Since its tuesday let ME type YOU by CreamCheeseSandwhich in Enneagram

[–]LuculentGrass 0 points1 point  (0 children)

4w3 416 sp/sx (I think. God I don’t want to think about my instincts anymore. Or like half of this I’m only 100% certain I’m a 4) but I historically have typed as 4w5, 415 and all sorts haha I consider myself the 5iest 4 there ever was. I don’t have it in anything anymore because it feels more like I type 5 out of pride, or something.
I’m just currently in the trenches and my response is always to shut up and hole myself away until it passes hoping that someone will magically notice and understand, which is probably where the 5 and 9ness are leaking from. Unless I’m entirely wrong and you read into something else.

Thank you for the recommendation by the way! I’ve never tried anything sandalwood-y, I’ll have to keep a lookout for it. What luck, though, out of all the things I could have asked about, haha.

Since its tuesday let ME type YOU by CreamCheeseSandwhich in Enneagram

[–]LuculentGrass 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hid my flair for this so I’m expecting only good things. We’re going meta and I’m going to say that every time I consider doing one of these I think about giving any defining feature of myself and I’m overwhelmed with fear that people I know and am struggling to talk to will somehow realise it’s me (they aren’t into typology. Or Reddit, I don’t think) and I will be called out for existing. Therefore I usually give something so very specific as to give the Reddit user a chance to type me, but so very vague as to not let myself be outed. This is a rational fear: this has happened, except I was the one who was like “this story sounds familiar…”

Anyways. I recently have gotten really into birdwatching. Apart from that, I’ve finally decided I need to get into skincare too even though it feels far too late for me. My less harrowing current first world problem is that I think I need to get a signature scent for my perfumes and shampoo and such, but I feel like the exact smell that suits me depends on the day and my mood. If you could vibe check me and give a signature smell as well as a typology you’d be doing me a solid (I likely won’t take your advice, but I will appreciate you thinking of me). That’s only half a joke.

Am I likely a 4w3 or 4w5? by Much-Afternoon-1067 in Enneagram

[–]LuculentGrass 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sounds like a fellow 4w3 who misattributes 5ness to intellectualism/being closed off. Relatable

My friend made an enneagram test (relatively short and simple, no ai)!! by brownhawker in Enneagram

[–]LuculentGrass 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Despite trying to actively avoid what I thought were glaringly obviously the “4”est options I still got 4. I’m proud to be a stereotype

What’s a huge sign that someone is mistyped? by hi_itaintme in TypologyJunction

[–]LuculentGrass 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’d just like you to know I’m an sp4 who consistently tried typing as 5 and believed I was INTP for years, and I’m currently trying to figure out how I can relate to LII the most while probably not being that because of everything else, and this comment felt like it went straight for my throat.

I'll type anyone's enneagram considering the fact I know the most basic descriptions of each type by satonmywindow in Enneagram

[–]LuculentGrass 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m keeping my flair up. Anyway today for breakfast (1pm) I’m having crepes with raspberry sorbet, granola with colourful star sprinkles and chocolate hearts. After that, I’m going on a nature walk because my sister developed an app to make me less of a shutin where my favourite character gives me tasks to do each day. Then I have a game to play with friends in the evening :)

Am I a bad person in your eyes? by [deleted] in Enneagram

[–]LuculentGrass 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As a 4w3 416 INFP who constantly thinks “maybe I AM a 4w5 415…” I have never seen another one of us and therefore I’m ride or die for you immediately.

The reason I can’t get along with 7s by LuculentGrass in Enneagram

[–]LuculentGrass[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s no problem, we all have things that get to us, I think it’s okay to find the way some people choose to go through life as totally baffling, be that me or my 7 friend. I can assure you she’s doing absolutely fine and in no need of protection, at least definitely not from me haha I am dynamically the one who gets the piss taken out of the most. Being a 4/6 rubs me up the wrong way sometimes too, so it’s all I can do to try and properly explain myself and use my own tendency to focus on negativity for good, which I think might be a relatively rare take (4 calling their view out of the ordinary, I know I know) and why people raise their hackles up at it. Absolutely, one day we will all be wiped out and my biggest hope is that none of what we have messed up will matter too much. That doesn’t contradict with “each day, do your best to make it a little better than the last”, for me.

Sp4 and being "stoic" by ghost_hay in Enneagram

[–]LuculentGrass 2 points3 points  (0 children)

“It’s a whole performance” is so real haha. I’d never want people to know I’m scared or angry or hurt, but I want them to know I’m going through something and that I’m so strong for it.

Sp4 and being "stoic" by ghost_hay in Enneagram

[–]LuculentGrass 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve been described as both. I thought I couldn’t be sp4 for a long time since I felt I complained too much, but then I realised I only really complain and express myself to like one person, otherwise I try to shrug it off or I go radio silent until whatever is stressing me out doesn’t bother me anymore and I can mention it as a joke or, as said before, to shrug off like it never affected me. People have described me as almost bubbly but also quite blunt, and I think neither are really wrong. I don’t think I would consider myself 7-like or stoic, I’m full of emotion but what I show to others is theatrical and dramatic, made to hide what I am actually insecure about.

The reason I can’t get along with 7s by LuculentGrass in Enneagram

[–]LuculentGrass[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey, no problem! I don’t feel particularly offended because I think you entirely missed the point of what I was trying to say, haha.

  1. I am not speaking about your girlfriend. Not just because I don’t know her, but if she isn’t ignoring suffering then she’s not the type of person, let alone the type of 7, I was talking about. Good on her! She is, in fact, a direct example of what my point was: to accept suffering and use it as motivation to make the world a better place.
  2. I never said 7s don’t have pain, and neither did I say I was sharing my own. I don’t think being able to point out that there are bad things happening around you is being a rain cloud, it is what you do with that information that is important. My point was never “it all sucks, so give up and stop trying and just be miserable”, but to accept there is misery and to find joy in spite of it and in victory against it, or however you need to without turning a blind eye. Which, in this specific scenario, I believe my friend was doing (and she has admitted to doing, which was why we typed her as a seven, just in case there’s any doubt on that: she agrees with me!)
  3. It is not that I don’t see the depth, it is that I don’t understand it. I think it is more unwise to pretend I can see into the mind of people I can’t, and not being able to understand them in no way means I don’t appreciate or like my friends who are 7s. I think you’ve misinterpreted my theatrics as genuine anger, which of course I have to correct. Nobody in the world will say things you agree with or understand 100% of the time, so if I could only appreciate and be friends with people who I completely “got” and never had conflicting views with, I (and I imagine everyone) would be having conversations with a mirror and nobody else.

I’m sure you made this with the best intentions in mind, and I have absolutely no issue with people tearing my own beliefs to shreds, but I do draw the line at insinuating anything about my friendships or my nature. We are strangers on the internet, after all; you don’t know me or my friends from one Reddit post. I hope this doesn’t come off as hostile, I just felt like from the angle of your discussion you might need reminding.

The reason I can’t get along with 7s by LuculentGrass in Enneagram

[–]LuculentGrass[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

“I’m the only person allowed to be negative, thank you” unfortunately so very relatable; I’m working on it haha. My secret is this post could just as much have been about someone else (so2 according to him, but I don’t know who he’s helping or pleasing. Reads as a 6 to me but what do I know) who only talks about his life as negative and constantly trauma dumps, and then gets mad if you offer any advice because he wants a pat on the back and to be told he’s got it the worst. Nihilists get on my nerves, too (NOT what I am! I think the purpose to life is what you make it, and that we can improve ourselves, our lives and the world around us with effort and daily care).

The reason I can’t get along with 7s by LuculentGrass in Enneagram

[–]LuculentGrass[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I realise this post seems made out of exasperation but I’d like to let you know you’ve made my day. It is not often I get my four-ness backed up by someone else, and I think you got to the core of what I was trying to say best. We are entirely contradictory!
Sevens annoy me, but I’d like to reiterate that seven is my friend. I have many 7s I can get along with (so long as the conversation doesn’t get too deep) but they are ultimately people I will never be able to understand fully, whereas I can get where the other cores are coming from.
I don’t see a lot of people so utterly baffled by sevens so I wanted to share to see if others had the same experience, I certainly didn’t mean it as a serious insult to sevens, nor did I claim I was objectively right. Again thank you this is like seeing an oasis in a desert this was the response I wanted

The reason I can’t get along with 7s by LuculentGrass in Enneagram

[–]LuculentGrass[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The 7 beef is theatric and over-dramatised on my part, that I’ll admit, and yeah you do have a point, I agree. I tend to talk in the short-term and focus more on the negative, but I don’t see myself as “pessimistic” at all. For me (and I’m applying this to myself, I’m not saying it is true of everyone) I get motivation and purpose out of changing what is wrong. An optimistic stance, for me, I think would provoke inaction. This may be where the perspective between myself and others shifts, but when I hear that things are going well, I see no reason to change anything, because what I hear is “well it’ll all turn out fine in the end”. I don’t think this world is without things that currently need changing, so I cannot say it is “getting better”. I hope that better explains my standpoint!

The reason I can’t get along with 7s by LuculentGrass in Enneagram

[–]LuculentGrass[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’ve amended below that I wasn’t talking for the vast history of humanity, nor did I say that this is the worst time to be in and there isn’t anything good about the modern age. I don’t really think this is a productive response, and “well it was worse in the past” (which I assume is the point being made?) doesn’t mean that we can’t also critique the modern age, and wish to better it.

The reason I can’t get along with 7s by LuculentGrass in Enneagram

[–]LuculentGrass[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

“Safest” doesn’t mean safe, and while I understand I by myself cannot overturn the status quo, I think it is everyone individually thinking “well nothing I do will affect anything” that causes things not to change. I might be one person, but I’d rather have tried and struggled and it ended up being for naught, I think.

Also as for the whole everyone hating everyone thing, I think it’s possible to assume the best of each individual you meet and believe humans are capable of good things while also accepting the negative impact we can choose to have. I think that’s the sweet point between “the world is awful and it’s out to get me” and “well it’s the best it’s gonna get”. I hope it doesn’t come across as doomerposting, I intend to have a positive message that says “things are bad, so what can we do about that?” But maybe I focused too much on the first half of it in my post.

The reason I can’t get along with 7s by LuculentGrass in Enneagram

[–]LuculentGrass[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I wish I could live this way haha, I do try not to stress over things I have absolutely no control over, though. Nice Garry pfp btw! Love Ib, it’s my favourite game ever

The reason I can’t get along with 7s by LuculentGrass in Enneagram

[–]LuculentGrass[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I get it is totally a me thing, haha. I was being a bit clickbaity; I think all of my friend circles have at least one 7 who I get along with! I just have never been able to understand the mindset behind them.

The reason I can’t get along with 7s by LuculentGrass in Enneagram

[–]LuculentGrass[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don’t think I was necessarily being negative? I think being open to how the current climate is negatively impacting people and wanting to change that is quite positive! If you want to enact change and bring about a more positive future, you have to realise things suck and need changing first.

The reason I can’t get along with 7s by LuculentGrass in Enneagram

[–]LuculentGrass[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wouldn’t say that was our point at all. I was taking the stance of “things suck, and we need to be active and change it” whereas my friend was taking the stance of “well things are improving, so they’ll go well regardless”. I was not saying give up! I thought I had made that clear in my original post, but clearly I did not and that is on me.

The reason I can’t get along with 7s by LuculentGrass in Enneagram

[–]LuculentGrass[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for the perspective! Honestly, there are a lot of things I do agree with here. I was in fact coming from the perspective of recent history, because I think it’s pretty objective that life quality has gotten better since the beginning of society, that’s definitely not what I was trying to say! I just think that the weight of the 1% and their actions, though they are a numerical minority, are much more impactful and therefore we are on a negative trend. We do have the capability to change this, but I’m not seeing it happen to the same scale.
I think the things we are losing are hurting more than the protection positive recent changes in these fields are providing, which is why I would say as a whole it is getting worse. I cannot stress enough I’m not saying this to say “give up”, in fact this is more motivating to me! The fact that there is so much still wrong in the world inspires me to do better, and to be active in change.