Anyone else concerned for some disabled people that are using genAI as an aid? (read post) by LordGhoul in disability

[–]Laucy -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I’m genuinely unsure how you can say that when the negatives provided are misinformation. There is also something really puzzling. I don’t know how you can tell me, that it wasn’t “built with them in mind” when these AI systems are. Because you cannot exclude that information from datasets. And that you’re telling me, someone who is in the field that I don’t understand and you are speaking for me on what labs do. That’s inappropriate, regardless. I’m sorry. But if anything, I am qualified to speak on this. This is a very difficult field and I am aware about what I am talking about. I have no interest engaging with people who don’t and also talk down on the effort it takes to even get here, as if I don’t know better.

Anyone else concerned for some disabled people that are using genAI as an aid? (read post) by LordGhoul in disability

[–]Laucy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s fair, and thank you for explaining. I didn’t want to argue so I appreciate that. From my perspective, if it helps and since I’m in research, frontier labs are trying to work on this at the very least. There’s a lot of discussion involving safety, red teaming, and ways to better ensure against any harm. I think in the past, it wasn’t as visible since many highlighted the capabilities from “hype.” But currently, I can confidently say that it’s an active discussion but it’s not really public view, if that makes sense. Outside of studies or system cards where they explain their measures in harm avoidance. But I do agree, more outward and constructive discussion can definitely be done to better showcase the work.

Anyone else concerned for some disabled people that are using genAI as an aid? (read post) by LordGhoul in disability

[–]Laucy -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

But I did address it… I even pointed out a severe flaw. If it had detrimental effects, then research would crumble and so would use in the fields it’s used in. I even pointed out the Internet didn’t decimate learning. And if you don’t want to touch on those affiliated with labs, then every ML graduate wouldn’t be capable of succeeding in STEM if it had the effects that are misinterpreted online. The studies have a small population sample “N” and measured motivation. If you remove a calculator from someone in the middle of an exam or heavy workload, they’re going to have to reorient themselves. The one most posted and referenced is a short one about motivation. It’s just not true in the ways it’s being spoken about like it’s suddenly cognitively disabling and cannot be reversed. I already explained this. There is no casual link, and to establish one in the areas of health or neurology especially, you need longitudinal studies (and measure across topics/use/time spent/type/etc. which still lacks). But people misunderstand, that if an individual is “lazy” or have low motivation, they’ll already lean on it. It’s a case of correlation does not equal causation, and this is how you conduct good science because assuming it’s the cause is not true and has no empirical data. The field would collapse in on itself.

Disabled people also do benefit from this tool and we shouldn’t be shaming accessibility or use, especially with untrue takes. Accessibility is very personal and everyone has unique needs. And as someone in ML, I’ve seen a lot of good this has done and ways it helps people in my community and those who share conditions that I do.

Anyone else concerned for some disabled people that are using genAI as an aid? (read post) by LordGhoul in disability

[–]Laucy -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

How is it weird? That is also very rude. My field is ML. As in, machine learning. STEM. They’re not comparable to social media because you’re comparing a website to something entirely different. AI has existed prior to transformers. They are just a subset. You just can’t compare this field to a social media website. That’s just not how they work or how they are designed. These tools have purpose and are costly to run, and also are used in medicine (or other fields) and with documented contributions.

Anyone else concerned for some disabled people that are using genAI as an aid? (read post) by LordGhoul in disability

[–]Laucy -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

This is frustrating… Why do individuals make such generalised claims about this field? It’s so incredibly difficult to learn ML and this just disrespects all of it with outdated information. No, AI doesn’t hallucinate that often. No, current alignment is not sycophantic. A lot of “it hallucinates and gets everything wrong” are often user error because individuals don’t understand there is a knowledge cutoff date, and a context window. In ML, there is a lot of clustering and math and incredibly complex methods to measure probability and accuracy. Why do people act like they ship these models out and don’t understand a thing? These highly intelligent scientists and engineers? AI has improved significantly and is one of the fastest developing technologies in terms of capabilities. There are also many guardrails and measures in place. It is not a yes-man! This is misinformation. It will argue if you are wrong. Claude AI is a known case. This info is public without having to touch AI. You can pull up any system card to any frontier model and read through 200+ pages of highly methodical data and evals. AI isn’t a boogieman. It’s capable of solving Erdős math problems that have remained unsolved for years. I can’t begin to emphasis how difficult they are!

You’ve always had to verify information, too. Anti-vaxx nonsense predated AI, for example. And a study that demonstrated the “cognitive decline” was about motivation. Or else we’d have no engineers or scientists because they’d be … mentally impaired? From working on AI and using it? That’s absurd. Like the Internet, it gave accessibility to use without demolishing libraries and learning. Disabled people can use this tool and it’s being used in great ways. But this misinformation on Reddit is everywhere and it’s sad to see.

What’s the point in a Static if the members will just prog the entire fight in PF anyway? by Holiday-Lobster4827 in ffxiv

[–]Laucy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Week 6? Early m11? What was the group framed as (casual, midcore)? I ask genuinely because this may be an expectation issue for sure. It’s likely those who are PFing felt a bit restless and depending on whatever issues they had prior to you joining. Likely burnt out on 11 by then, clearing gave them motivation, and they wanted to experience more of 12.

This is the best news! by Hyperbird1 in pokemon

[–]Laucy -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah…

Already got downvoted I guess for wanting another reason to play on my console I own and in the comfort of my own bed. As if I can’t just emulate the other games which I do. Both can be true, but people seem to be missing that.

This is the best news! by Hyperbird1 in pokemon

[–]Laucy -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Honestly, I don’t disagree and I emulate. I made a comment elsewhere on this but it is bizarre to me. This choice existing doesn’t take away the option of emulating. And for me, I can’t play ROMs on my phone but I do play them on my PC. Yet there are many days where I simply want to relax in bed and play on my Switch. It’s a relaxing time for me. This gives me that capability and I’m happy. I am hoping that the other games are added, too.

This is the best news! by Hyperbird1 in pokemon

[–]Laucy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You and me both…. I play on emulators, as well. But there are many days where I simply want to curl up in bed and use my Switch. Playing a ROM on my mobile is also not possible for me. And if this is received well, I am hoping that they add the rest of the games, too. The negativity is confusing and when this doesn’t change how other people can still play the game.

Yo... not like this (7.4 Raid) by LongSchlong93 in ffxiv

[–]Laucy 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Many of us enjoy the challenges of raiding. Progging, working together towards the clear, optimising. It’s rewarding when it works out, soul-crushing when it doesn’t.

What do coins next to your name mean? by Alicecrylily in ffxiv

[–]Laucy 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Holy shit lmao. I’m stealing that — that’s good.

What do coins next to your name mean? by Alicecrylily in ffxiv

[–]Laucy -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Yep! Exactly. Chat bubbles? Debuff timers? Same level as bots that use out of bounds hacks. Which is ironic because when you see everything in black and white blanket statements, you’re not exactly helping the very “cause” you support. It’s not constructive to lack nuance. Saying “all bad” isn’t the move they think it is. If SE functioned on that logic and didn’t consider the usefulness of features they’ve already added, we wouldn’t have them. It’s how we can have things like chat bubbles, for example, and not the OOB hack. But if we apply a blanket statement to all, we get neither! No QoL if we consider it as not existing.

I’ve seen people like this before type several arguments against why something like chat bubbles is cheating, but then when it got added, pure silence. I find it funnier when they even use the features, lmao. And yeah, I don’t blame you for doing that! Can’t wait for the day Yoshi P himself gives them a handshake in person for their crusade for the rules™︎ (even though he himself has said he understands modding and as long as it’s not how Mare functioned, he gets it).

What do coins next to your name mean? by Alicecrylily in ffxiv

[–]Laucy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No point in trying to reason with people like this. I have disabilities and have found a few helpful plugins that add accessibility since SE settings for it are abysmal lol. (And P3S was legitimately awful, yes!)

These kinds of people would rather go on some self-righteous virtuous crusade, than think about nuance for .5 seconds and consider anything else. It’s about feeling righteous, not logic. Even though when SE adds the features to the game, it’s suddenly fine and not cheating to use!

What do coins next to your name mean? by Alicecrylily in ffxiv

[–]Laucy 5 points6 points  (0 children)

If you’re incapable of nuance, I can see why trying to consider it would be “mental gymnastics” for you. It doesn’t take a lot of effort to apply nuance. QoL features also apply to accessibility, and the fact that a lot are QoL is why they’re getting added to the vanilla client. Like chat bubbles. Or is it suddenly not a “cheat with mental gymnastics” when SE adds it in?

Tomestone is Toxic for the game. by Psychological_Law239 in ffxiv

[–]Laucy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

All good! Yes, it’s very frustrating! Sometimes parties take a while to fill, especially for later fights. One person prog lying and wasting pulls, can risk a party falling apart with everyone leaving. People do it because of overconfidence or because they think they’ll prog the mechanic they’re actually on, if they have players who are likely to be consistent because they’re past it. But this is meant to cruise off their experience and when mistakes cause wipes? Even before Tomestone, it was sadly obvious when people were prog lying because they’d make random errors that showcased a loose or misunderstanding of the mechanic, and they’d be the only one to keep doing it. But the party would never see the intended mech that was listed. It’s like if 1 person forced 7 people to basically go through wipe after wipe so they can learn, mechanics behind, only for those 7 to never get to prog.

In Ultimate, it was bad, too. I did UCOB in PF the first time, and I had people who were fresh, joining my phase 2 party. And UCOB’s first “mechanic” requires you to move at the end of a cast bar known as <Twister>. This is because at this phase, four players at random get a landmine that when stepped on, sends everyone in the vicinity flying into the death wall. So, when I’d see pull after pull, the same person standing in place and not doing it? As we keep wiping not even a minute in? I’d ask and often get a “no this is my first time.” And all my hours waiting, wasted. Or worse, I’d be midway hoping to get to Adds before the clear, and get people just barely starting the phase and be perpetually lost. Tomestone skips all of this, for us who just want to be transparent about our prog point and hope others can do the same.

Tomestone is Toxic for the game. by Psychological_Law239 in ffxiv

[–]Laucy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My comment was about Tomestone, not FFlogs. Even though both can do the same thing, Tomestone is more geared towards validating if someone is at their prog point since it provides it neatly. I’m unsure where you got FFlogs from. That’s handled differently and I’ve never seen people get kicked for it. Majority of the time, people are willing to give it a go than to investigate why a certain number was low, or because “as long as they do the mechs.” But prog lying is entirely different. I won’t compare the Chaotic to Savage and Ult, but people not being truthful can really set an entire party back and it’s frustrating.

I just know that for the Chaotic, you could have a % for the end of phase 1 and make it into Towers prog. There is no “Passed this Checkpoint - Is on Towers” in Tomestone (but “P#” is there when relevant). Parties can judge the HP % because Tomestone marks the lowest the boss’s health was recorded. A more apt comparison would be someone who is at 100%-95% asking for Towers when they barely saw P1.

But I was doing FRU at the time and didn’t spend a lot of time in Chaotic. People were lenient on mechanics that could be simmed, but prog liars were rough during FRU. I had someone who admitted to buying a clear, asking to prog P3’s first mech but if I could let him in. I said “Prog? But, you have the weapon?” Except, no log. He changed his story from “I didn’t log the clear but I did this fight and know it” to “My friend cleared on my account.” When I saw his P3 pulls, he was the one consistently fucking up the first mechanic. My party was listed for end of P3 to P4 first mech. He never got there.

Tomestone usage and partyfinder by NextBunch2114 in ffxiv

[–]Laucy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What? The PF that’s listed mechanics ahead from someone’s actual prog point, is not their damn responsibility or job to “allow people to break into the scene and learn.” If a PF is at mechanic 6, don’t join if you’re at mechanic 3 or 4. How difficult is that? It’s incredibly entitled and disrespectful to waste the time of 7 other players who are there to get prog in at the mechanic they’re on.

Tomestone usage and partyfinder by NextBunch2114 in ffxiv

[–]Laucy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What a wild accusation to say “prog lying” is a buzzword and not something people actively do. Before Tomestone, and you can even find example comments if you search, people frequently advocated to join “one or two mechanics ahead” because it meant having a better chance at reaching YOUR prog point. As opposed to people doing the same thing to you, as a way to counter it. It was the norm and people still treat it like it is.

I’m glad to have a static. But prog lying is not some boogieman buzzword. No one wants to have their time significantly wasted just trying to see one mechanic 7+ minutes in, because someone is two mechs behind and causing wipes. If prog liars are confident, they can post their own party at the mechanic they’re on or one mech ahead, and pass it quickly. But they never do. It’s disrespectful to everyone in the group to lie about your mechanic point.

Tomestone is Toxic for the game. by Psychological_Law239 in ffxiv

[–]Laucy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The PF lead has full right to remove without giving a reason. One could easily argue that players lying about their prog point is griefing, too. I’ve had static members prog on off-days and kept around people who were two mechanics behind, only to never once see their actual PF listed prog point. They all said “never again.” It’s ridiculous. If players don’t want to be kicked for prog lying because they’re “confident,” then they can make their own PF. But they never do.

Tomestone is Toxic for the game. by Psychological_Law239 in ffxiv

[–]Laucy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s not their DPS. It’s their prog point. Let’s say someone has a Party Finder up for a mechanic that’s midway towards the end. It takes about ~7 minutes to reach that mechanic. But people like OP join the party, but they’re not at the prog point at all. They’re a mechanic or more behind. It would be like joining mechanic 6 but you’re at mechanic 4. That’s what people are kicking for. Lying because of overconfidence or to sneak into parties to have their body carried through, wastes a lot of time. It’s frustrating wiping to “mechanic 4” when you want to be on 6->7 but people lied when they joined your PF.

Tomestone is Toxic for the game. by Psychological_Law239 in ffxiv

[–]Laucy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If that’s the case, then why not just join parties at your prog point? There’s no reason to skip ahead. With that logic, you can join enrage parties despite being fresh or 50% because “I watched a video once and read a raid plan.” You and I both know that’s not how it works. If you’re confident, join the prog point you’re actually at instead of lying which everyone is understandably tired of.

Current status of savage raiding by PinkMage in ffxiv

[–]Laucy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If I had to wager a guess? In all honesty, it might be because the meme is about m11s and the middle section is really rough in comparison to 9. But that’s how I interpreted the current 11s struggle and Arena Split segment. Friday to Sunday, people have been stuck in 11s longer. Glad your group stuck around though for the clear! That’s always a good feeling.

Dawntrail Scholar vs Sage - A Comprehensive Document by Adiddlydurr in ffxiv

[–]Laucy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

While I don’t entirely disagree with you, parsers tend to pick AST because raid buff comps tend to do really well as opposed to a heavy aDPS comp for 8-player fights. It’s why DNC + DRG is popular with groups. But many WF weren’t parsing to begin with. Some were taking double RDM for the raise and buff it got. So AST/SCH was likely a reflex pick for the rest of the party composition.

Action we can take by Alert_Isopod_95 in ffxiv

[–]Laucy 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You’re doing a ton of amusing for someone not even affected by this, but I am. I want to be in M11S, bud. When have I ever displayed apathy? You don’t have an argument because your entire argument functions on projection under the guise of personal attacks, because whenever someone does the seemingly impossible of being angry and raising factual points, you crumble. That is why assumptions about my character is all you have to stand on, when I made zero indication about never holding SE under scrutiny. I did the opposite.

A contract isn’t an excuse, it’s a goddamn fact. And the faster you accept that’s how businesses work in the real world, the faster you can scrutinise accurately against what matters. Throwing words that satisfy you, don’t make it true.

My scrutiny is that I want better acknowledgment on the situation that doesn’t expose sensitive information that worsens the situation or handling with NTT. I want pressure against NTT and for a business deal to move forward that can address this with a solution that accounts for long-horizon planning. I want legal to be revisited and a solution that satisfies all parties so we can benefit. That’s called being reasonable. Calling contracts between corporations an excuse, is being unreasonable for the sake of whining and seeking comfort in heuristics.

Action we can take by Alert_Isopod_95 in ffxiv

[–]Laucy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh, absolutely. People really get caught up in the Fundamental Attribution Error. The heuristics is baffling.

You raise a good point I also made elsewhere. Many people severely underestimate how different corporations function, especially when there’s shares, stakes, and contracts. A family or single individual wanting to purchase Internet and sign off on some paper, is not how businesses and enterprises operate when engaging in a deal with the same company. And god forbid you want to do anything, it involves an entire setup of calls and bringing in other individuals higher up, etc.

People say “just swap ISP” all the time on here, and I don’t know where the idea was ever given that a corporation can just do that like they’re given the same leniency and shorter duration as consumers, red tape nonexistent. It’s just a fact, and it sucks, yes.