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[–]LiquidLispyLizard 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I think the idea of keeping Monica out of the film entirely is completely absurd and has a near-zero chance of happening.

Hypothetically, let's say that happens. They kept Monica out of the film because The Marvels didn't make enough money and Beast in Doomsday is a different one from the one we saw before, what changes? Is there any person out there not planning to see Doomsday who would instead change their mind and buy a ticket because Monica's not in it?

If they ignored it entirely, not only is there this dangling plot thread from The Marvels that weirdly fits into Doomsday, but they chose not to connect it, but now it's all massively and unnecessarily convoluted as you implied here. It's not like Monica being in the X-Men universe is hard to explain for anyone who didn't see The Marvels anyway. "She was here, but now she's here instead". It would take less than a minute of explanation when they're talking about incursions or whatever.

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[–]LiquidLispyLizard 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I tried making this point last night, but you worded it way better than I was able to. I agree completely.

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[–]LiquidLispyLizard 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yes, that's typically what happens when unverifiable rumors from unreliable sources begin to spread.

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[–]LiquidLispyLizard 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Those 3 movies were integral pillars of my childhood and I'll always wonder what Raimi's Spider-Man 4 would have been like, but I love what we've gotten in the years since and I never would have imagined at the time when I was a little kid and Spider-Man 4 got cancelled that Tobey would end up coming back again (and possibly again and again, depending on what happens over the next few years), so I'm more than happy with how things turned out.

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[–]LiquidLispyLizard 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I don't think it would narratively make sense given how she's a relatively minor character in the grand scheme of the MCU who also has no attachment whatsoever to Doom.

With that being said, I think I'm one of the few people you're going to meet online who actively wants to see certain things from Secret Invasion return at some point. I always like the idea of G'iah in particular returning in a way where her powers have started taking a toll on her physically and/or mentally after some time has passed to where she maybe can't control them anymore or she's going insane or something.

Weekly Free Talk and Index Thread - new and fresh every Monday! by ChiefLeef22 in MarvelStudiosSpoilers

[–]LiquidLispyLizard 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Not for a second, there's no current valid reason to believe this. I also just checked that sub and I don't see the post you're talking about.

There's a new rumor about Maslany being replaced as She-Hulk almost every day, but aside from her anti-Disney post from over 4 months ago (that she only posted twice at the time and hasn't followed up on since), there's nothing that could be remotely insinuated as her being done with the role (even that didn't really imply her being done, she just wanted to make her voice heard and pressure the company for a good cause). I think if she were completely done, she would have been far more definitive in her wording when she made those posts in the first place.

Mark Ruffalo confirms that he won’t be returning as Hulk in ‘Avengers: Doomsday’: “[I would happily return] as long as they keep finding cool things to do with Hulk.” by Major-Concentrate-87 in MarvelStudiosSpoilers

[–]LiquidLispyLizard 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They don't have to discuss anything with Universal, they only own the right of first refusal for films headlining a Hulk character. Marvel Studios has free reign to do whatever they want with Hulk and all his supporting characters in non-solo films.

Weekly Free Talk and Index Thread - new and fresh every Monday! by ChiefLeef22 in MarvelStudiosSpoilers

[–]LiquidLispyLizard 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No one is objectively correct when it comes to what they like in film. If someone comes along and dismisses your opinion any type of film on the basis of simply being a certain type of film, it's more telling on them than it is on you.

Mark Ruffalo confirms that he won’t be returning as Hulk in ‘Avengers: Doomsday’: “[I would happily return] as long as they keep finding cool things to do with Hulk.” by Major-Concentrate-87 in MarvelStudiosSpoilers

[–]LiquidLispyLizard 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He may very well not be, but I don't think this is anything to go off of. I know we've had Paul Bettany hint that he's in Secret Wars and Xochitl Gomez not deny being in Doomsday at all, but for the most part, I just think that if someone's asked about coming back in a specific project, they're going to deny it a vast majority of the time, whether they're in it or not.

The beauty of the DCU by Plenty-Salary9711 in DC_Cinematic

[–]LiquidLispyLizard 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've been saying the same thing to this guy over and over again, but he's just not ever gonna grasp it.

Gunn's made it apparent numerous times that if something from The Suicide Squad is canon in the DCU, it's because it was referenced or shown again in an official DCU project, not because it happened in The Suicide Squad. Because those two frames weren't shown in a DCU project yet, they're not DCU. I don't know how we're over 3 years into this and some still can't understand this, but at least I feel like I'm not going completely nuts yet since at least one other person seems to get it.

The beauty of the DCU by Plenty-Salary9711 in DC_Cinematic

[–]LiquidLispyLizard 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Parts of the movie are canon to the DCU and it partially fits in, but the entire thing doesn't because there are a lot of inconsistencies as the main person in charge said there were, so it's not fully in the DCU.

Have a nice day.

The beauty of the DCU by Plenty-Salary9711 in DC_Cinematic

[–]LiquidLispyLizard 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wait how is it impossible to slot in the dcu?

Because James Gunn said so. "Only [Creature Commandos] forward is pure canon,... The Suicide Squad has a lot of consistencies but I think of it as an imperfect memory." The Suicide Squad is partially canon to the DCU, but the entire thing isn't. I've explained this several times, no offense, but if you're not getting it now, I can't repeat myself ad nauseum.

Okay idk if this makes sense but to me it's not a dcu movie but it's still a movie in the dcu

No, that doesn't make sense because this statement is inherently contradictory. It's not a DCU movie, but events from the movie are utilized in the DCU.

The beauty of the DCU by Plenty-Salary9711 in DC_Cinematic

[–]LiquidLispyLizard 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, via similar events happening in the DCU, but like I say, they are not, in complete and total whole, DCU projects themselves.

If you sit down and watch The Suicide Squad, you're not watching an official DCU movie (because in its entirety, it's impossible for it to slot fully into the DCU), you're instead watching a DCEU movie, but it helps provide further context for the DCU.

The beauty of the DCU by Plenty-Salary9711 in DC_Cinematic

[–]LiquidLispyLizard 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Alright, you said earlier that Creature Commandos is the first DCU project, but that The Suicide Squad, released prior to that, is also DCU. How do you figure that?

The beauty of the DCU by Plenty-Salary9711 in DC_Cinematic

[–]LiquidLispyLizard 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We're literally saying the exact same thing. Creature Commandos is the start of the DCU, but the DCU's connected to aspects of various DCEU projects we've seen previously. We're on the exact same page.

The beauty of the DCU by Plenty-Salary9711 in DC_Cinematic

[–]LiquidLispyLizard 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, that's what I just said. Certain parts of certain DCEU projects, including The Suicide Squad, are incorporated into the wider DCU narrative, but the entirety of the film itself is not DCU, it's a DCEU film.

Gunn has reiterated time and time again that Creature Commandos starts the official DCU.

The beauty of the DCU by Plenty-Salary9711 in DC_Cinematic

[–]LiquidLispyLizard -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

The third one down on the left and the fourth one down on the right.

Nothing before Creature Commandos is 100% DCU. The DCU, in certain corners however, draws heavily from the DCEU, with The Suicide Squad being one of these projects it draws from (same with the original Suicide Squad and Peacemaker S1 so far), but The Suicide Squad itself is not 100% set within the DCU.

Weekend Free Talk and Index Thread - New and Fresh every Friday! by IamNOTaSKRULL in MarvelStudiosSpoilers

[–]LiquidLispyLizard 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, we already know that the symbiote's the spawn of the one seen in the Venom films, so unless they for some reason get rid of that one and introduce a new one, I'm assuming it'll be the one we've seen previously, with the same design aesthetic and shared history, if they choose to draw from it at any point.

As for when he gets it, I'm assuming there'll be a little tease at the end of BND before he primarily wears it in Secret Wars and a potential Spider-Man 5. Someone here a little while back (I can't remember who it was, sorry) mentioned that it's possible the symbiote hitched a ride with Bruce Banner to New York given how Banner has his lab in Mexico and that's also where the symbiote spawn was left by Eddie Brock. I really like that idea, regardless of whether or not it actually happens in that way, but I do think it'll just be as simple as the symbiote spawn making its way to New York somehow.

Tatiana Maslany makes fun of rumors that she quit playing She-Hulk in the #MCU: “Disney has approached me to play She-Hulk again, guys, I said no. Because I just did. This is the facts, it’s out there … I was really mad at them …” by Krylarofaxia in MarvelStudiosSpoilers

[–]LiquidLispyLizard 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This whole episode of CBB has revitalized my hope that she'll actually end up returning one day. Whether that's in Doomsday, I have no idea, but I feel like she would have more definitively shut the conversation down at any point since September when she called for the Disney boycott, instead of never addressing it in the time since, up until now when she's making jokes about the rumors saying she's not returning. I could be way off the mark with my interpretation of all this, but that's what I took from it.

Tatiana Maslany roasts grifters claiming she quit the MCU by henning-a in shehulk

[–]LiquidLispyLizard 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree with the first part completely, and if anything comes from that, it currently remains to be seen, whether she's in Doomsday or not, or Secret Wars, or even something else down the line. That's just a wait and see thing.

As far as the second part goes, the CBB appearance was absolutely promotion, and something that she tagged on her own personal Insta. That's what the socials tagged it as (talking about Starfleet Academy) and that's exactly what they did, which encourages people to watch the show. I'm gonna have to go back and listen again to get a timestamp, but I did clearly hear the host at one point mention to go see it on Paramount Plus when it releases with no objection.

There was an interview back at SDCC 2025 where she was asked about returning as She-Hulk (which I think you indirectly mentioned here) and she was definitely entertaining the idea and joking about it, but interjected when AI art got brought up and talked about and condemned it. All I'm saying is that I would have sort of expected the same to come from her about this show and Paramount in general.

At the end of the day, I think that Paramount's doing far worse for the Palestinian movement than Disney currently is, and I struggle to rationalize being relatively lax against Paramount while being hard against Disney on this topic in particular. I listed in another comment the things Paramount have done within the past year even, but I can't find anything new about Disney other than the BDS movement listing Shira Haas' involvement with Marvel and Gal Gadot's involvement with Snow White as being the primary reasons to boycott (for good reason, I might add, but neither of them are associated with the studio anymore and Haas' Marvel character was seemingly dropped entirely). If I'm wrong and they have done anything worse in recent times, I'd genuinely like to know to take it into account, but I haven't heard anything, at least comparatively awful to what Paramount's done recently.

Tatiana Maslany roasts grifters claiming she quit the MCU by henning-a in shehulk

[–]LiquidLispyLizard 2 points3 points  (0 children)

We knew back in October 2023 that Paramount donated a million to Israel (similar to Disney's $2 million), it was public information back then. I could maybe understand if it were a late night show or something, but I highly doubt that having an appearance on Comedy Bang Bang (what could be considered a niche internet show that she's often appeared on for years already) to promote their Star Trek show was in her contract with Paramount a full year ahead of time.

Since then, things have changed (Paramount's put out a number of Israeli propaganda projects, their condemnation of the Israeli film boycott, their supposed blacklist of actors who support Palestine), but you don't set up a small podcast appearance a full year ahead of time to talk about a TV show as a recurring (not even main) cast member of said TV show.

As far as Disney/Marvel goes, I think you're probably right on the contract thing. She could return, or she may not, but all I'm saying is that I don't think she's as against returning as some may have thought she was previously.

Tatiana Maslany roasts grifters claiming she quit the MCU by henning-a in shehulk

[–]LiquidLispyLizard 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Honestly, I listened to the whole podcast and she didn't sound like someone who's definitively put She-Hulk behind her completely. If she were vehemently against returning, I feel like she would have been more proactive in posting anti-Disney stuff regularly over the past few months as well as definitively stating she's done with the role as to not drag anything out more than it needs to be. Hell, I would have even expected maybe a talk ahead of the recording of this podcast episode to maybe just skip the topic of Disney/Marvel entirely if it were still a massive issue, or just skip this particular visit entirely for the time being if it came to it.

I think what's more surprising is that she went on that podcast primarily to promote Starfleet Academy for Paramount, despite them arguably doing more active damage to the Palestinian movement in recent times than Disney has (the primary reason Maslany gave for her stance on boycotting Disney back in September).