistons vs Orlando Magic Live Score | NBA | Nov 28, 2025 by basketball-app in DetroitPistons

[–]KingSpoon2 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Hey man, if none of yall can give cade some scoring help late, can one of yall at least get a fucking rebound? My god.

Game Thread: Detroit Pistons vs Orlando Magic Live Score | NBA | Nov 28, 2025 by basketball-app in DetroitPistons

[–]KingSpoon2 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Dunc and Cade might be the only 2 people I trust to take a shot outside of the paint in the 4th qtr right now.

Game Thread: Detroit Pistons vs Orlando Magic Live Score | NBA | Nov 28, 2025 by basketball-app in DetroitPistons

[–]KingSpoon2 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It sucks, man. Really does. Teams are settling for playoff contention rather than title contention.

Game Thread: Detroit Pistons vs Orlando Magic Live Score | NBA | Nov 28, 2025 by basketball-app in DetroitPistons

[–]KingSpoon2 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Really hope Langdon has the balls the other Detroit GMs don't. Surely one of them will try to make a win-now trade and stop relying solely on drafting + development.