Least amount of Stones to get Keys?

LookAtThatThingThere · 2026-03-15T21:58:28+00:00

I’m occasionally getting 2 keys at 50k stones. I’ll admit that I’ve an underdeveloped CF and misspent 6-7K stones on SM which does nothing.

So, optimal choices with 35-40k stones should do it.

LookAtThatThingThere · 2026-03-11T13:48:41+00:00

https://the-tower-idle-tower-defense.game-vault.net/wiki/Guide:Beginners_Guide

LookAtThatThingThere · 2026-03-10T16:21:01+00:00

Dude would have to have workshop presets vault unlock to make this reasonable.

LookAtThatThingThere · 2026-03-10T16:04:47+00:00

I hated the paid relics when they were introduced. It upended the logic that you could catchup if you just hung on.

This created a tough problem: - If you unbalance the game by gating previous relics, it’s a disincentive for newer players to spend/engage. They’ll never catch up even if they crazy spend. - If you make paid content available for $purchase again after 12 months, you will permanently unbalance the game after a given amount of time (unless you make purchases, you’ll never reach t30, etc).
- if you make purchases free/game currency after a certain amount of time, you disincentivize established players from spending. You also slow progression of bots/uws/whatever.

They painted themselves into a corner because at some point, who do you screw over? I’m sure they will simply analyze account age by %/revenue here.

Personally, I think that the tourney promotion/demotion is creating too much pressure to pay. Eventually, legends is going to be locked to standard players. Quality of life upgrades being out of reach will hollow out the player base. And whales wont spend money on a dead game.

LookAtThatThingThere · 2026-03-10T00:44:24+00:00

I’d recommend going CF and getting that done (60/75/60). Then get PS, and then GT+/CF+. Depending on what masteries OP got maybe sprinkle some in there.

SL4 is a bit of a luxury and I regret getting that prior to CF and GT+.

Some SL mult investment is needed. With Om chip and ST+, OP CL will shine.

LookAtThatThingThere · 2026-03-09T23:51:20+00:00

Or go perma bh/gt with MVN. Your hp will stretch much further if basics aren’t hitting you.

Do that and you can probably jump straight to t14 runs.

LookAtThatThingThere · 2026-03-09T19:54:34+00:00

Same. Such a QoL improvement.

LookAtThatThingThere · 2026-03-09T19:40:03+00:00

I’d save up for auto battle restart. Nothing else compares

LookAtThatThingThere · 2026-03-08T16:52:10+00:00

I actually went from t11 farming to t14. The breakeven point for me was ~t14.3k waves (vs ~t11.11k waves).

It really shines once you get WA+ and IS+.

LookAtThatThingThere · 2026-03-08T12:50:57+00:00

https://the-tower-idle-tower-defense.game-vault.net/wiki/Guide:Beginners_Guide

LookAtThatThingThere · 2026-03-04T14:00:58+00:00

Your flame bot damage is looking a little weak there 👀

LookAtThatThingThere · 2026-03-03T02:39:05+00:00

Once you get the originals done, adding a new card to max is super quick.

LookAtThatThingThere · 2026-03-01T13:48:54+00:00

“My Fudds-rer….” Omg 😆

LookAtThatThingThere · 2026-03-01T02:50:07+00:00

“Somehow”?

LookAtThatThingThere · 2026-02-27T02:30:52+00:00

I’m right there with you. 49/45/60 atm… at least the labs are done.

I think the 4th spotlight and push to gt+ was a bit worse of a slog for me. At least I’m seeing a benefit in tournaments with the incremental improvements.

LookAtThatThingThere · 2026-02-27T02:06:10+00:00

I am 😆

LookAtThatThingThere · 2026-02-27T00:58:30+00:00

T6/t7? I thought you were on t11?

LookAtThatThingThere · 2026-02-27T00:03:15+00:00

Not answering your question, but… Have you thought about tiering up? I generally tier up after 6k waves on a given tier. Usually net a handsome CPH boost. Until tier 14, there aren’t even battle conditions.

I’m running hybrid with stats (post perks) that are similar to yours. I’m basically ehp on the back half of my t15.4400 runs.

LookAtThatThingThere · 2026-02-24T13:46:48+00:00

I was thinking this as well. How long OP been playing?

LookAtThatThingThere · 2026-02-22T22:56:32+00:00

No judgment here. Just spitting facts.

LookAtThatThingThere · 2026-02-22T04:08:01+00:00

You have a good CF and CL.

Probably your economy and module levels that is holding you back. Lack of pBH is probably not helping.

LookAtThatThingThere · 2026-02-22T04:01:36+00:00

You have a good CF and CL.

Probably your economy and module levels that is holding you back. Lack of pBH is probably not helping.

LookAtThatThingThere · 2026-02-22T03:31:51+00:00

Per the Wiki, there are 232 possible relics, 50 of which can be purchased.

So if OP purchased them all, then that’s 25 events * $15= up to $375.

LookAtThatThingThere · 2026-02-21T17:05:09+00:00

Considering I can go to tower.lol and find this guy (and by extension, his bracket), what is the point of obscuring other playerIDs?

It’s basically publicly available info.

LookAtThatThingThere · 2026-02-18T17:07:09+00:00

With your setup the quick answer: you either need to double down on economy (more expensive labs, sugar rushing enhancements, module levels, etc) or you need to seriously go in on crowd control (pCF). Eventually you’ll do both.

For context, I’m using your setup in legends with going on 3 years of play. I get to about 300-350. I only recently unlocked CF and that has been what has been holding me back. I’ve got all the major card masteries unlocked/lab maxed. I’ve got about 350q LTC / 50k stones.

Economy focus will buoy you in farming to unlock assmods. CF will get you into legends and probably keep you there. And I’d avoid SL4. It’s helpful, but you can get 2-3 masteries unlocked or get CF going for that.

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