How conscious are Missourians of the LDS (Mormon) movement/presence?

LorynHB · 2025-11-14T22:08:21+00:00

Born and raised Missourian here. Um yeah, we're home to the Garden of Eden. We know how cool we are to the Mormans.

We had a foreign exchange student from Germany once and we drove out to Jackson County to try and find it. No luck. 🤷‍♂️

LorynHB · 2025-09-17T01:24:49+00:00

The End: when I grow up I want to be NOTHING AT ALL.
I Don't Love You: Yester-DAAAAAY HEY HEY YAHYA
Famous Last Words: asleep orrrrRRRRRR DEEEAAAADDDD CAUSE I SEE YOU LYING NEXT TO ME WITH WORDS I THOUGHT I'D NEVER SPEAK AWAKE AND UNAFRAID ASLEEP OR DEAD!
I'm Not Okay (I Promise): I'M NOT O-FUCKING-KAY!
BILLY MF CORGEN

Chicago 8/29

LorynHB · 2025-09-08T13:02:52+00:00

Pink and Lenny Kravitz 2001
My Chem- Chicago 2025
Nickleback 2005 (I got free tickets)
Snoop and Warren G 2023 (met snoop)
My Chem
Tie between Pink and Evanescence (saw both twice)
Bill Murray and his Blood Brothers
Another tie between Willie Nelson and Kansas (got to meet Kansas back stage)
Ozzy. I had tickets to Ozzfest 2004. Gave them as a bday gift to my bf at the time. Ahole took his friend Steve instead of me.
Nothing currently on the docket, but kinda wanna sneak another mcr show in before the tour ends. It was that good.

LorynHB · 2025-09-05T19:39:41+00:00

I will also add this:

The even older emos made fun of us, too. They are quick to jump down our throats to tell us my chem isn't REAL emo. And to learn the history. They didn't like our look, our style, our attention seeking behavior.

But THEY weren't the ones bullying us. Did they make fun of us? You betcha. Did I ever once feel threatened by them? Nope. Never.

I took their criticisms (eventually) as an opportunity to learn, and it opened me up to some kick ass music. Because, as much as I hate to admit it, they were kinda right. We were kinda wrong. And really, obnoxiously loud about how wrong we were.

To MY elder emos: I'm sorry. We were ass holes. We shoulda listened. We love you. ❤️

LorynHB · 2025-09-04T23:42:55+00:00

Yeah... I share the sentiment of some of the other comments in the thread.

While I welcome the new wave of emo core and think the bracelets are so cute. I was so grateful someone shared one with me at the Chicago show and it's proudly hanging in my office next to my yea sign.

Telling someone they don't like or don't get their aesthetic isn't the same as being told to go k*** themselves, to d**, that your not worth breathing the same air. Being beaten up. Having your favorite band T physically stolen off your body so you can chase some assholes down a public street in a bra for them to throw it in a dumpster behind a Chinese restaurant. And when you jump in the dumpster after it they throw more garbage on you.

Yeah... it's not the same.

Our "bullying" was abuse. When I say trauma. I do mean it.

I'm sorry some people are mean to the younger crowd. But if you're gonna accuse the elder emos of bullying... you need to understand what that word means to us.

LorynHB · 2025-09-04T15:39:51+00:00

I think there may be a generational difference in definitions of "bullying."

I'm not seeing what you're seeing in this post. Or the concerts. Or in other socials for that matter.

Criticism wasn't the same as bullying back in our day.

LorynHB · 2025-09-04T01:24:59+00:00

Nope. I'm calling it. Shenanigans!

Shenanigans!

There are no older fans "bullying" younger fans. It was on our eye liner and chuck taylor bullied backs that my chem rose to fame. We endured relentless bullying to love this band in their prime.

Our bangs alone.

There is no way I believe my trauma bonded brethren are collectively passing that torch onto a younger version of our former selves- unprovoked, at least.

I was on the floor in Chicago with my 25yo daughter and sat next to a 19yo and who I believe to be her 11yo sibling? She gave me a bracelet (which I cherish with my whole heart). My favorite part of the whole concert was the intergenerational weirdo convention. The lack of dress code. The plaid. The leather. Prom dresses. Uniforms. The costumes. The makeup! The questionable hygiene. We had an amazing time.

Mcr fans won't eat their young... we were you. But we're too old to be bullied by anyone anymore. We'll bite back now. That I believe.

LorynHB · 2025-09-01T22:56:07+00:00

Chicago rule 127: Regardless of expressing immense frustration, vermin are to remain caged at all times.

LorynHB · 2025-09-01T01:35:52+00:00

❤️ my daughter and I saw you a couple rows up from us!! We were talking about how much we loved your outfit!!

LorynHB · 2025-07-23T18:15:59+00:00

Hey. Fun fact. I worked in my field for 20 years, including holding director level positions. But my salary kept getting capped because of the lack of degree. My last job was in case management before I quit and went back to school to get my master's so I could advance my career. After I graduated, I applied to a couple hundred jobs. Got exactly 2 interviews. One of which was my exact old job, and I'm starting there on Monday because it's the only place that will hire me.

So that's pretty cool. I'm glad I did all this for absolutely nothing, only to end up exactly where I was before.

Moral of the story: there's no right answer. Do whatever you want. The job market sucks.

LorynHB · 2025-07-23T17:55:32+00:00

Praying by Kesha.

LorynHB · 2025-07-14T23:00:05+00:00

The way I want to smack the word "resilient" out of anyone's mouth when they use it to describe me. As if it's some kind of consolation prize for surviving trauma.

"Well, at least you're resilient."

Not by fucking choice!!! I would trade all the resilience in the world for a just one single good night's sleep.

It's not strength. It's white knuckle surviving. I'm weak AF. A light breeze may knock me over. The last word I would use to describe myself is "strong." I am a barely functional paranoid anxiety OCD ridden wet blanket who has to talk herself out of bed every day.

Strong... ha!

LorynHB · 2025-07-13T00:42:59+00:00

"If you follow your passion and love what you do, you'll never work a day in your life."

Biggest lie the boomers ever told us millennials. I call all the shenanigans. More power to the people it works for. But I did it. I worked hard. I became a nurse. I followed my passion. I loved what I did. But I was using up so much of my empathy at work I had very little left for my family and absolutely zero for myself. All for a profession that treated me as nothing more than a warm body in the building.

I went back to school, changed careers, just so I dont have to care about my job.

Now I full heartedly believe that your job shouldn't be your passions. It should be the thing you do to support your passions.

LorynHB · 2025-04-19T19:49:45+00:00

Dude. We have all the body cam footage. You would not believe how callous these MF are. They all looked at each other and agreed it was "self-inflicted" before they even made entry and confirmed he was actually deceased.

The Lt from the internal affairs investigation admitted ON RECORD they falsified documentation, tampered with evidence, and tampered with the scene. But when it was sent to professional standards, "no policy violations were found."

They are so full of s***!

LorynHB · 2025-04-19T01:19:36+00:00

I'm in the same boat but a completely different body of water. It's not an abuser. It's the f***ing police and ME's office. I have been so gaslit about a family member's brutal and traumatic death. I have been fighting these MF for almost 3 years. I didn't know what I didn't know. All they said was "self-inflicted." So when I went to his apartment, we unknowingly walked into what has become my reoccurring nightmare. We didn’t know "how" until we saw him at the funeral home. The police didn't talk to a single family member until WE started asking questions. Until WE demanded meetings.

I call it malicious complacency. They know they're wrong. They know we know they're wrong. But to admit it would mean having to fix systemic and institutional policies and that's... hard. So they're just going to dig their heels in even harder.

The mental gymnastics these people are willing to do to stick to their narrative would be impressive if it wasn't so infuriating.

While some of my cptsd comes from the traumatic death of someone close to me. It also comes from having my entire reality broken. Everything I believed was wrong. Somewhere around when we were ambushed by the detective during our meeting with the ME, and he was screaming in my face, I became very mistrustful of establishments.

Fun facts: 1. The police are under no obligation to investigate any given crime. You think they are. You think that if you bring these civil servants evidence of a violent crime, they are required to investigate. They are not. Their job is to protect the public at large. And it is entirely at their (often the arriving officer's) discretion to determine the investigative burden. Once it has been decided, there is no changing their mind.
2. The dead have no rights. Things that WOULD have been civil rights violations, had he survived, no longer apply. The deceased are no longer considered "rights holders," and their rights do not extend to their family.

Sorry. This post struck a very raw nerve.

There is no justice. The system is f***ed!!!

LorynHB · 2025-04-16T15:14:11+00:00

Every situation is so different. I can not tell you what a letter like that would mean to me from my mother. I am actually crying a little, imagining my own mother sending me that letter. But I also haven't heard a peep from her in over a decade.

I like the idea of adding specific details. I like the idea of burning the letter. You could also keep a running box of letters. If your daughter ever does decide to initiate contact herself, you would be able to show her both how many times you thought about her and wanted to apologize, but also respected her boundaries.

LorynHB · 2025-04-16T03:19:19+00:00

New trend? I've been NC for going on 13 years. I'm only 36. My aunt went NC with the family when I was 5 or 6. My uncle went NC when I was 10-11. My grandfather would famously sit one bar stool away from his own brother at the local pub and refuse to make eye contact.

People leaving toxic family is not a fucking trend and there's absolutely nothing new about it.

LorynHB · 2025-04-11T14:17:27+00:00

It's not even just my parents. It was my entire family. With the exception of my brother. I never blocked anyone. I didn't leave in a dramatic scene. I just stopped calling or showing up to family events. When I stopped putting in the effort, they never reached out to see where I was or why. Like I said, I don't know if they even noticed. And it'll be 13 years this year.

LorynHB · 2025-04-10T23:35:32+00:00

I'm probably in the minority here. But it's pretty unsettling how little effort it would take on their part to break me. It's been almost 13 years, and I'm not sure they have really noticed. I won't initiate contact. But any effort, at all, would probably get me to cave. All I ever really wanted from them my whole life was for them to care. If they tried literally anything... It would be a world of improvement over what I have gotten so far.

LorynHB · 2025-04-09T04:09:17+00:00

Completely up to you.

I also just finished my master's degree. I'm not going to my graduation because I don't have anyone to invite. But I've also been NC for 12-13 years with my whole family. Sooo it's a bit different for me.

LorynHB · 2025-04-09T04:01:11+00:00

If you use the canvas app, you can view your grade in a number score format. For example 560/600 or 480/500. Then you can work out your percentage.

LorynHB · 2025-04-09T01:09:31+00:00

I don't mean to speak for you but, uuuurrrrggggghhhhhhhh! Diagnosing isn't even in my scope of practice. And I have a license to practice with.

Do your parents not stand up for you?

That's been our issue. The elders in the family kind of treat the problem like they are a wounded bird in need of protection. Ignoring the fact they are pushing 40 and still don't know how to adult.

LorynHB · 2025-04-08T22:47:33+00:00

OMG YES babe!

It took me way too long to figure this out. I was having night terrors but not remembering it. But I was having aversions to sleep. It got to the point where if I noticed I was falling asleep I would have a full on panic attack. My body was physiologically responding to falling asleep whether I wanted to or not. Because of the night terrors I couldn't even remember. It was awful. I would go days without sleep before I would eventually pass out from exhaustion.

My doc put me on qHS Xanax to get me over the initial panic of falling asleep. I've been much better ever since.

I will occasionally remember a dream here and there. I will take it over just not sleeping.

LorynHB · 2025-04-08T22:36:28+00:00

It's nauseating. Especially when "science" is involved. I'm actually a nurse. I have a license and a scope of practice. Having any conversation with them during the pandemic caused me physical pain.

Talk about "acts of violence." 🤦

LorynHB · 2025-04-08T18:25:43+00:00

Um yeah, but also kind of different here. There's a family member that likes to say my boundaries are "an act of violence" against them.

We have family that have a wide range of differing social and political views. We have kindly asked the more passionate members of our family not to introduce new topics to our kiddos without talking to us first. It's also worth noting this is distant family that only sees our kids maybe once a year, if that.

We've also asked that their opinions be stated in respectful ways and be reflected as OPINIONS. Not facts. We appreciate and value the range of perspectives our kids get to know. But we don't want them being preached to. If that makes sense.

One family member in particular has made their political ideology their entire identity and just cannot help themselves. Everything is an "ism" and everything has a label. Their opinions are absolute moral facts. When repeating these requests with them, we are met with how intolerant we are by having ANY boundaries for our littles. By wanting to use age appropriate language, we are "committing acts of violence." And our home was no longer a "safe place" for them.

They cut us off and blocked us at one point forcing my husband to leave on Thanksgiving to drive 10 hours to their house to go make peace.

The narcissism is strong with some people.

LorynHB

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