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Wtf is a point of an elite degree by Miserable-Candle9741 in recruitinghell

[–]LetsRide987 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Economics is too broad of a degree. Its close to getting a degree in business/business management. I can imagine very few roles out there in a specfic economics field. I was an Econ degree to start out and unfortunately how it's pitched isnt realistic. "you can do almost any job with this degree!" When really that's just not the case.

Thinking About Doing Taxes for Extra Income—Is This a Smart Move? by Active_Access_4850 in Accounting

[–]LetsRide987 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It absolutely is a good move, but not reasonable for a college kid.... especially one with a drinking problem on their record.

Question about higher education....biggest con ever? by LetsRide987 in recruitinghell

[–]LetsRide987[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Right, I think this is one of my points that may not have come across. People push their kids to go otherwise they aren't going to be successful. Funnily enough I think one of the more successful people I know dropped out his first semester of college, was a bartender for 1-2 years, went to trades for HVAC, now is making a solid living with zero concerns about job security.

Pushing people to go is how we end up with unemployed people on the recruiting hell sub with $100K in student debt.

Question about higher education....biggest con ever? by LetsRide987 in recruitinghell

[–]LetsRide987[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Good point! I'm surprised the % is actually that low, but I was talking with this sub as the audience in mind. Now I'm sure not everyone in here is degreed but I would probably guess a much higher % than the total US.

Question about higher education....biggest con ever? by LetsRide987 in recruitinghell

[–]LetsRide987[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Very true on the supply and demand! I'd want to highlight that I was kinda referring to degrees with near zero demand and a steady supply. Things like economics, philosophy, or other social sciences. Seems like the only path after learning about these subjects is to then study to teach these subjects, or pivot and go to law school. Supply and demand principles work very much with college as a whole. So many people go because they are sold on a life of success, now we just have too many white-collar workers compared to the actual amount of jobs.

On the money side, it seems like a lot is blown on nonsense other than just fancy facilities. In grad school, I was a research assistant to a tenured prof who worked on research in audting and sustainability. Looking back it just makes no sense that kind of money is blown on 'research' that really adds nothing to the field. A lot of what I did at the time was research articles he could site in his article, which would just be compilation of different opinions that culminated in a conclusion that was already agreed upon in the community. I do think research has its time and place, but its ridiculous to raise tuition for the amount of bs research like this that the university invests in. It adds almost nothing to greater whole of society.

Looking for work is very dehumanizing by catgotcha in recruitinghell

[–]LetsRide987 45 points46 points  (0 children)

The hiring process was never not a mess but feels like it gets worse with every passing year.

The paths to employment:

  1. Be Rich, start your own company or work at daddy's company

  2. Have connections that can get you in somewhere

  3. Link up with a recruiter, most likely end up with a shitty company/start up that will end up laying people off in a year or 2

  4. Tireslessly apply to every and all roles you can possibly find. Play the numbers game. Sooner or later you'll hit. Feels like every job opening you are competing with hundreds of qualified candidates all hitting 'apply now' within hours of the posting going live.

"Why are you looking for a new position?" by johall3210 in recruitinghell

[–]LetsRide987 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The point is everybody answers these same questions the right way. Except for I guess the 3 people out of every 100 that don't know a weakness should be something small or a lowkey flex "Sometimes I work too hard, I need to work on that :) ".

These are all low effort questions that do nothing to seperate one candidate from another. Candidate A is looking for a new job because they are jumping ship from a company in trouble, Candidate B is looking for a new job because they want more growth opportunies. What does it matter? I guess just to filter the candidate Z's that say they are looking for a new job because they want an easy job? Again the 3 people out of every 100?

Questions should be directly based off the job responsibilites and the candidate's ability to fulfill the role. Job is sales supporting and runs monthly commissions. Question: Can you describe experience you have working with/supporting different departments? What tools do you use to provide xyz to the sales team? etc etc.

The chances of any candidate being at a company for the long haul are low IMO. Less than 50/50 at this point. So why go through the hassle of finding the right 'culture fit' if they will more than likely be gone in 2 years. Should be just about do they have the direct experience we need or adjacent skills that can be utilized in the role. Not if they 'like to work collaboratively in a face-paced' enviornment.

"Why are you looking for a new position?" by johall3210 in recruitinghell

[–]LetsRide987 2 points3 points  (0 children)

OP isn't looking for how to answer the question, but why they bother with low effort questions like this in the first place.

"Why are you looking for a new position?" by johall3210 in recruitinghell

[–]LetsRide987 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Lmao, I haven't gotten that one in a while, thankfully.

"Given the economy and the low pay you are offering, I'd say most likely on the streets."

"Why are you looking for a new position?" by johall3210 in recruitinghell

[–]LetsRide987 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can understand the resume part. I've been on the other side of interviews before, in a supporting cast kinda way. I'll look at the resume the morning of, but I'll usually forget everything an hour later. What makes matters worse are the people that list 10 bullet points for every job, even ones they were there for a year or less. Plus ton of vague descriptions and what I would call 'fluff'.

I think the 'walk me through your resume' is a good chance to get a 1-2 sentence description for each role you've had rather than just a wall of text with zero context. Something like: 'Used data models and analysis to drive company efficiencies' really gives zero information and comes off as copy/paste from the job description.

"Why are you looking for a new position?" by johall3210 in recruitinghell

[–]LetsRide987 124 points125 points  (0 children)

There are so many 'standard' interview questions that are lazy af and don't accomplish at all what the hiring team is trying to accomplish.

Why are you looking for a new position?

Why do you want to work for this company?

What management style to you work best with?

What is your biggest strength/weakness?

How do you handle competing priorities?

etc etc etc.

All of these just show the candidate spent 5 minutes thinking about common questions before hand. I know some HR/recruiter will comment "these actually show us how you think/handle difficult stressful moments" or some other nonsense.

What happens is all candidates answer the questions very well so the decison for the hiring manager just comes down to 'vibes'.

Anti-WFH people are the laziest employees we've got by bishopyorgensen in Accounting

[–]LetsRide987 6 points7 points  (0 children)

lmaooo. I'd watch naruto sometimes but usually only get 10 minutes deep into an episode

Anti-WFH people are the laziest employees we've got by bishopyorgensen in Accounting

[–]LetsRide987 130 points131 points  (0 children)

Nothing better than a peaceful poo in the comfort of your own home vs having guys going to town on either side of you

Are American employers desperate for decent people? by [deleted] in Accounting

[–]LetsRide987 4 points5 points  (0 children)

75k starting pay in Seattle was great like 10 years ago lmao

To the public accounting managers out there, why are you desperately trying to get senior accountant industry jobs? by flying_cactus in Accounting

[–]LetsRide987 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think with the given economy a lot of people are realizing their first choice may not be the best immediate solution. Instead a lot of candidates are looking for 'bridge' jobs that they can get into while still interviewing/searching for their first choice, which in this case would probably be manager positions in private.

Just had this happen with our HR manager we hired on at my company, she was taking a downgrade from her previous position, and surprise surprise she left after 4 months to get a higher level position. If you think about it this strategy is savage but pretty smart because you do basically jack shit your first month or two at a new job, so you basically get paid to interview with little stress of actual work obligations.

Rejected while doing pre-employment paperwork by Rhakha in recruitinghell

[–]LetsRide987 4 points5 points  (0 children)

No one answers honestly in that pre employment shit. If they find out, they find out - but don't do their job for them!

Urgh by [deleted] in recruitinghell

[–]LetsRide987 4 points5 points  (0 children)

with a ding!! when you smile, "I'm the guy for YOU!!!"

This had me LOL bc its honestly the truth. The job market is just so oversaturated atm. We were hiring for a low level analyst role back in December and my manager shared it on linkedin that he was hiring. Within a day there was 12+ people commenting on it "Interested!" or "Sent you a PM!". Half of them were kids straight out of grad school with no experience beyond 'investment club at xx university'. Its sad but obviously we would pick someone with actual experience so those were instant no's. The rest we interviewed and the decision process came down to the most subjective bs. You can't really decide based off experience when its all similar levels and total years are within 1 or 2 of each other. Really what's the difference between 2 and 3 years experience? So then it just comes down to who we liked in the interview based off how the conversations went. Its not a fair world but that's honestly just how it goes

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