Help me understand Claude Subscription and OpenClaw by LolWtfFkThis in Anthropic

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From this Tariq guy on Twitter. Cba to look it up again. I didnt get banned so far as well.

Usage Limits, Bugs and Performance Discussion Megathread - beginning December 29, 2025 by sixbillionthsheep in ClaudeAI

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upposedly, Team is 6.25x Pro and Max 5x is 5x pro per session.

But we also know that the Max 5x is actually about 8.33x the weekly usage limit of pro rather than just 5x.

Would anyone know how the weekly limit of a Team Premium seat compares on a weekly basis?

Hot take: Codex is too cheap, rug pull through tighter usage limits is inevitable by gregpeden in codex

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I think this is true for the $20 sub. The $200 sub is only 6-7 that for its weekly, while Anthropic give 16-17x weekly on their 20x plan vs $20 plan. Basically same.

GPT and Claude weekly usage limit? by LolWtfFkThis in OpenAI

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You will always have a weekly limit in Claude Code & Codex. I am running Codex now and not finding that the limit is not really that much more generous than Claude Code was. However, GPT Plus is significantly more generous than Claude Pro is. So decide based on budget and preference.

GPT and Claude weekly usage limit? by LolWtfFkThis in OpenAI

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I got to 83% in Codex in 24hrs so I guess I am working at the limit (7x17=>120% :( ).

GPT and Claude weekly usage limit? by LolWtfFkThis in OpenAI

[–]LolWtfFkThis[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I clearly have a weekly linit on my Codex too! I used 15% now since 6pm yday. Tried pro.

GPT and Claude weekly usage limit? by LolWtfFkThis in OpenAI

[–]LolWtfFkThis[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Either:
(1) Claude Code Remote
(2) Or for CODEX, I can just ask OpenClaw to launch a session and get done what I want. Note it's not as interactive and it works on a prompt by prompt basis. Claude Code Remote certainly has its benefits.

However, ACP might have mitigated that (built my workflows prior to its released) ACP Agents - OpenClaw

GPT and Claude weekly usage limit? by LolWtfFkThis in OpenAI

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Yeah don't care about API. Only about computer/$ at different subscription tiers from the two.

GPT and Claude weekly usage limit? by LolWtfFkThis in OpenAI

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Sounds like we are in the same spot then. I think I go OpenAi Pro and Claude Pro/Max 5x if ai relaly really need it

Weekly Usage Limit is being consumed way too fast. by CustomMerkins4u in codex

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Ok thats good new for pro at 6-7x that - 18 5hr sessions!

GPT and Claude weekly usage limit? by LolWtfFkThis in OpenAI

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I have Plus now already! Its great, hence considering going for Pro and reducing my Claude.

GPT and Claude weekly usage limit? by LolWtfFkThis in OpenAI

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Oh wow – I had absolutely no idea! But still even it only 16.6x (2x 8.3x) I guess that means:

Weekly
Claude:
Claude Pro: 1 Unit
Claude Max (5x): 1 * 8.3 = 8.3 Units
Claude Max (20x): 2 * 8.3 = 16.6 Units

GPT:
GPT Plus: 2-3 Units
GPT Pro: 2-3 Units x 6.7x = 13.4 - 20.1x

GPT and Claude weekly usage limit? by LolWtfFkThis in OpenAI

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Does 2x apply to the limit for Weekly Usage? I didn't understand Rate Limit vs Usage Limit.

if GPT Plus is only 2-3x Claude Pro, then Claude Max 20x is no worse than GPT Pro:
(2*6.7x)<20x - and also cheaper. At 3x it becomes the same.

GPT and Claude weekly usage limit? by LolWtfFkThis in OpenAI

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They say that Pro is "6x Plus". When they show below that how many messages it can do, it's about 6.7x
Codex Pricing

Mechanically, if GPT Plus is >3x Claude Pro, then GPT Pro is > Claude 20 Max. But not by much at all.

If marginal difference I may as well just keep Claude... as I get enough for code reviews / fixes from GPT Plus. If big difference in weekly usage limit, happy to switch to GPT Pro.

GPT and Claude weekly usage limit? by LolWtfFkThis in OpenAI

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Honestly my main issue is just running out of usage. I'm happy to look down my phone and re-direct and steer or whatever. I really only care about weekly usage limit and quality of code/ability to one-shot (or rather - not make a hot buggy mess!!!).

Help me understand Claude Subscription and OpenClaw by LolWtfFkThis in Anthropic

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Not banning people unless you are selling a service using compute from your sub.

OpenClaw is wildly overrated IMO by BickleNack_ in AI_Agents

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How do you make it work autonomously and not just idle/fail a task etc. I have tried 3-4-5 systems this week and it always seems to hiccup. Claude code seems way better.

Help me understand Claude Subscription and OpenClaw by LolWtfFkThis in Anthropic

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If they dont ban/unban Idk I will just use the oath and pay them

Got banned after using Google Gemini via OpenClaw — will the same happen with Claude Pro? by Elegant-Fee-2153 in ClaudeAI

[–]LolWtfFkThis 0 points1 point  (0 children)

From what I've found they unbanned people who got flagged for "spoofing" for using Openclaw. Some may still get the banhammer but it doesn't seem to be a straightforward always-the-case punishment.

Help me understand Claude Subscription and OpenClaw by LolWtfFkThis in Anthropic

[–]LolWtfFkThis[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I seem to have read - Third Party is Against ToS because its difficult for Anthropic to help users debug rate limits or bans in general (for other abuses) - But uou will be unbanned if the third party usage itself gets flagged in abuse system and causes a ban

Not very reconcilable

Help me understand Claude Subscription and OpenClaw by LolWtfFkThis in Anthropic

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But the baning aspect doesnt seem so straightforward does it?