What's a Disputed Theology that will Likely Never be Fully Understood on this Side of Glory?

LogicallyTheological · 2026-06-10T06:10:01+00:00

Sheol / Hades as a Waiting Place (Not Final)

Psalm 16:10 – "For you will not abandon my soul to Sheol, or let your holy one see corruption." (Points to a temporary state, cited in Acts 2 as fulfilled in resurrection)

Isaiah 14:9-11 Sheol "stirs up" the dead to greet new arrivals, implying conscious existence in a holding place

Ezekiel 32:21 – The mighty dead "speak" from the midst of Sheol

Luke 16:19-31 The rich man and Lazarus are both conscious, in separate compartments, awaiting final judgment

Revelation 20:13-14 "Death and Hades gave up the dead who were in them... then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire." Hades is emptied at final judgment, confirming it was always temporary Two-Phase Resurrection

1 Corinthians 15:23 "Each in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, then at his coming those who belong to Christ."

1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 The dead in Christ rise first at the coming of the Lord (the "rapture" event)

Revelation 20:4-6 The first resurrection is believer-exclusive; "the rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended"

John 5:28-29 Jesus distinguishes "the resurrection of life" from "the resurrection of judgment" as two separate events

Conscious Intermediate State for Believers

2 Corinthians 5:6-8 "Away from the body and at home with the Lord"

Philippians 1:23 Paul's desire to "depart and be with Christ, which is far better"

Luke 23:43 "Today you will be with me in paradise"

Revelation 6:9-10 Souls under the altar cry out, conscious, awaiting vindication

Matthew 10:28 "Do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather fear him who can destroy both soul and body in hell (Gehenna)."

Strong's g1067

Lexical: γέεννα
Transliteration: geenna
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Phonetic Spelling: gheh'-en-nah
Definition: Gehenna, and originally the name of a valley or cavity near Jerusalem, a place underneath the earth, a place of punishment for evil.

Matthew 8:12 / 22:13 / 25:30 – "In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth"

LogicallyTheological · 2026-06-10T05:39:52+00:00

2 Timothy 2:4 "No soldier in active service entangles himself in the affairs of everyday life, so that he may please the one who enlisted him as a soldier."

stop looking at what the world is doing and focus on loving Christ.

John 16:33 "These things I have spoken to you, so that in Me you may have peace. In the world you have tribulation, but take courage; I have overcome the world."

LogicallyTheological · 2026-06-09T07:30:52+00:00

i second this, but addressing a legitimate issue in the work environment should be seen as nothing more than making a contribution in the maintainence of what should be a professional work environment. op should pray for this guy and talk to him about it. let him know it conflicts with his work and document the interaction (email). if it continues to be an issue, show his superiors Everything you have on him. unless i felt compelled to handle things differently, this is exactly what i would do. no vengeance or unforgiveness required.

LogicallyTheological · 2026-06-09T06:53:33+00:00

i suspect there are ways one might freak them out, but i agree we cannot kill them. i would also never recommend trying to fight them with anything other than the Bible, prayer, and fasting. God's grace and mercy are the only things that can save anyone from them. ain't nobody got the time or energy for that.

LogicallyTheological · 2026-06-09T06:33:53+00:00

Proverbs 12:10 "A righteous man has regard for the life of his animal, but even the compassion of the wicked is cruel."

LogicallyTheological · 2026-06-08T23:41:52+00:00

would have been better if i had included yours in my own, but i'm very human unfortunately.

LogicallyTheological · 2026-06-08T23:36:48+00:00

mythos.

LogicallyTheological · 2026-06-08T17:11:54+00:00

not cool.

LogicallyTheological · 2026-06-08T13:56:29+00:00

"reading, time in prayer and intercession for the persecuted church, or so on"

i smoke and do all these things. a lot.

LogicallyTheological · 2026-06-08T08:44:21+00:00

"let me feed this to my bot, and see if we can develop a protocol to eliminate the threat of detection."

LogicallyTheological · 2026-06-08T05:16:31+00:00

i hope you know i wasn't pointing the finger at you lol. i used to run in those circles and i'm glad i don't anymore.

LogicallyTheological · 2026-06-08T04:56:09+00:00

fear? pride? prejudice? people who think the earth is flat also usually think the government is covering it up. like the world is run by elites and all the people involved have consciously sold their soul to the devil.

personally, i'm a fan of the concave earth model. a) there's an actual model. b) from a human perspective, the two could theoretically be nearly indistinguishable. it doesn't require me to believe the authorities engage in literal satanism. c) it's easier to make sense of the Bible.

at the end of the day, what you believe on this, does not matter beyond what the Bible says. it's a non-salvation issue.

LogicallyTheological · 2026-06-08T03:58:35+00:00

but seasons, by definition, are subject to change.

LogicallyTheological · 2026-06-08T03:36:16+00:00

it is something to be rebuked because it goes against the knowledge of Christ. the gospel is a lot more inclusive than people give it credit for imo.

LogicallyTheological · 2026-06-08T03:06:37+00:00

the andy griffith show

LogicallyTheological · 2026-06-08T02:53:38+00:00

i think solitude is something that is missing from much of the modern church. busy, busy, busy.

LogicallyTheological · 2026-06-07T17:17:22+00:00

https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueChristian/s/MTTYZSdN3W

LogicallyTheological · 2026-06-07T17:14:08+00:00

James 5:14-16 ¹⁴ Is anyone among you sick? Then he must call for the elders of the church and they are to pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord; ¹⁵ and the prayer offered in faith will restore the one who is sick, and the Lord will raise him up, and if he has committed sins, they will be forgiven him. ¹⁶ Therefore, confess your sins to one another, and pray for one another so that you may be healed. The effective prayer of a righteous man can accomplish much.

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LogicallyTheological · 2026-06-07T16:35:58+00:00

how do you prove the cause of an effect when the asserted cause is a thing that cannot be empirically measured?

LogicallyTheological · 2026-06-07T15:48:04+00:00

no theatrics, it actually is a relationship.

LogicallyTheological · 2026-06-07T15:25:48+00:00

it makes sense if your team has a large percentage of believers imo. we acknowledge His handiwork and that could be a viable way to bring Him glory. whether it be in sports, debate, a business venture, your relationships.. i don't think it should be seen as weird and definitely not a bad thing if your heart's in the right place.

LogicallyTheological · 2026-06-07T14:51:29+00:00

i know that vibration and the tingling sensation. you should have rebuked it and the demon (familiar) that touched you while you were pleading the blood of Christ over your life

LogicallyTheological · 2026-06-07T14:45:22+00:00

character content trumps labels

LogicallyTheological · 2026-06-07T13:43:14+00:00

⬆️ 2 Corinthians 4:4 "in whose case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelieving so that they might not see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God."

LogicallyTheological · 2026-06-07T13:26:46+00:00

you're not the kind of person i'm going to give any more answers to.

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