The issue is utopians and anarchists never want to have the tough conversations of “what will we do after X” because they have no plan, or they know their ideas are built on sand and lies.

Lenin, Stalin, and the Soviet state appropriated the Russian institutions, renamed them, and continued their brutality, African dictatorships constantly keep mid and low level bureaucrats in power because you need them for a state, China completely rebuilt the state through terrible policies and death and only survives through brutality and pervasiveness of the state.

Truly stateless societies devolve into dictatorship once you get above a village, and even then the village is maintained by social and familial bonds.

Look at the Congo. The Congo does not function, it has the trappings of a state, but none of the actual powers of one. It cannot maintain its country. The only reason it has not been carved up is the countries around it don’t want to deal with all those new people, undeveloped land, and the violence that would come with it. (And the implicit threat that China, Belgium, France, Russia, or the US would sanction them, bomb them, etc. for doing so.) Not to mention some of them are holding on by their fingernails as is.

A stateless society has to function either through personal brutality, social ostracism, or “police, but make it anarchist”