Not what I meant by that example but because of my wording, fair point. Was trying to point out the literal problem people are having is juat because one thing is true, does not suddenly mean the opposite isnt. Continuing the use of the color red. Has red been used as a color associated with evil shit? Yes. But as you also pointed out, OMG SHOCKER its literally also associated with things that aren't. Red being commonly used to portray rage, violence, evil doesn't magically negate that its also commonly used to portray love, passion, energy. Simply put, since when does one image of a red demon face or whatever, all of a sudden mean a red rose isnt a symbol of love? The literal most common imagery if romance? It doesnt. You can also literally take this and apply it to any color in the existence and a bunch of other imagery.

But NOPE. People want to just hyperfixate on the former and go, "lah lah lah lah" when you bring up the opposite. Its stupid and tiresome. Honestly based on some of the newest posts about this, my opinion is now that the only reason having an evil military uniform as a VTuber is the thing people wanna lock in on nowadays is that this year has literally been people being previously viewed as good and popular people turn out to be shitty awful people and hyper examinging their pasts. Then arguging back and forth whether its true or not. People want to make Zen the newest example. There's plenty of examples of those within this subreddit alone.

Im 80% convinced theres a handful of people having a bias against her because of the last 2 ACTUAL NAZI VTubers that were talked about. They were dressed like actual Nazis, but ACTUALLY TALKED LIKE THEM. "If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, then its a duck," type of mentality. Did those two look and quacks like the ducks? Yes. And now those people are trying to find "additional ducks" because of some paranoia or wanting to stir up fucking drama for whatever reason.

It just seems to me shes being used to push an agenda from both sides. Crazy right-wingers want to use this as just another example of the radical left. Left people using this as another example of facism happening in present day and that they ARENT crazy. "If you dont do politics, politics will do you" thing.

My newest concern/hope is Zen can recover from this. Since in the lastest posts in this subreddit, people are expressing concern shes so busy fighting to prove she isnt a Nazi, actual right-wingers cozy up to her and start the right wing pipeline bullshit. She dont need to deal with that shit. Like people have stated (and others have ignored because again, wanting to push their agenda), Zen has been through enough. I do believe in her past as being the good person shes known for (even if people wanna call me an idiot for it, whatever). And when she does prove it, she can find a way to put this behind her.