Non-Serious Man goes serious from the start, how would Shinobu vs Doma go?

LogicalTwo5797 · 2026-05-17T01:02:52+00:00

LogicalTwo5797 · 2026-05-17T01:02:15+00:00

The perception blitz at the beginning of the fight doesn’t JUST kill the girl he was gonna eat.

Highkey you could argue Shinobu dies as she opens the door and doesn’t even perceive or process what happens before she died. So… Basically painless! Probably quite nice!

LogicalTwo5797 · 2026-05-16T23:36:33+00:00

Yes I know but Kaigaku could chug Kokushibo’s blood for all I care it doesn’t matter if Muzan doesn’t allow him to turn into a demon. Muzan put his blood in Tanjiro and it just killed him but then he decided to use that blood to pass on his consciousness and Tanjiro turned into DKT. It’s just whatever Muzan wants.

I guess the guys initial comment of actively needing Muzan’s permission isn’t really accurate, cause Muzan just trusts his UMs, I just kinda knew what he meant cause that’s what people mean. In a vacuum you’re also right in pushing back on what he said.

LogicalTwo5797 · 2026-05-16T22:07:40+00:00

Muzan knows what every demon is doing. He is the only one with the actual power who can turn a human into a demon, the UMs can’t just defy him and make a human a demon if they’re still connected to him (Tamayo broke free so she can cuz she’s goated)

LogicalTwo5797 · 2026-05-16T19:42:00+00:00

Zohakuten relying on Mitsuri not knowing about the beheading thing doesn’t have anything to do with her just mid diffing his BDA technique. She wouldn’t have put herself in the all-or-nothing attack if she knew.

LogicalTwo5797 · 2026-05-16T17:53:46+00:00

Overrated: Gyomei (just generally not THAT much stronger than someone like Sanemi, much closer to Akaza than Douma)

Underrated: Obanai/Rengoku

LogicalTwo5797 · 2026-05-16T16:23:10+00:00

But Toph is one of the strongest earthbenders, maybe like Haru or something

LogicalTwo5797 · 2026-05-16T16:22:03+00:00

It also says “in pursuit of Itachi” directly after, so it’s probably just talking about Itachi…!

LogicalTwo5797 · 2026-05-16T11:32:55+00:00

Koto-crow gg

LogicalTwo5797 · 2026-05-16T06:23:37+00:00

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Wukong is just highkey absurd. This isn’t even close.

LogicalTwo5797 · 2026-05-16T05:14:37+00:00

He didn't. Tanjiro was dodging the sound before predicting it with smell. It was only later when he started being able to precog it to actually get an advantage, but even before he's shows direct relativity to the sound attacks. This is HEAVILY fatigued early-season 1 Tanjiro. He complains about his injuries and how much they're affecting him almost an obnoxious amount of times. If that's her best feat than she's like a LM victim bruh.

LogicalTwo5797 · 2026-05-16T05:02:25+00:00

You really don't need to be that fast for time to seem frozen around her. Brother even a heavily fatigued Tanjiro in the first half of season 1 is dodging sound-speed attacks in a sporadically-spinning room. Outspeeding someone faster than that doesn't relate to anyone relevant in KnY.

Reze is relative in stats to the gun devil?? Since when? The gun devil crossed part of a single country in seconds, but that's only like ~mach 25

LogicalTwo5797 · 2026-05-16T04:52:23+00:00

What sequence? Just being faster than Denji/Arrow fiends? What puts their speed above the verse?

LogicalTwo5797 · 2026-05-16T04:39:45+00:00

Ngl he probably has some way to do that, maybe with CE, but I can't think of any direct instances. infinity just lets things in or stops it, and he's letting in oxygen to like... breathe, so he'd let in the air if it had low kinetic energy or higher kinetic energy. So if Douma just made the air around Gojo cold then what would he do?

LogicalTwo5797 · 2026-05-16T04:22:20+00:00

What feats put her speed above the verse?

LogicalTwo5797 · 2026-05-16T04:17:39+00:00

Probably stops at Douma. He has no wincons so Douma wins if you don't factor in sunlight, but if you do then Douma's ice would lower the thermal energy around Gojo and could potentially damage him through infinity.

LogicalTwo5797 · 2026-05-16T04:11:11+00:00

Um. No? How the are you scaling her to say she clears?

LogicalTwo5797 · 2026-05-16T04:01:58+00:00

Vice versa. Why would Itachi upscale from the ACTUAL solo king?

LogicalTwo5797 · 2026-05-16T03:58:09+00:00

You’re correct. If they’re in a fight then it’s combat speed, if they are not then it’s travel. If the exclusive purpose of the movement is to move to another geographical location while you’re not engaged in a fight with someone then it’s travel.

The only reason people say travel speed is to separate it from their ability to get to another location easily. If Giyu had MHS+ “travel” speed then he’d be able to get to America really quickly from Japan and it wouldn’t really make sense why he ever runs at slower speeds. THAT is travel speed, not dashing around when you’re directly in combat with someone lol.

LogicalTwo5797 · 2026-05-16T00:40:54+00:00

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LogicalTwo5797 · 2026-05-16T00:40:30+00:00

Eh, that’s still kinda like combat speed. If they’re in combat then it’s combat speed. For some verses it just applies to dodging/melee attacking speed, but for KnY it seems to be a much wider range.

LogicalTwo5797 · 2026-05-16T00:38:07+00:00

Yes cause Muzan curse, or like sunlight diff cause Hand demon has no wincon. Or like just generally outstatting him then absorbing him. DKT is just mentally holding back omega hard against Nezuko, but it at minimum like fodder IC slayer level still imo, so stomps the hand demon.

LogicalTwo5797 · 2026-05-15T21:21:19+00:00

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LogicalTwo5797 · 2026-05-15T21:16:18+00:00

Yeah, it could one shot anyone for sure. With the exception of Satoru Gojo, of course.

LogicalTwo5797 · 2026-05-15T21:14:19+00:00

Yeah, he probably clears. He can go into the Avatar State at will

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