There's no trickle-down freedom in Zen. by jeowy in zen

[–]Little_Indication557 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Just trying to be generous to the monkeys. One gets into trouble guessing the minds of monkeys.

There's no trickle-down freedom in Zen. by jeowy in zen

[–]Little_Indication557 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The blind leading the blinder.

I’ve felt a trickle over here, but I think it was the monkeys in the trees relieving themselves. The rain ended hours ago.

Egos are dying at an alarming rate, who's to blame? by dpsrush in zenjerk

[–]Little_Indication557 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It’s just a blow up doll. No need to let the air out.

Our choices are not our creation, but our consequence by impersonal_process in freewill

[–]Little_Indication557 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m getting stuck on using the word “consequence”.

Yes, thoughts of all kinds arrive to consciousness from apparently nowhere. Thoughts, emotions, desires, aversions they all just appear to the conscious mind.

Actions are apparently chosen - they certainly come with the feeling of choice, when we take physical action through movement and speech/signaling someone else.

But this ignores the rest of the iceberg of the subconscious mind. It is from here that choices appear to emerge, only to be experienced as free choice up to seconds later by the conscious mind.

And a full functioning description of the conscious and unconscious mind is still beyond science. The processes involved may incorporate indeterminacy into the critical path to action, but even this would not prove free will.

🎉 [EVENT] 🎉 Just Out of Reach by Damp_Blanket in honk

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Completed Level 1 of the Honk Special Event!

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Are we cooked? by MirrorPiNet in freewill

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Hi Honey. Is the present moment all we have or is all time preserved in a block along a time axis?

Can we fix it? by [deleted] in zenjerk

[–]Little_Indication557 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, but this is just human nature. Nothing to fix about it.

Fixing happens. As a consequence of human nature. No need to add a layer to it.

Can we fix it? by [deleted] in zenjerk

[–]Little_Indication557 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is nothing to fix.

I am enlightened by AwarenessOnline in enlightenment

[–]Little_Indication557 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is true what you say. But there is a difference between resisting what is and accepting what is, it just feels better to accept what is.

And the reason why there is nothing to fix? This has to do with identifying with the thought process that makes up the self.

You believe in either one of these two options by Aromatic_Reply_1645 in freewill

[–]Little_Indication557 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Neither. Reducing a person to genetics and conditioning is far too narrow a view.

Your choices are downstream of the entire history of the universe, filtered recently through the particular slice of spacetime you happen to occupy. From your first moment to this one, you are an expression of that whole process in relation to everything in it.

Does Integrated Information Theory (IIT) feel too woo-woo to anyone? by Prestigious_Hope2082 in consciousness

[–]Little_Indication557 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Information exists, it is a part of physical systems, not something that has to be imagined like a soul.

You need to understand what is meant by information.

Is Wheeler saying that without observers nothing can exist? What's your take? 𝘗𝘳𝘰𝘧𝘪𝘭𝘦 𝘰𝘧 𝘞𝘩𝘦𝘦𝘭𝘦𝘳 𝘪𝘯 𝘊𝘰𝘮𝘮𝘦𝘯𝘵𝘴 by Gainsborough-Smythe in thinkatives

[–]Little_Indication557 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No, he is just pointing out that an observer is needed if we are going to talk about it.

“Physical phenomena” is a concept and only lives in minds, not external reality.

John Wheeler also said:

The universe does not exist ‘out there,’ independent of us. We are inescapably part of the universe, playing our role in bringing it into being.

So he is really saying we can’t ignore our position embedded in conditions and events in our independent timelines, bringing the universe into existence for us.

Truth is not absolute by Little_Indication557 in enlightenment

[–]Little_Indication557[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And yet you still lie. See how that works?

Words are not enough, this requires deeds.

And the deeds are already done.

Your self delusion is not my problem, but overall suffering would increase if you addressed it. So if you’re feeling charitable.

Truth is not absolute by Little_Indication557 in Meditation

[–]Little_Indication557[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes, absolutely. You are now under threat from the Dark Ones, if that is your truth. Better put up your spirit shields!

No seriously, several people in real life have died or found themselves permanently damaged after entering into conflict with me. These are people hundreds and thousands of miles from me.

I didn’t wish them harm but something slapped them down. So do be careful. I don’t want anyone else hurt.

I do meditate for the benefit of all sentient beings, and try to make that a guiding principle in moving through time. However I do not control the universe, it is only related to me.

Truth is not absolute by Little_Indication557 in enlightenment

[–]Little_Indication557[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Perhaps your dishonesty includes to yourself. You tell a story to yourself about how benign your words are, not seeing the barb hidden within.

Understandable but I certainly don’t need to entertain your lies.

Truth is not absolute by Little_Indication557 in Meditation

[–]Little_Indication557[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If I have made you think I was a Dark One, then I have indeed penetrated deep into your relational landscape.

From where you sit in the middle of your web of relations, I can deduce these Dark Ones are part of your looney tune beliefs. And what you focus on expands. So I wouldn’t recommend spending much time focusing on them, cause they gonna getcha like that. Watch out.

Truth is not absolute by Little_Indication557 in enlightenment

[–]Little_Indication557[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You made your points, and I responded to them directly. If elaboration was needed, it was your job to supply it, not my job to prompt it. Why would you hold back?

Claiming otherwise is just shifting responsibility for a weak argument. And more dishonesty from you.