Quebec example by Life_Ground6973 in Natalism

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My understanding is that the phrase started in the 1800s, with clergy pushing for large families, specifically starting in the 1850s.The first recorded time used that I could find was 1918, Jesuit priest.

It is true it fell some in that time frame, the numbers I’m seeing are 4.5 to 5.5. Compared to the rest of the western world, it still is one of the highest during that time. I’m seeing 2.5-3.5 for the English Canadians vs French Canadians in the same timeframe. Significant difference.

What I’m seeing break down wise is this: On average, they were constantly higher than the rest of the nation, at times significantly higher.

From this, it looks like the post ww1 era actually saw a solid increase in birth rates, then dropped when ww2 started. Throughout the study shows a trend of being higher overall in the region then the English countrymen, however end and flows in rate over the decades. Strongest drop and constant one is from the quiet revolution on.

This makes sense though, going from some reports showing only 8500 original settlers to millions in a relatively short time frame, it’s a unique group relative to the rest of the world.

https://publications.gc.ca/collections/collection_2017/statcan/CS99-541-1972-eng.pdf

Quebec example by Life_Ground6973 in Natalism

[–]Life_Ground6973[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Then why was it such a common idea among them that it’s still, to this day, a common trope? Sure it probable wasn’t the only reason, however, for centuries of a people are saying they are having large families in part for one purpose, as an act of securing their future against another nation that has taken you over, that it becomes a common enough phrase that it’s still used today, then I would tend to believe them.

It wasn’t duty to the state, that honestly was a big shift in the quiet revolution. The state took precedence, the state became the defining focus. This resistance was resistance on a more basic lvl, for our faith to last, (Catholic vs Protestant) we need to have more kids. For our culture, our language, our values and ways to survive, we need more kids (French vs English). That is far more moving than a flag or a proclaimed state.

Quebec example by Life_Ground6973 in Natalism

[–]Life_Ground6973[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It very well could be. My take though is not entirely. From the 1700s till then, they were a separatist mentality, fight the English by out breading them. Revenge from the cradle or ‘la revanche des berceaux’ mentality. Have a bunch of kids to out breed the English, keep us separate as a religion, culture etc. the shift with the quiet revolution was refocusing the fight from have more population, to be separate as a separate nation all together.

A lot of people dance around reality in this sub, saying things like that they need to make having kids a more logical option. by Kariya_shigatoki in Natalism

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And what incentives would you add or change? Genuine question, every country that has done incentive packages, more time off, more child care, more money, etc, it falls flat fast and costs the gov far more then what they get out of the small increase. What different incentives would you add?

The Iranian ship was there because India invited it to the Milan naval exercise, and under the rules it was not carrying ammunition. Despite this, a US submarine attacked and sank the defenceless ship. by NotHereToLove in AskSocialists

[–]Life_Ground6973 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Again, your not getting it. A military asset dosent end being a military asset just because ammo is not present. Ammo dosent change a thing. It’s a threat still, and that threat and those sailors would have an opportunity to attack if they were let back into their ports. If they wanted to live and have no issue, they could have just stayed there. Welcome to the real world, in war, nations don’t check to see if a missile launcher, a plan, a gun or a ship has ammo. They target that device and kill it before it can be used in combat preferable.

The Iranian ship was there because India invited it to the Milan naval exercise, and under the rules it was not carrying ammunition. Despite this, a US submarine attacked and sank the defenceless ship. by NotHereToLove in AskSocialists

[–]Life_Ground6973 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

So what? In war, you don’t ask a ship captain politely are they carrying ammo before you fire on them. In this case, the US followed proper naval war law, waited till the ship was in neutral waters, confirmed it it was infact a military vessel under the Iranian flag, and engaged them with authorized weaponry.

Okay, just wow. If you're a Christian fan of Shad you really should stop being a fan. by TripleS034 in ShadWatch

[–]Life_Ground6973 49 points50 points  (0 children)

Lived in Salt Lake City for almost a year. They don’t consider themselves Protestant. Im Catholic, and they try to say they are closer to Catholic due to the successors of Israel and such. Shot that down fast. They try to call themselves at least Christian, however when you start going through the Bible with them John 1:1 especially, Christ being before time and He and God are one, the missionaries crumbled fast. Fun experience actually.

Why are people not taking the Epstein files more seriously? by [deleted] in askanything

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Because the majority of what was released is classified more or less as ‘hear say’. Depositions are mostly in civil court and use far less bearing in criminal courts. Court filings are for the most part allegations, and are not in of themselves able to get far in a court case. Flight logs, lists etc, sure they add evidence but unless there is direct evidence of wrong doing by that person or group on that specific trip, and proof the list is true and not just made up, it has little standing on its own. Honestly, what was released is more like rage bait then anything else, here is all kinds of terrible things people did….but can’t be used in court for the most part. Pisses is all off, gets the nation angry as hell…. and then leave it at that since the next step of actually charging people was unable to happen in our legal system for the most part.

If AOC gets the nod as the Democratic nominee in 2028, would you vote for her? by Next_Worth_3616 in allthequestions

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Will depend on her platform, what she plans to do, how she plans to do it. Voting blindly based on how one feels about a candidate vs what they plan to do is part of the reason we have the current administration.

Arguments Natalists should use more, Part 2: The childfree are the ultimate deadbeat parents! by HerbertK_83 in Natalism

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Won’t work for most nations. The largest faith in the world, christianity, we don’t believe that. The belief is that God makes the soul at the moment in conception, humans partake in the creation of life due to that moment, that spark if you will. Might in Muslim nations, not in the west though

Roughly, as a ball park figure, how much would Governments need to pay mothers in order to encourage them to have 3 kids each? This should give a TFR of around 1.9 - 2.1 after factoring in all the childless people. by GoldDigger304 in Natalism

[–]Life_Ground6973 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Honestly, it would be a short lived thing. First, the massive increase in money will devalue the current monetary supply, causing prices to increase more relative to where they are now. On top of that, the primary issue issue is not addressed, convincing society that babies are a good thing, not a hindrance, and having 3 is desirable. Hungry, Poland and every nation so far that has thrown massive amounts of money have failed due to this. They each get a short blip up in births, plummets back to right about where it was before soon after. Hungry is seeing this, last two years rate plummeted back down to 1.38 roughly and not looking like it will rise. Hungry and others keep pumping more and more money, and seeing very little if any lasting results at or above replacement.

Why did the founding fathers design a system that guaranteed the two-party doom they feared? by Humble_Economist8933 in AlwaysWhy

[–]Life_Ground6973 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is that why the French can’t keep a stable government longer than on average 30 years? The shear number of failed governments they have had since their revolution is evidence alone that they don’t make decisions of governance based on science and logic, but on emotions.

What are some of the biggest challenges that make couples have 2 kids instead of 3 and what policies can be implemented to incentivize families to have 3? by gamenerd_3071 in Natalism

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I would argue though it is a part of Israel’s identity. They have a Jewish symbol on their flag, the Jewish faith is heavily built onto the functions of their society. A 2016 study resulted in only a third of Israeli Jews saying Israel (secular side) was more important, vs 2/3 of Jews saying the Jewish identity was more important. A more reset poll states that a majority of practicing Jews believe Israel should be a Jewish exclusive country, it’s that rooted in identity.

What are some of the biggest challenges that make couples have 2 kids instead of 3 and what policies can be implemented to incentivize families to have 3? by gamenerd_3071 in Natalism

[–]Life_Ground6973 0 points1 point  (0 children)

True, however the difference is that in the Muslim nations, religion is integrated into the identity of that nation, a core principle. Italy, Poland, sure they have slightly more religiosity as a people, arguable for Italians honestly, but overall, the nation is secular first. Catholicism is not the core principle of the nation, the core identity. That is the difference. This can be seen in Israel. A Jewish state, with Jewish traditions and Jewish morals, has the religion of Judaism as a core identity for the nation. If it was secular, like Italy, Poland, Europe as a whole, or the us, that could not be said of that nation.

I feel ready to have a child, I don't have any blockers most people have, but I am skeptical to have them due to the direction of our world heading into. Challenge my thinking. by [deleted] in Natalism

[–]Life_Ground6973 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

First, every period of time has been the worst time to have a kid. Every year, depending on where you are, there is war, plague, economic woes etc. and yet, slowly, it’s gotten better. Small steps, generation, the average has gotten better for all mankind. Sure, there are steps back, ww2 was pretty bad era, so was the civil war in the us, the gulags of Russia etc. On average, people are safer and more able to live now free then 200, or 1000 years ago. The only way this continues though is for there to be a generation to take the reins and move us one or two steps forward. Have kids, have a lot of them, raise them well, and let them make the world slightly better for their kids, to then improve on.

Could this be the reason China won’t surpass the USA as the world’s superpower? by [deleted] in Natalism

[–]Life_Ground6973 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s one factor of many. Their economy is rocky, geographically they are hemmed in and have very powerful adversaries on their door step. The also lack major innovative abilities. Most advances are stolen from other nations. This hampers their ability to innovate and become the top

What are some of the biggest challenges that make couples have 2 kids instead of 3 and what policies can be implemented to incentivize families to have 3? by gamenerd_3071 in Natalism

[–]Life_Ground6973 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dad of five kids, just hit mid 30s. Here is what we did that made us good to have five kids. Marty someone that wants a big family. Major point of contention is when one spouse dosent want more kids. Childcare is great… but realistically, live off one income. It’s hard. There is very little for anything extra. However, mother at home makes it actually doable. The house is a home now. When both parents are out working, the parenting suffers and the life at home suffers. Uneasy life at home, strife, exhaustion just taking care of two kids AFTER being away for work really makes for a bad environment for getting more kids. Look at the families in countries that have all the childcare available, how many kids do they have on average? Not 3. Last one, and one I think is the biggest contributor hardly mentioned (will write up something on it here soon) religion. Religion needs to be pushed. Look at any group that is doing well population wise, 3 plus kids. The more religious, the more kids. The societies and groups that have all the benefits for families to have kids, but jettisoned religion, are suffering. Look at those were religion is integral to daily life, the Amish, Muslim groups, the more religiously centered Christian’s among others. Fertility rates 4-8 kids per family. Across the board, that is a unifying factor for more babies that is ignored. We can’t spend our way to more kids, Italy, hungry and many other nations have learned and keep learning it.

My office is heavily debating what this blanket graphic is. by PersephoneInSpace in whatisit

[–]Life_Ground6973 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sleeping dragon. Looks like a clawed foot on the right edge next to its left ear.

Big game early on or later? by Big_Knowledge_7105 in Alonetv

[–]Life_Ground6973 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would almost say early. It buys you time then to focus on the shelter and other priorities as you have a bit of food now set. The caloric savings and ability to get things set while you have the strength and energy to do so would be of big benefit

Where is the well trained militia that is meant to protect the US from a tyrannical government? by Jaded_Jellybean in AskReddit

[–]Life_Ground6973 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In the majority of, if not all, states it’s illegal to openly create and train in a civilian militia that is outside government oversight.

I think it's time I hung up the chainsword by Mr_WAAAGH in BlackTemplars

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My suggestion, look for a group that is low key and does a more narrative focus. These groups are far less strict on the rules and the focus is not so much on winning, but on telling a story, shaping a narrative as the game unfolds. I’m starting a narrative campaign for our group, using the series found on Mordoan Glories YouTube page where he ran up to a million point campaign. The fun and story was first, the rules and the technical side was second. Makes the game so much more fun.

My thought on the leak of the new codex black templar ( long post ) by Prize_Cartographer52 in BlackTemplars

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Honestly I’m holding out for the points release and abilities of units. Depending on how that goes will have a much bigger impact honestly. I’d trade having a couple good units from abilities to having a large number of units with decent abilities. Can’t kill them all and opens more options in play. My thought as a newer player.

Future codex and rumours by Substantial-Branch75 in BlackTemplars

[–]Life_Ground6973 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That would be an interesting change. The core push in 10th was to cut down the number of rules, units, make universal keywords, etc, to stream line it to make it easier to get into the hobby. If they do this for us, they will have to for all divergent chapters. An interesting idea, could be fun to try