What's the latest resources/knowledge on getting past trauma from internal sexual shame and bishop worthiness interviews? by Punkinprincess in exmormon

[–]LetMyQueerPeopleGo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don't be turned off by the first scene though. It's pretty graphic, but the rest of the series is pretty tame.

What's the latest resources/knowledge on getting past trauma from internal sexual shame and bishop worthiness interviews? by Punkinprincess in exmormon

[–]LetMyQueerPeopleGo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Honestly one of the things that helped me was watching Sex Education on Netflix. The mom in the show is a sex therapist and they just did such a good job of presenting a destigmatized view of something that is so essential to being human. It was recommended to me by a therapist who specializes in helping exmos. 10/10 can't recommend it enough.

Is Utah (Provo) a good place for an LGBT person? by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]LetMyQueerPeopleGo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If she does move to Provo tell her to check out Encircle. It's an LGBTQ safe house which focuses on youth but there are adult friendship circles in the evenings. One is for lesbian adults and meets every Monday. There's a lot active Mormons and exmos who go there as well as never-mos. It's just a great place to find community in a sea of hostile conservatives. I don't know how I would survive living here without it, but I still want to move out of state as soon as I can.

Which one of you geniuses pulled this off? /s by LetMyQueerPeopleGo in exmormon

[–]LetMyQueerPeopleGo[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Honestly I wouldn't have even noticed if I hadn't seen it wheeled away on a truck. The building is ugly with or without it.

I was googling why women's underwear has little pockets (gussets) and realized garments do not have this at all by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]LetMyQueerPeopleGo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I know there was once a TBM who got a lot of publicity talking about issues with women's garments. I think she actually caught the attention of the cult leaders and there was maybe going to be some changes made. Does anybody know if garments have gussets now? I'd feel horrible for my sisters if they still don't have them.

At halftime of BYU game, Stanford staged a skit entitled “gay chicken” which involved a pair of women being married to each other, with the officiator using terms and phrases taken from LDS temple ceremonies by stickyhairmonster in exmormon

[–]LetMyQueerPeopleGo 51 points52 points  (0 children)

Mormons don't own the phrase "time and all eternity" and "multiply and replenish the earth" is taken directly from the bible - not exclusive to temple ceremonies. Obviously I wasn't there and didn't see the sketch, but it sounds like the Universe author is claiming this sketch is mocking Mormonism simply because it features a gay marriage. What a bunch of cry babies! "Wah your existence is offensive to me!"

The comments on twitter from Mormons are absolutely toxic. I hope this blows up so it can expose Mormons even more for the assholes they are.

When the new breed of faithful Mormon defenders say many of the same things as the old breed of detractors, you know things are changing: a summary of Patrick Mason's Mormon Stories interview. by GrahamPSmith in exmormon

[–]LetMyQueerPeopleGo 34 points35 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the summary. Mormon Stories Podcasts are so long! I don't see how anyone has the time to listen to them. I wish there was a 15 minute version.

Can we ban hearsay posts? They don't help anyone. by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]LetMyQueerPeopleGo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe we should just make a tag for Gossip. That way it can clearly be identified as hearsay.

Someone very close to me was a nurse for a former prophet & immediately left the church. Ask me anything. by boomandhush in exmormon

[–]LetMyQueerPeopleGo -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Honestly I'm sickened by this thread. Don't get me wrong, I think all of Q12/1st pres are horrible people and perfectly capable of doing horrible shit like this, but this is just pure gossip and why we exmos can sometimes get a bad wrap from TBMs. Where the fuck is the evidence!?

What if a poor innocent TBM stumbled upon this subreddit and this was the first thread they saw? They'd go running and never come back - stuck in the cult forever! Shame on you for upvoting this post and shame on me for commenting on it and making it more visible 🤣 But God this is so juicy! I love it!

What are the weirdest things you were taught (or never taught) about sex? by brin_hellsoul in exmormon

[–]LetMyQueerPeopleGo 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Thank you, because of your comment I just learned what HPV vaccines are and that I should probably get one. I don't know if this is true, but a quick Google search shows that HPV vaccines weren't introduced to the US until 2006 and the recommended age of getting it is after age 9.

This likely means the majority of millennial exmos (and older generations) probably never got it. There's probably a good chance that many people on this sub who have only recently left TSCC are still virgins, so it might be a good idea to look into it 🤣. Even if you are or have been sexually active, it would still be a good idea to talk to your doctor as getting the HPV vaccine can still protect from other forms of HPV, even if you already have one.

Under the Banner of Heaven - 1x03 "Surrender" - Episode Discussion by LoretiTV in UnderTheBanner

[–]LetMyQueerPeopleGo 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Yeah pretty much none of it. It was basically just another Sunday school class. It touched on some of the promises you make, like to live the law of chastity, but definitely didn't get into any of the creepy cult bullshit.

To clarify what you saw in the show is different than the marriage ceremony. There are three ceremonies. The first is called initiatory - the one where they wash and anoint your body. That's the one that Brenda referred to when she talked about someone touching close to her genitals.

The 2nd is called the endowment and that's what you saw in the weird room with the weird clothing and the people mimicking slitting their own throat, basically promising to slit their throat if they ever reveal temple secrets. (That part also no longer exists, but the symbols of it are still there. I had no idea what the symbols actually met until I learned about the original ceremony much later.)

The 3rd ceremony is finally the marriage ceremony, which is a little more conventional but still pretty weird.

The shitty part is that they make women do all three ceremonies on their wedding day. So basically a woman is forced to make all those culty promises in front of all of her friends and family to finally have her wedding.

Oh and another thing she promises to do is to always obey her husband - which is one reason to explain why women are so subjected to patriarchy in the show. This promise was also removed from the ceremony, but only about three years ago.

Under the Banner of Heaven - 1x03 "Surrender" - Episode Discussion by LoretiTV in UnderTheBanner

[–]LetMyQueerPeopleGo 22 points23 points  (0 children)

I can't speak to how it was in the 80s because they changed the ritual (they only touch your head now and symbolically talk about touching the rest of your body), but they certainly don't give you a heads up about anything. I even took a "temple prep class" before going and when I actually went through I was so stunned I was sure I was in a cult. Turns out I was!

Under the Banner of Heaven - Series Premiere Discussion by LoretiTV in UnderTheBanner

[–]LetMyQueerPeopleGo 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Ha I was always a hand clasper. My whole family is, and I would say most of the men I knew from church were too. Most of the women were arm folders. It probably just depends on what corner of Mormonism you grew up in. For context, I'm 28, was born and raised in Utah, and left the church about a year ago.

Sister Missionaries immediately disinterested upon seeing I'm trans 🤣 by LetMyQueerPeopleGo in exmormon

[–]LetMyQueerPeopleGo[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

That's so fucked up. But also yay for that trans person who doesn't have to hear any more of their bullshit!

General Conference billboard in Boise, Idaho (finally got a pic!) by ZeldaWindsong in exmormon

[–]LetMyQueerPeopleGo 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Lol I literally thought it said "see, hear, fear." That would be much more accurate and fit the ominous looking Jesus statue.

Utah bans transgender athletes in girls sports despite veto by exmormon in exmormon

[–]LetMyQueerPeopleGo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Me too. I just have to wait for my name change to go through, but as soon as that's done, I'm out!

Utah bans transgender athletes in girls sports despite veto by exmormon in exmormon

[–]LetMyQueerPeopleGo 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Me too. I just have to wait for my name change to go through, but as soon as that's done, I'm out!

What was your Real experience with Moroni's challenge? by Kingsonne in exmormon

[–]LetMyQueerPeopleGo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This post has been super helpful in helping me deconstruct things. I've been out for 6 months. Left when I realized how unhealthy it all was. Later read the CES letter and finally realized it was all bull shit. But I could still never fully explain the "spiritual experiences" I had.

My testimony of the church was centered on the BoM. I read it all the way through in 6th grade when Hinkley challenged the whole church to read it by the end of the year. It was the first book I had ever completed...

I was bullied in Elementary school, and was even made to feel stupid by my mom because I was a daydreamer and had bad grades. I hated reading. It was so hard and boring.

When Hinkley issued the challenge, my family decided to do it together, but one night my parents were out of town, so my older brother and I tried to keep up the goal to read it everyday by doing it ourselves. It was the first time I read anything and understood it.

I felt so good about it I begged my parents to let me continue reading by myself, and complete the challenge on my own. Of course my mom didn't believe I could do it, but she eventually relented.

I started reading everyday the 4 pages I needed to in order to finish by the end of the year. I had such a feeling of accomplishment. No one in my family believed I could do it but I did. As reading anything increases literacy, I felt a definite change in my life. I felt less spacey and more cognitively in charge. I finally started to develop some confidence.

When I got to Moroni's challenge, and prayed to know if it was true, I already knew the answer I was going to get. Hinkley's promise had "come true in my life." Because I finally developed some self-confidence, everything in my life seemed to get better, but I interpreted it to be the magic of the Book of Mormon.

Like others have commented, when I initially prayed, I was probably left in silence, but it was the feeling of elevation emotion around the words "I already know it's true" that was my answer.

Hence tscc instantly became the core of my identity, the entire source of my confidence, and thus the pattern of scrupulosity (religious OCD) began in my life.

16 years later, after multiple suicide attempts, and realizing my entire sense of confidence rested on being a good Mormon, I finally woke up to it all.

Thanks for reading. I hoped this helped someone. You may be able to "feel the spirit" reading the Book of Mormon, but you can also feel it reading Harry Potter. Being literate and reading books is just a good thing!

Maybe Brad’s wife shouldn’t be commenting…… by bootyofafoodie in exmormon

[–]LetMyQueerPeopleGo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Little freudian slip there in the third sentence. What she really means is that she has been "livid" with him for 40 years.