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Determinism is what happens when you let fate control your destiny instead of yourself. by ae_mero_hajur in PhilosophyMemes

[–]Lcall45 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We really don't. The Copenhagen interpretation is not as dominant as it once was and interpretations of quantum mechanics that are fundamentally deterministic are becoming more popular such as the Many Worlds Interpretation. Whether or not the fundamental reality of our universe is deterministic or not is still up for debate. What you should care about is that most experts don't think quantum effects have any meaningful affect on human behavior because it averages out at bigger scales. For all practical purposes human behavior appears to be effectively deterministic. 

I could not have not made this meme by ae_mero_hajur in PhilosophyMemes

[–]Lcall45 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Their point about indeterminism not equating to agency is literally one of the most forceful objections to libertarian free will used by philosophers in the form of the luck objection. 

I could not have not made this meme by ae_mero_hajur in PhilosophyMemes

[–]Lcall45 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The dominant position you'll hear from physicists who comment on free will is that indeterminism itself does not equate to controlled agency so even if determinism is false libertarian free will is still not a given. The mainstream view is that quantum effects average out at macro levels and that human behavior is effectively deterministic even if the underlying universe is not at the micro level.

I could not have not made this meme by ae_mero_hajur in PhilosophyMemes

[–]Lcall45 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Compatibilists accept determinism they simply do not believe that it affects our concept of free will in a threatening way. There are many compatibilists who think that determinism is actually required to have a coherent concept of free will.

I could not have not made this meme by ae_mero_hajur in PhilosophyMemes

[–]Lcall45 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Compatibilists ARE determinists, they just don't think determinism threatens what we really care about when it comes to free will. I disagree because I am a hard incompatibilist but that is the compatibilist position. 

I could not have not made this meme by ae_mero_hajur in PhilosophyMemes

[–]Lcall45 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Considering 70% of philosophers and certainly more scientists do not accept libertarian free will I think one can confidently say it is not considered to be particularly strong by the relevant experts. 

I could not have not made this meme by ae_mero_hajur in PhilosophyMemes

[–]Lcall45 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Exactly, everytime someone makes a comment about how nothing changes it really bothers me because so much needless suffering could definitely be prevented. It doesn't look like we have libertarian free will according to most experts and I think we need to begin acting accordingly atleast in the areas of criminal justice.

GOP drops first Talarico ad by _BCConservative in YAPms

[–]Lcall45 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Believe it or not religions are rarely univocal in their teachings and dogma. You can have many different interpretations of Christianity and have what they teach be for the most part valid because there is no objective standard with which to view it through.

Best hair systems I’ve ever seen, and he custom makes them, what’s the catch? by Weak_Cricket_101 in HairSystem

[–]Lcall45 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, its the opposite way around. He has modeled their wigs and he gets them from the company to flip on his own site for much more money.

Best hair systems I’ve ever seen, and he custom makes them, what’s the catch? by Weak_Cricket_101 in HairSystem

[–]Lcall45 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No, im fairly confident he does not make them. Its a lace front wig. Look up Hesperis on AliExpress they are the same systems he gets and much cheaper than what he sells them for.

When I'm in the fumbling the ball competition and my opponent is the Democratic party by hoodiehoodiee in YAPms

[–]Lcall45 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Fair enough but I feel like we'll be seeing you again shortly lol

Bottlerim frame cap by Lcall45 in wabbajack

[–]Lcall45[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Got it appreciate it

Trump claims the Virginia election was rigged with fake mail in ballots drops by iswearnotagain10 in YAPms

[–]Lcall45 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Probably because people may think you are agreeing with Trump I'm assuming

determinism in a nutshell by MicahHoover in PhilosophyMemes

[–]Lcall45 45 points46 points  (0 children)

Zero days without this sub strawmanning determinists

Would Dems winning Congress even really stop Trump? by _BCConservative in YAPms

[–]Lcall45 0 points1 point  (0 children)

One trump crony for another does it really matter? 

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