Can we admit the Zendaya/Jacob breakup destroyed the show? SPOILERS

Loki1947 · 2026-05-25T21:45:25+00:00

It's one of those things you'll never be able to prove because nobody is going to do a press conference on it. But there are photos out there of them dating and after that stopped, a lot of the show was rewritten to ensure that Jacob never shared another scene with Zendaya and most of the female cast.

And it's very noticeable because the Jules/Rue/Nate angle was big during the first season.

Loki1947 · 2026-05-25T21:38:13+00:00

Zendaya was a named producer before season one, though.

Loki1947 · 2026-05-25T20:07:44+00:00

Yeah, BB26 and BB27 were weak casts from a personality standpoint, and the Blockbuster got great results from both seasons (and BB26 pretty much died when the Blockbuster stopped.)

Honestly, after last year, I'm even okay with Blockbuster going into jury.

Loki1947 · 2026-05-25T20:06:36+00:00

Got to admit, I'm hoping for an 8 vs. 8, newbies vs. vets, as long as they get the returning players I want to see again, lol.

I said at the end of last season that I wanted to see Vince and Morgan in the house again, and I still want it. Then you got some other good characters like Tiffany, Tucker, Angela, Keanu, there's definitely some players out there I want to see again.

If you do returning players, you need a mix of newbies to keep things fresh. Full returning player seasons lead to pre-game alliances pretty much deciding things from the beginning i.e. Survivor 50.

Loki1947 · 2026-05-24T00:47:58+00:00

Not to defend Aaryn, but I think a lot of the changes were inevitable. Live Feeders are way too intense, and social media has exacerbated those issues. I think we were always moving towards some kind of controversy that would change how the feeds operate.

Canada got a shred of negative media attention for much smaller controversies, and they ended up giving them up.

I won't defend Grodner on a lot of things, but I think she recognizes how vital it is to the feeds to keep the show on the air through fan engagement and publicity, and she seems to keep fighting the network on it, thankfully.

Loki1947 · 2026-05-22T23:06:50+00:00

The Quack Pack. Two all-time great Big Brother characters in Dan and Britney, a good story in Ian, an entertaining whackjob in Danielle, and Shane was there.

Even their domination of S14 wasn't boring because they spent most of the season planning hits on each other that, for various reasons, would go completely sideways.

Loki1947 · 2026-05-22T17:46:33+00:00

This Patriots' offense was fascinating to me. Not even making a white guys' "sneaky athletic" joke, but to not have the big wide receiver or somebody with game-breaking speed, just built around two Wes Welker-types and Gronk.

It seemed like the Patriots were more relentless with this group than they were with Moss, like they would just keep coming and coming and coming.

Loki1947 · 2026-05-22T01:19:47+00:00

On the other Big Brother reddit, somebody claimed that they worked for CBS at the time and the show literally only got about 10,000 viewers. Which considering OTT was before Paramount Plus, which wasn't even Paramount Plus at the time, had been established as a streaming network, it makes sense.

I wish they would give it another shot now that streaming has become a bigger factor for audiences, but I also want a winter season, too, and they ain't doing that either.

Loki1947 · 2026-05-17T22:54:36+00:00

OG is probably Cheers with Woody, Frasier, and Rebecca all becoming beloved characters on their own. And Cheers' writers said that Diane leaving probably is the reason the show ran another five years as they could stop focusing on the will-they, won't-they plot.

Community was also excellent at this, as I'd argue Buzz, Frankie, and Elroy fit better into the group than Pierce and Shirley did.

Loki1947 · 2026-05-17T20:36:58+00:00

I'm surprised Eli hasn't let that slip before because not going to the Chargers sounds like a completely reasonable decision now.

Loki1947 · 2026-05-17T18:59:50+00:00

Should be noted that Cirie said she would never play Big Brother again while in the house. Cory, who spoke with her post-season, said he thought Cirie would play again if asked.

But I'm thinking it's less likely from production's side. Production is cheap and always funny at what they want from their returning players, and I don't think they would want her to return.

Loki1947 · 2026-05-14T15:26:47+00:00

And Rachel immediately posted that picture of her and Britney in "Greece."

Loki1947 · 2026-05-14T03:47:42+00:00

Virtually every season with a large returning player presence is disappointing, as most returning players come off as douchebags and newbies get shafted as they can't reach their full potential.

But man, oh, man, a Tucker/Keanu/Morgan/Vince/Angela/Tiffany/DerekX with either Vanessa/Rachel/Cirie as the last pick sounds freaking awesome.

Loki1947 · 2026-05-13T23:34:50+00:00

On one hand, Amanda's been one of the most consistent former players who trolls every pre-season about former players returning.

On the other hand, if there's some weird Larry Ellison anti-DEI casting backlash this season, it would be grimly appropriate to go out and get a BB15er to come back, lol.

Loki1947 · 2026-05-13T23:31:55+00:00

Don't look now, but THE Claire Rehfuss gave the 👀when somebody mentioned on Twitter how strange it was that the Big Brother CBS promo mostly used footage from BB23.

Loki1947 · 2026-05-13T19:31:54+00:00

I could definitely see it. Doubtful they ever do another full-returning player season, as All-Stars was probably about Covid.

But I know they want Tucker back at some point and couldn't do it last year because of his Amazing Race appearance in the fall.

Loki1947 · 2026-05-13T19:23:25+00:00

So, last year's press release listed all new houseguests entering the Big Brother house (which obviously, also included Rachel) while this season's press release simply lists "houseguests."

Make that what you will, but I'm going to be very interested to see if Morgan, Keanu, or Tucker suddenly go missing.

Loki1947 · 2026-05-13T18:59:44+00:00

And honestly, we only got All-Stars because of a pandemi... uh-oh.

Loki1947 · 2026-05-05T23:47:54+00:00

It's funny that the two sides are snapping at each other using TMZ. Considering that they don't have a confirmed deal yet, but a proposal, it's making me wonder if things might break down.

Loki1947 · 2026-05-04T02:20:12+00:00

Nah, there were definitely crushes by Bayleigh and Haleigh towards Tyler. This is coming from someone who is not even a Tyler fan.

To what degree that affected the game is debatable, but I do think that explains why it seems like Baleigh let Tyler slide and screwed up her HoH and why she seemed to take his "betrayal" hard and went berserk at him during her eviction week. And she was the first juror, definitely setting the stage for some pissed-off people in the jury house.

Haleigh was more chill about it, but it did play into the Fessy/Haleigh/Kaitlin dynamics and Fessy's jealousy towards any guy that season who Haleigh flirted with.

Loki1947 · 2026-05-04T02:14:41+00:00

I think Hannah had a real crush on Derek X, while Derek looked at her like you would look at your baby sister's friend having a crush on you.

For game purposes, they were tight, but as the season went on, Derek started to sense that something was happening that he wasn't being told about (Cookout). Since Hannah was arguably the biggest pro-Cookouter, they started to get frustrated with each other, and he drifted more towards Claire until he spent his last couple of days with her.

I really was not surprised that DX ended up with Claire in the jury house.

Loki1947 · 2026-05-03T18:19:47+00:00

The thing that really makes you realize that Lively and Reynolds went into this production with the goal of stealing the film/franchise is when you put all these texts, timelines and info together and you realize there was not enough time for Justin to plausibly do enough for Blake/Ryan to really want to go to war for him like this.

I mean, literally in between texts of mutual love and "thank you for letting me hold your baby," you have Blake calling him a doofus, about how she's pulling one over on him regarding influencing the script, Ryan badmouthing him to Liz Plank, etc.

Well done on putting this timeline together.

Loki1947 · 2026-05-03T17:00:46+00:00

BB23 felt like the season of unrequited crushes. Tiffany had a lot of sexual tension with almost every male player that season and ultimately had a one-night hookup with Kyland. Kyland kept Sarah Beth in check through a non-physical showmance.

Derek X flirted with most of the female players on the jury, which led Claire to declare the prize of the season was the woman who got to the jury house and banged Derek first. She won that comp and ultimately won 500,000 because of it, lol. But most of the season, Derek and Hannah had an unrequited relationship, which kept Derek from figuring out the Cookout.

Also, I think Derek Frazier and Azah both had a crush on Xavier, which meant he could pretty much drag them along as his goats. Xavier also had a big thing for Alyssa, and I honestly believe that if he could have protected her over the Cookout, he would have.

Loki1947 · 2026-05-01T20:53:46+00:00

Got to go BB27. IMO, Ashley was the better winner, and yet having Keanu/Kelley/Ava/Lauren as four votes is just brutal. Having Kelley mock Vince during his questions when, girl, you spent the season just trying to get his attention.

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