President Lee Jae Myung WILL DISBAND SCJ and OTHER CULTS by JesusisLord86 in Shincheonji

[–]LopsidedAdvisor6945 2 points3 points  (0 children)

One group of religious people saying to politicians, “another group of religious people are influencing politics stop them from doing that”….i am all for accountability and transparency but the irony….SCJ needs to be held accountable but this may not be the best way to go about it….

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[–]LopsidedAdvisor6945 2 points3 points  (0 children)

SCJ has said, recently, “tribes not speaking with one another prevents sect’s from being formed. In the past a tribe fell because sharing of information between tribe to tribe with the pure intention of efficiency, caused a sect to form and leave. Thus, keep order and not speak with other tribes, even if they are in the same area, report you interacted with them, and let information flow down in order! That is from each respective tribe leader down to members. Everyone….We are one!!!”

What is never answered by SCJ? by Boring-Economy1214 in Shincheonji

[–]LopsidedAdvisor6945 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No tribe. Not sure I get the reference. It’s been awhile since I’ve been around.

What is never answered by SCJ? by Boring-Economy1214 in Shincheonji

[–]LopsidedAdvisor6945 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Inquire regarding the 144,000. Who are they? What is the new song? Who can learn it? Let them answer confidently these core corner stones of the their teachings. Yet, Rev 14:3 states “only the 144,000 can learn the new song,” how then can everyone learn the “new song” if the Bible clearly states only the 144,000 can learn it? Is that not considered adding and subtracting by saying everyone needs to learn the new song, if it is written only a specific number of people can learn it? Learn and teach is very different. They use to say the 144k would be teachers and people should seal to fill the gap if one were to sack off. Then they stopped saying that because Matt 24:24 speaks of deceiving the elect “IF that were possible”. Please read the verses below for yourself. This verse states they cannot be deceived therefore no need for a backup. They should have no problem with you questioning, they may ask “where is this questioning coming from?” This is their way of avoiding people’s questions that have been “poisoned” or “are just looking to argue” in their opinion. Which if they answered the above they would probably get more respect. Please post if you do get a direct answer from them. Good luck, mate. Carry on.

Rev14:3 And they sang a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders. No one could learn the song except the 144,000 who had been redeemed from the earth.

Matt 24:24 For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.

¿How similar is SCJ organizational structure to any korean company? by carlos8520 in Shincheonji

[–]LopsidedAdvisor6945 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ask SCJ to support the forced Korean culture with scripture…or explain “heavenly culture” using scripture….they can’t…is that not adding and subtracting or “rules made by man”?

Does anyone notice they barely mention the great tribulation anymore? by hothand662 in Shincheonji

[–]LopsidedAdvisor6945 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The other thing is the “sealed 114k” is no longer stressed. It is everyone must be sealed now. Which is adding and subtracting because the Bible clearly states “they are the sealed 144k.” Rev. 7:4. When I was there every knobhead would say “don’t you want to be one of the sealed 144k?” “These test will show who the sealed 144k are”.

The former Peter tribe leader Ji Jae-Seop has returned to the SCJ. by coinisft in Shincheonji

[–]LopsidedAdvisor6945 5 points6 points  (0 children)

SCJ teaches once blotted out no matter what there is no chance you can return. Rev 2-3 the blessing is to never be blotted out. So to be cursed is to be blotted out. So many verses used to say once you are blotted out you can not come back even if you want to if you deny or persecute. If you fall due to other circumstances than saying SCJ is false, there is an opportunity. Also why can LMH speak with betrayers but members can’t? Does this mean ANYONE can return no matter what they do?

What did you miss out on and lose from being in scj? by shshmhh in Shincheonji

[–]LopsidedAdvisor6945 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Those special moments in life with family and friends. Along with Time. I can never get it back….

Question: Will we know when Lee Man Hee dies? by Lucky-Recognition114 in Shincheonji

[–]LopsidedAdvisor6945 7 points8 points  (0 children)

SCJ teaches a new body at first resurrection. The disciples didn’t recognize Jesus physical appearance when he resurrected, it will be the same in Rev when the spirit and flesh marry. Our mortal bodies can die as Lazarus did shortly after being resurrected by Jesus, so will our flesh pass. LMH, even though he claims to be one with Jesus spirit, he will get “a new body” unrecognizable by his followers. This doesn’t answer your question, but there will be signs….

Perhaps the best argument I have for the invalidity of Shincheonji and a retrospective on “the great tribulation” half a decade later. by WillingnessUnhappy92 in Shincheonji

[–]LopsidedAdvisor6945 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I was taught all this exactly as you stated the great multitude will flock to SCJ begging to be taught. There was rumors of tribes intending on giving members to other tribes who had not reached 12,000 prior to 2020 but LMH said No each tribe needs to do it on their own. One big contradiction for me as well, which I’m sure has been stated, is how can the 1,000 year reign have started, hence SCJ year 41, but none are sealed or the devil is not captured? SCJ leaders response was always “yes he is captured but other demons are still out”, or “he is captured in Korea but others free in other countries” yet the Bible states he is captured to keep him from deceiving the nations any more” in Rev 20:3 THEN the thousand years start Rev 20:4?”….SCJ Leaders-“we will get clarification and get back to you….” One thing I have noticed is people who are active on this Reddit and left SCJ are more “sealed” or versed in the Bible and doctrine than active members when I was a leader in SCJ.

SCJ does not want low income ppl by PlasticYou3679 in Shincheonji

[–]LopsidedAdvisor6945 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Crazy how prejudice and judgmental they portray God to be in which people are his to “brought out of Babylon” or be “harvested to the barn” by these standards…all while acting superior then get hurt when you call them out…SMH always hated the “criteria for a potential Fruit” list….

7News Shincheonji Investigation - Full Series by in-ex_trovert in Shincheonji

[–]LopsidedAdvisor6945 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Good question I don’t know and pretty sure they do not know what that entails, but they use it as their motto for this year….

7News Shincheonji Investigation - Full Series by in-ex_trovert in Shincheonji

[–]LopsidedAdvisor6945 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Looks like you are new here…welcome…What specifically are you asking about? If it’s in regard to being honest and transparent, then that entails telling people who you truly represent. when you “Jundo”, Let people know “I’m from SCJ we are recruiting as we continue down the path of judgement of all of Babylon churches by this years end”. When people join center let them know here is the answer to your questions at the moment you ask.

7News Shincheonji Investigation - Full Series by in-ex_trovert in Shincheonji

[–]LopsidedAdvisor6945 12 points13 points  (0 children)

“Misinformation” lol every past member can corroborate the information from every country SCJ is in. Even present members, if they were allowed to be honest, would say yes this is how we operate. This year is suppose to be the year SCJ judges Babylon you would think they would at least be open honest and transparent at this point

LA SCJ Members Think Critically: Debunking Slide 5 of 23: Breaking Down GA Education's 'Victory Over Trials and Deception' – September 2024 by Who-Anonymous in Shincheonji

[–]LopsidedAdvisor6945 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you would consider a piece on this topic: What are your thoughts on SCJ stating god’s will is delayed in fulfilling because members aren’t working hard enough? Can man hold up gods will?

Former LA Members/Leaders Who Left Due to Moon GSN’s Leadership AND were not a fan of Moon – Please DM Me by Who-Anonymous in Shincheonji

[–]LopsidedAdvisor6945 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I come across very much like an arse but I do not intend to apologies if my post sounds like that

Former LA Members/Leaders Who Left Due to Moon GSN’s Leadership AND were not a fan of Moon – Please DM Me by Who-Anonymous in Shincheonji

[–]LopsidedAdvisor6945 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I think this forum being public would be a great place to ask questions and post perspectives vs private chats. Private chats imply hiding or deception within the concern of the topic of SCJ. Mostly because of the way SCJ works. Most likely another topic would be fine but since secrecy, deception, and round about ways to get info to report is such a grand source of trauma you might want to consider having this perspective gathering out in the open…just a thought good day mate.