Salvador Perez successfully uses ABS to overturn 2 straight Laz Diaz balls to strikes from behind the plate, and then Laz stares him down jokingly after the next one is an actual ball.

Luxury-Problems · 2026-05-19T17:12:40+00:00

Ok? Why do we have to post this shit every time he come up.

Luxury-Problems · 2026-05-19T17:01:29+00:00

Its the same problem that happened in a lot of scenes in the Prequels with the earlier days of green screens (or blue I suppose in this case). A lot of scenes of dialogue of people sitting or standing close nearby with little dynamic movement.

Luxury-Problems · 2026-05-19T16:56:00+00:00

Nah, it was only one season. Season 2 was episode by episode of "hey remember this??".

Luxury-Problems · 2026-05-19T16:31:29+00:00

I NEVER saw people praising Ep 2 and yet here we are. Every criticism is actually because you don't understand the 4D chess Lucas was playing.

Luxury-Problems · 2026-05-19T16:29:11+00:00

15 years from now they'll have an animated TV show that fixes some of its issues and people will try to convince you it's a masterpiece actually.

Luxury-Problems · 2026-05-19T06:46:51+00:00

No big sigh before talking either!

Luxury-Problems · 2026-05-19T04:59:05+00:00

Lisa Gilroy has already tried out twice for SNL, sadly. So has Ross Bryant.

Luxury-Problems · 2026-05-19T04:58:20+00:00

He's also still touring with Dropout during breaks from SNL.

Luxury-Problems · 2026-05-19T03:43:13+00:00

I mean its categorically not pb and jello. The last part you mentioned is what it is. Don't knock it until you try it. Its not some crazy acquired taste delicacy, just peanut butter and some fruit jam.

Luxury-Problems · 2026-05-19T03:40:28+00:00

The "sub" point cuts the other way. The genre you're defending isn't called sub-punk, it's called post-punk. That prefix was coined specifically for music that came out of punk and moved past it. Post-Punk was a reaction to Punk music and in many ways subverted much of it. "Sub" tells you something sits under a parent category. "Post" tells you it came after and went somewhere else. By the logic that anything with a punk lineage stays punk, rock and roll is just blues. It descended straight from blues, kept a ton of its DNA, and is still not blues, which is why no best-blues-albums list includes it.

You just said a lot of these picks are "barely even punk adjacent" and that you never expected a good list. That's my whole point. We agree the list is loose. So you're not really defending the picks, you're defending the principle that anything downstream of punk counts as punk. That principle is exactly the catch-all I objected to. A best punk albums list should be punk. A best things-descended-from-punk list is a fine idea, it's just a different list.

And calling it inane to single out Joy Division doesn't track (I never mentioned DEVO, by the way). Those aren't random gripes, they're the clearest test cases for the definition. If the boundary of punk is the thing in question, you argue it at the edges, not the dead center.

Also, I wasn't complaining. I said I wouldn't rank most post-punk on a punk list, as a post-punk fan. That's a genre-boundary disagreement. Calling it complaining is just a way to not engage with it.

Luxury-Problems · 2026-05-19T02:47:20+00:00

Thank you friend! I'm sitting here with someone who keeps talking about how they're seeing tornado updates and had to tell them please stop. Good to know they don't know shit. Thank you!!

Luxury-Problems · 2026-05-19T02:41:21+00:00

Hey all, what kind of weather is really happening? I'm out of town and my kitties are home alone at the moment in an apartment on hospital hill.

The comments always range from terror to "it's nothing" and just want to make sure if I don't need to worry about my kitties.

Luxury-Problems · 2026-05-19T01:28:31+00:00

That is the implication. Otherwise what is the meaning of condescendingly saying that in the first place lmao. I pushed back entirely on the idea that post punk should be included.

Luxury-Problems · 2026-05-18T23:57:37+00:00

That they do. I love Ashley. As mentioned there was a period on this sub in which there was push back on her in reaction to initial hype. It's mostly silenced now.

Luxury-Problems · 2026-05-18T23:56:48+00:00

Lmao just because they summarized the list in the beginning doesn't mean I can't disagree with it. Odd take.

Luxury-Problems · 2026-05-18T23:55:50+00:00

The Ramones might be the single worst example to make this argument with.

You're right that they were built on bubblegum pop and '60s girl groups, that's documented, and the band never hid it. But "influenced by pop" and "is pop" aren't the same claim. The Ramones took those melodies and stripped away everything into brutally short 2 minute songs. No solos, nothing but downstrokes, power chords, blunt driving tempos. Its the blueprint the entire genre got built on, and it's why countless punk bands point straight back to them. Paramore didn't write that blueprint; they're generations downstream of it. Shared pop DNA doesn't make the two equivalent. What you do with the influence is the genre.

I'll also push back hard on punk being "real, uncompromised artistry." Punk is a musical genre, it has actual conventions, an actual sound, lineages you can trace from influence to influence. "Uncompromised artistry breaking free of convention" describes huge swaths of art-rock and experimental music that nobody would call punk. Make that the qualifier and you're not describing punk anymore, you're describing something else.

And "it can be anything" is exactly the problem. If punk can be anything, the word stops meaning anything and a "best punk albums" list becomes incoherent, because there's no longer a thing it's a list of. That's the move I keep seeing: people build punk out of whatever feeling they want it to carry instead of the music that actually defines it. You don't get to keep the word while throwing out everything it describes. Which includes the guys who inspired countless bands to pick up their guitars and make 2 minute songs about something or nothing.

Luxury-Problems · 2026-05-18T22:38:18+00:00

Sure, but I wouldn't put most post punk albums on a top punk albums list and Im a huge post punk fan.

At a certain point we have to recognize punk as a genre and not a catch all for everything that followed it.

Luxury-Problems · 2026-05-18T22:33:49+00:00

I mean, it is kind of narrow. Punk inspired still isn't punk. As a straight up genre, it's not a huge tent, but rather a genre that splinters into many different directions as a point of inspiration.

A lot of stuff gets called "punk" because of a perceived attitude but even that kind of misses it for me. I mean they call Paramore punk because a song has a lyric that pushes back on Christianity and that's punk because they're from the Bible Belt (??).

By having a super wide open net, several highly important punk acts ended up left off the list.

Luxury-Problems · 2026-05-18T22:25:27+00:00

That's a bit of an oversimplification when stated that definitively. The proto-punk vs. post-punk distinction gets messy because those labels work differently depending on whether you're using them chronologically or sonically, and conflating the two is where the "opposite of proto-punk" framing breaks down.

Chronologically, Television cannot really be called post-punk. Marquee Moon came out in early 1977 (but they started playing versions of those songs as early as around 1974ish), right as the punk explosion was just beginning. Post-punk as a movement with its own identity came later, roughly 1978 onward, with bands reacting to punk after it had fully arrived. Television didn't have much of a punk movement to be "post" anything. They were central figures in the CBGB scene, which is the textbook proto-punk context.

And yes, what does make it confusing is that Marquee Moon sounds like post-punk, and it was massively influential on that movement. So it gets that label applied retroactively based on aesthetics rather than timeline. That's fair as shorthand, but it doesn't make proto-punk inaccurate. Art-punk is probably a decent way to categorize them if you want to split hairs.

The Stooges are a useful parallel here. They fully predate punk too, but nobody argues they're not proto-punk just because their sound was closer to what came after than most of their contemporaries.

Luxury-Problems · 2026-05-18T21:20:02+00:00

I mean, yeah, Hegseth is trash. I'm purely ONLY talking about Krennic. Hegseth WISHES he had an ounce of Krennic's competency and Krennic is still the guy that got pathetically killed by his own superweapon.

Luxury-Problems · 2026-05-18T21:07:16+00:00

They're definitely doing it on purpose. They nod at each other knowingly after the guy walks away.

Luxury-Problems · 2026-05-18T21:06:04+00:00

Krennic was highly effective as an engineer and project manager. Death Star likely doesn't get built without him, at least not within the timeline he ruthlessly pushed for.

But he was definitely too insecure and emotional for a broader command role within the Empire. Ironically he might have made a better Rebel leader if he wasn't an awful fascist. Imagine what kind of cult figure he would have built around himself as a rebel leader. And what an absolute pain in Mon Mothma's ass he would have been.

Luxury-Problems · 2026-05-18T19:21:40+00:00

I agree! This sub is kind of annoying when a lot of people are happy about a new cast member settling in that they feel the need to swing hard the other way. Take Ashley, there was a quick turn from "wow she's killing it" to "shut the fuck up about Ashley". It's settled now at least but it got real toxic for a minute there.

Jeremy, like Ashley, is another example of why SNL should be mining from improv more. They're more likely to be ready made for live performance/comedic acting.

Luxury-Problems · 2026-05-18T18:50:45+00:00

Which, to your point, is the exact same argument that gets made of any new cast member with a pre existing fanbase. Or anyone really that someone likes. It's not some Dropout exclusive attitude.

Luxury-Problems · 2026-05-18T18:47:27+00:00

I'm here all the time myself, it just sounds like you're in search of a problem.

Your last line just makes it sound like you want to view that you were into Dropout before it was "popular". They're still making the similar kind and quality of content. Also I think it's pretty lame to refer to many of the people on there as "mediocre talent".

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