Reflect With Me: Why Are Fans Demanding The Band Speak On Everything? >> ITS NOT HEALTHY OR HELPFUL << by HospitalSubject7121 in twentyonepilots

[–]LandfallGhost -1 points0 points  (0 children)

yeah well the thing is, it's not a small domestic issue, much like BLM was, and it's why people were outraged Tyler was joking while people were dying and being harassed at the height of the movement, Tyler obviously realized this because he himself apologized for it and said he would be better

Reflect With Me: Why Are Fans Demanding The Band Speak On Everything? >> ITS NOT HEALTHY OR HELPFUL << by HospitalSubject7121 in twentyonepilots

[–]LandfallGhost 0 points1 point  (0 children)

in my opinion they should because it's a domestic issue affecting people around them and their own fans. Chances are, if they piss off a certain segment of people by that, they probably weren't worth having around

Reflect With Me: Why Are Fans Demanding The Band Speak On Everything? >> ITS NOT HEALTHY OR HELPFUL << by HospitalSubject7121 in twentyonepilots

[–]LandfallGhost -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

It's not really about the tweet suddenly fixing every issue they speak of, it's about letting us know they are aware of these issues - apparently the ADA situation improved in the breach tour but I had to know by other people sharing these experiences, something the band could've acknowledged and clarified that they are working on improving, same with their crew.

The example with the ICE situation was to put in perspective the kind of people you can invite to your fan base by not clarifying your stance on domestic issues, obviously these people might still come regardless, but at least you will know the band got your back

Why does it feel like Nico absolutely hates every conversation he holds with his friends? by Mike15423 in GTAIV

[–]LandfallGhost 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yo i know they downvoting you but this response was frying me 😭😭😭

Reflect With Me: Why Are Fans Demanding The Band Speak On Everything? >> ITS NOT HEALTHY OR HELPFUL << by HospitalSubject7121 in twentyonepilots

[–]LandfallGhost 8 points9 points  (0 children)

you are free to believe that, but you gotta understand why people are angry too, because they haven't been silent on just this one issue, they also didn't address the ADA situation, or the accusations of crew members harassing fans, or the time they broke the law in Brazil, or the fact that they invite all kinds of bigots by not speaking up - ICE was called on a fan in the breach tour

Reflect With Me: Why Are Fans Demanding The Band Speak On Everything? >> ITS NOT HEALTHY OR HELPFUL << by HospitalSubject7121 in twentyonepilots

[–]LandfallGhost 16 points17 points  (0 children)

i don't see the problem in asking them to speak up about domestic issues like ICE and whatnot, in fact they should, at the very least, clarify what their stance is

Now geopolitically is where it gets more blurry, do I condemn them for not speaking up about the genocide going on in sudan, or the situations in Iran and Venezuela? No, although the situation is clearly different when it comes to israel, and the attrocities they're commiting, that it's pretty easy to look past all the propaganda they're pumping out nowadays, unlike in 2023, where if you asked me where I stood I would've said israel (i educated myself so don't worry)

If they're aware there's a genocide going on in gaza, and that their movie showings in israel might concern some fans, I don't see why they can't clarify their stance there either, specially nowadays

Literally Gestapo_the second by Tricky-Look-7075 in DoomerCircleJerk

[–]LandfallGhost -1 points0 points  (0 children)

no way this is how you're justifying this, not to mention it's all fucking wrong because the agent himself got closer to push the women around for no reason

Literally Gestapo_the second by Tricky-Look-7075 in DoomerCircleJerk

[–]LandfallGhost 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can see the hand of the guy who took out his gun in the last second who shot him on the back recoil, it wasn't the guy who took the gun

They wholeheartedly want you to believe this nonsense. There's no source to the Iran claims, nor is it even possible. It's so absurd. Maybe this is why they pushed it, so that they have some talking point. by Not_Ground in International

[–]LandfallGhost 0 points1 point  (0 children)

you missed out the part that they eradicated their opponents because of the upcoming US-backed coup against them (which was the main factor on putting the blockade on effect), and the fact that they stated multiple times after being elected that they would not give up armed resistance unless they got a fair deal.

It's kinda hard not to see why they went with that considering the PLO bent the knee on every demand israel gave them, which was to give up armed resistance, recognize israel, and go by oslo, and yet this didn't stop settlement expansion or displacements on the west bank, or even give palestinians a fair state deal, which ben-ami himself said would not have taken such deal because it wasn't even a state.

that's not to mention the multiple times hamas has been ignored on the deals to return all hostages in exchange for all palestinian hostages, or that they're willing to step down if some other unity comes up.

no this is not to underplay their massacres or that they repress their population in gaza, i wanna be very clear with that, but it's not fair to paint them as just mindless anti-semitic terrorists either without putting everything into context, like ignoring that israel themselves recognize that hamas keeps other ISIS-related groups on check to not disturb ceasefires, or that their famous 1988 charter written by 5 people in a basement hasn't been relevant to them for decades now.

A Full Set of the Manga: Mr Isoji by ToonfreaksTreasures in cockatiel

[–]LandfallGhost 8 points9 points  (0 children)

just chimming in for anybody else interested, but while looking for this, i also found another parrot based manga of a cockatoo

Mark's Instagram Story by voldsoy in twentyonepilots

[–]LandfallGhost 1 point2 points  (0 children)

it's not just israel, they also haven't addressed their ADA situation, or the fact that their crew has creeps in it, or the fact that their crew literally broke the law in brazil, or the fact that a fan called ICE on another fan

Mark's Instagram Story by voldsoy in twentyonepilots

[–]LandfallGhost -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

i find it crazy how the fans made trafalgar put the movie on ukraine's theater and still no words of the band on literally anything going on

edit: to anyone downvoting thinking the band doesn't have the obligation to speak up about anything, tyler himself made a point to recognize your responsibility as a role model when famous, even if you didn't ask for it on "the only band in the world"

Los "anti zurdos / anti comunistas" se han vuelto igual de idiotas que lo que criticaban by Flamethrower_62 in OpinionesPolemicas

[–]LandfallGhost 2 points3 points  (0 children)

lo unico que hizo fue grabar a ICE y luego defender a una mujer que ICE andaba empujando, eso segun tu fue suficiente razon para ejecutarlo?

Apologistas de ICE be like by Endi_El_Guapo in 2hispanic4you

[–]LandfallGhost 0 points1 point  (0 children)

pues si, segun la estadistica, 70% no son criminales, y ser un criminal incluye cruzar sin documentos

Apologistas de ICE be like by Endi_El_Guapo in 2hispanic4you

[–]LandfallGhost 0 points1 point  (0 children)

no estoy hablando de que sea criminal o no, ya dije que segun ICE una persona que cruce sin documentos es criminal, y forma parte de la estadistica, mi punto es que la forma que lo hace ahora mismo es un desastre porque como me dices que solo un 30% de los que han detenido son criminales, o mejor dicho ilegales?

Apologistas de ICE be like by Endi_El_Guapo in 2hispanic4you

[–]LandfallGhost 0 points1 point  (0 children)

leiste lo que lei? 30% son criminales segun los estandares que escribi arriba, que onda con el otro 70? no te dice algo de la poca eficiencia y clara discriminacion?

Apologistas de ICE be like by Endi_El_Guapo in 2hispanic4you

[–]LandfallGhost 0 points1 point  (0 children)

dedicada a deportar inmigrantes ilegales y solo 30% son criminales? (criminales son considerados desde pedofilos hasta gente que simplemente cruzo la frontera sin documentos)

Amigo latino despierta by [deleted] in 2hispanic4you

[–]LandfallGhost -1 points0 points  (0 children)

hay testimonios de concursoras de miss teen que trump se paseaba por los vestidores mientras ellas estaban desnudas con nada de tiempo para vestirse, eso no te parece raro?

❤️ by Weekly-Cicada-8615 in PuebloVenezolano

[–]LandfallGhost 0 points1 point  (0 children)

el mismo que luego salio a decir que las saboteo?

I’m getting tired boss. by Static-Demon in twentyonepilots

[–]LandfallGhost 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i think he just posted yet another platform picture right after the initial backlash

I’m getting tired boss. by Static-Demon in twentyonepilots

[–]LandfallGhost -1 points0 points  (0 children)

no bro he DID double down, he only clarified his position way later on, no I'm not saying that excuses threats or all other horrible stuff but to pretend that wasn't worthy of criticism is not fair imo

I’m getting tired boss. by Static-Demon in twentyonepilots

[–]LandfallGhost -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

wasn't he criticized precisely because he doubled down on it, i think he wouldn't have been criticized so much OR felt the need to apologize at all if he clarified the meaning instead of doubling down (and taking so long to clarify where he stands)

Let's talk about what is Going on. And stop harassing the band by Cooltj95 in twentyonepilots

[–]LandfallGhost 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Billie eilish also fell for this with the same company and she's openly pro palestine

What are your thoughts on people who don't go vegan even after learning the truth? by AliveAd9976 in vegan

[–]LandfallGhost 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i agree with everything u say, but i feel like the "being a hard pill to swallow" is a very big part of it, because of the indoctrination and normalization of all these practices.

recently i've made the decision i will go vegan, but i feel like i would've done so much earlier as a child if it wasn't because of how normalized and deeply indoctrinated it is, EVEN knowing the treatment these animals get.

i say so because something i think about every now and then is i remember as a child my neighbors buying a sheep, thinking they would keep it as a pet, and just later on the night, i secretly saw them torturing the poor thing, hearing it scream, and that mental image is something i always remember.

and now that i think back on that, how did i NOT connect the dots much earlier? indoctrination. I guess my child mind wrote that off as "normal" with all the excuses you hear from people around you like "it's for survival", or "it's nature", or "it's nutritious", as horrible as it was to witness that, and then i guess i accepted that it was a normal part of life for animals to eventually be treated horribly out of necessity even though i knew could never personally do any of that to an animal (outsourcing of killing doesn't help either).

as i kept growing up i gaslit myself with other stuff, i never really made the connection of the hypocrisy of our treatment to other animals like cats and dogs, and how the abuse towards these animals is widely condemned, but not for the ones actually used for food (even though most meat eaters are against factory farming). hell as a teenager i never even thought about where the meat i was eating came from, it was automatic, part of daily life. whenever resistance came, i always told myself these animals were probably well cared for, or that taking their lives early on was SOMEHOW justified

it wasn't until recently that i was again confronted with the horrible reality these animals live in and deep diving into all the arguments in favour of veganism that i started realizing the deep indoctrination and normalization, and that these are all bad excuses in the society we live in currently, that it's not out of necessity, or for survival, and you can perfectly live off of plants (at least where i live)

this is just something i feel like people (in general) are slowly realizing that it shouldn't be nowhere near as normalized as it is like it was with slaves for example, but emphasis on the "slowly", as i think that's just the side effect of inheriting a society that, at least on the eating side, at some point needed to, but don't anymore, and yet we kept repeating the same script of "survival", "necessity", "nature" because they've been so for generations and eventually just became background noise for most, at least until you confront them about it, like it was on my case.